Pat Chambers isn't going anywhere

[Harbaughsleepovers]

That Pat Chambers was asked if he feels he's on the hot seat to me had to be one of the dumbest questions this year in sports. Of course another typical media overreaction to a loss, cause they haven't done that a zillion trillion bazillion times only to be proven laughably wrong.

We are talking about Penn State Basketball. We are talking about PENN STATE BASKETBALL. Do people understand what that means and why it's absolutely laughable to think Pat Chambers is going anywhere?

Years, decades, a CENTURY of LOSING. We hang banners for finishing in 5th place in the NIT because we have nothing else to hang. We hang curtains to block out empty seats and have for how long? We are a million games under .500 since joining the Big Ten and the previous 3 coaches WERE ALL PART OF THE SAME COACHING TREE!!!!!!!!! At what other school would that happen? Up until a few years ago you were more likely to see someone from the planet Jupiter on Penn State's roster than someone from the city of Philadelphia.

This is one of the most most unique and incredibly difficult challenges in ALL OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS.

When it's taken Penn State's entire basketball history to finally bring in players like Carr, Stevens, Reaves and Watkins, 3 freshmen and a sophomore, NOW!?? NOW!?!!? NOW!??! is when we are going to fire the basketball coach because they have a .500 record in February? Do some of you seriously have a brain damage? Oh sorry, not fire, but we must give him the "hot seat" designation because that is imperative in the completely retarded sports world of today.

Sandy Barbour has like ZERO incentive to make a coaching change. Like seriously, ZERO.

There is no shortcut to changing the fortunes of Penn State basketball. Penn State basketball has to be grown organically.

Firing the coaching and starting over will result in mass transfers, the next coach would be left with nothing.

Firing the coach will not allow Sandy to raise ticket prices.

Firing the coach will not generate or save 2000 season ticket holders.

Firing Pat Chambers from a percentages standpoint has nothing but SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT downside and if you can't understand that then you don't have the luxury of spending time on message boards, you need to educate yourself. Penn State aint going out and spending a ton of money on the next coach and any coach worth a ton of money aint coming to Penn State right now.

I'm not going to sit here and say I know for 100% certainty that Pat Chambers will absolutely get Penn State to the upper echelon of the Big Ten. I will say this however, if you care at all about Penn State basketball, you will do everything possible to help him succeed, because I think the next coach would have a very difficult time building any momentum here.

Penn State does not beat Ohio State in football this year without the fans who were there that night that made playing offense almost impossible for Ohio State. The fans were a huge difference and that win that night has truly truly changed the trajectory of this program.

Penn State has its loyal basketball base that gets to the games and sits in the sideline areas, but relative to where it should or needs to be to compete at the Big Ten level, Penn State's fans and alumni haven't come close to giving the program the boost it desperately needs. You can give me all the excuses you want, I know many are valid, but it is what it is, the support stinks.

 

[Alphabets]

Move the games back to Rec Hall.

 

[Lion8286]

That Pat Chambers was asked if he feels he's on the hot seat to me had to be one of the dumbest questions this year in sports. Of course another typical media overreaction to a loss, cause they haven't done that a zillion trillion bazillion times only to be proven laughably wrong.

We are talking about Penn State Basketball. We are talking about PENN STATE BASKETBALL. Do people understand what that means and why it's absolutely laughable to think Pat Chambers is going anywhere?

Years, decades, a CENTURY of LOSING. We hang banners for finishing in 5th place in the NIT because we have nothing else to hang. We hang curtains to block out empty seats and have for how long? We are a million games under .500 since joining the Big Ten and the previous 3 coaches WERE ALL PART OF THE SAME COACHING TREE!!!!!!!!! At what other school would that happen? Up until a few years ago you were more likely to see someone from the planet Jupiter on Penn State's roster than someone from the city of Philadelphia.

This is one of the most most unique and incredibly difficult challenges in ALL OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS.

When it's taken Penn State's entire basketball history to finally bring in players like Carr, Stevens, Reaves and Watkins, 3 freshmen and a sophomore, NOW!?? NOW!?!!? NOW!??! is when we are going to fire the basketball coach because they have a .500 record in February? Do some of you seriously have a brain damage? Oh sorry, not fire, but we must give him the "hot seat" designation because that is imperative in the completely retarded sports world of today.

Sandy Barbour has like ZERO incentive to make a coaching change. Like seriously, ZERO.

There is no shortcut to changing the fortunes of Penn State basketball. Penn State basketball has to be grown organically.

Firing the coaching and starting over will result in mass transfers, the next coach would be left with nothing.

Firing the coach will not allow Sandy to raise ticket prices.

Firing the coach will not generate or save 2000 season ticket holders.

Firing Pat Chambers from a percentages standpoint has nothing but SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT downside and if you can't understand that then you don't have the luxury of spending time on message boards, you need to educate yourself. Penn State aint going out and spending a ton of money on the next coach and any coach worth a ton of money aint coming to Penn State right now.

I'm not going to sit here and say I know for 100% certainty that Pat Chambers will absolutely get Penn State to the upper echelon of the Big Ten. I will say this however, if you care at all about Penn State basketball, you will do everything possible to help him succeed, because I think the next coach would have a very difficult time building any momentum here.

Penn State does not beat Ohio State in football this year without the fans who were there that night that made playing offense almost impossible for Ohio State. The fans were a huge difference and that win that night has truly truly changed the trajectory of this program.

Penn State has its loyal basketball base that gets to the games and sits in the sideline areas, but relative to where it should or needs to be to compete at the Big Ten level, Penn State's fans and alumni haven't come close to giving the program the boost it desperately needs. You can give me all the excuses you want, I know many are valid, but it is what it is, the support stinks.

Well, that was a whole lot of nothing.

 

[auxgym]

That Pat Chambers was asked if he feels he's on the hot seat to me had to be one of the dumbest questions this year in sports. Of course another typical media overreaction to a loss, cause they haven't done that a zillion trillion bazillion times only to be proven laughably wrong.

We are talking about Penn State Basketball. We are talking about PENN STATE BASKETBALL. Do people understand what that means and why it's absolutely laughable to think Pat Chambers is going anywhere?

Years, decades, a CENTURY of LOSING. We hang banners for finishing in 5th place in the NIT because we have nothing else to hang. We hang curtains to block out empty seats and have for how long? We are a million games under .500 since joining the Big Ten and the previous 3 coaches WERE ALL PART OF THE SAME COACHING TREE!!!!!!!!! At what other school would that happen? Up until a few years ago you were more likely to see someone from the planet Jupiter on Penn State's roster than someone from the city of Philadelphia.

This is one of the most most unique and incredibly difficult challenges in ALL OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS.

When it's taken Penn State's entire basketball history to finally bring in players like Carr, Stevens, Reaves and Watkins, 3 freshmen and a sophomore, NOW!?? NOW!?!!? NOW!??! is when we are going to fire the basketball coach because they have a .500 record in February? Do some of you seriously have a brain damage? Oh sorry, not fire, but we must give him the "hot seat" designation because that is imperative in the completely retarded sports world of today.

Sandy Barbour has like ZERO incentive to make a coaching change. Like seriously, ZERO.

There is no shortcut to changing the fortunes of Penn State basketball. Penn State basketball has to be grown organically.

Firing the coaching and starting over will result in mass transfers, the next coach would be left with nothing.

Firing the coach will not allow Sandy to raise ticket prices.

Firing the coach will not generate or save 2000 season ticket holders.

Firing Pat Chambers from a percentages standpoint has nothing but SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT downside and if you can't understand that then you don't have the luxury of spending time on message boards, you need to educate yourself. Penn State aint going out and spending a ton of money on the next coach and any coach worth a ton of money aint coming to Penn State right now.

I'm not going to sit here and say I know for 100% certainty that Pat Chambers will absolutely get Penn State to the upper echelon of the Big Ten. I will say this however, if you care at all about Penn State basketball, you will do everything possible to help him succeed, because I think the next coach would have a very difficult time building any momentum here.

Penn State does not beat Ohio State in football this year without the fans who were there that night that made playing offense almost impossible for Ohio State. The fans were a huge difference and that win that night has truly truly changed the trajectory of this program.

Penn State has its loyal basketball base that gets to the games and sits in the sideline areas, but relative to where it should or needs to be to compete at the Big Ten level, Penn State's fans and alumni haven't come close to giving the program the boost it desperately needs. You can give me all the excuses you want, I know many are valid, but it is what it is, the support stinks.

Trust me......many, many, many of us know that PC will not be fired......and so we will continue to watch pick up basketball game plans play out before our eyes.

 

[bjf1991]

That Pat Chambers was asked if he feels he's on the hot seat to me had to be one of the dumbest questions this year in sports. Of course another typical media overreaction to a loss, cause they haven't done that a zillion trillion bazillion times only to be proven laughably wrong.

We are talking about Penn State Basketball. We are talking about PENN STATE BASKETBALL. Do people understand what that means and why it's absolutely laughable to think Pat Chambers is going anywhere?

Years, decades, a CENTURY of LOSING. We hang banners for finishing in 5th place in the NIT because we have nothing else to hang. We hang curtains to block out empty seats and have for how long? We are a million games under .500 since joining the Big Ten and the previous 3 coaches WERE ALL PART OF THE SAME COACHING TREE!!!!!!!!! At what other school would that happen? Up until a few years ago you were more likely to see someone from the planet Jupiter on Penn State's roster than someone from the city of Philadelphia.

This is one of the most most unique and incredibly difficult challenges in ALL OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS.

When it's taken Penn State's entire basketball history to finally bring in players like Carr, Stevens, Reaves and Watkins, 3 freshmen and a sophomore, NOW!?? NOW!?!!? NOW!??! is when we are going to fire the basketball coach because they have a .500 record in February? Do some of you seriously have a brain damage? Oh sorry, not fire, but we must give him the "hot seat" designation because that is imperative in the completely retarded sports world of today.

Sandy Barbour has like ZERO incentive to make a coaching change. Like seriously, ZERO.

There is no shortcut to changing the fortunes of Penn State basketball. Penn State basketball has to be grown organically.

Firing the coaching and starting over will result in mass transfers, the next coach would be left with nothing.

Firing the coach will not allow Sandy to raise ticket prices.

Firing the coach will not generate or save 2000 season ticket holders.

Firing Pat Chambers from a percentages standpoint has nothing but SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT downside and if you can't understand that then you don't have the luxury of spending time on message boards, you need to educate yourself. Penn State aint going out and spending a ton of money on the next coach and any coach worth a ton of money aint coming to Penn State right now.

I'm not going to sit here and say I know for 100% certainty that Pat Chambers will absolutely get Penn State to the upper echelon of the Big Ten. I will say this however, if you care at all about Penn State basketball, you will do everything possible to help him succeed, because I think the next coach would have a very difficult time building any momentum here.

Penn State does not beat Ohio State in football this year without the fans who were there that night that made playing offense almost impossible for Ohio State. The fans were a huge difference and that win that night has truly truly changed the trajectory of this program.

Penn State has its loyal basketball base that gets to the games and sits in the sideline areas, but relative to where it should or needs to be to compete at the Big Ten level, Penn State's fans and alumni haven't come close to giving the program the boost it desperately needs. You can give me all the excuses you want, I know many are valid, but it is what it is, the support stinks.

You took an awful lot of words to tell folks something they already know

Just sayin'.

 

[MtNittany]

Maybe they should make him hire someone as an assistant who can help w/ a little better x-ing and o-ing. Or would that be an affront to Pat and his reputation/record?

 

[Harbaughsleepovers]

Trust me......many, many, many of us know that PC will not be fired......and so we will continue to watch pick up basketball game plans play out before our eyes.

I heard the same complaints about Jay Wright's offense his first 3 years at Villanova and then it clicked. Calipari runs the same playground basketball.

You are one of a bazillion people who make these comments and if you had to get on a whiteboard with our basketball coaches you would embarrass yourself.

 

[83wuzme]

By the end of the next three weeks we should know if Pat has lost this team. Unfortunately, if it proves to be the case, Pat may be back, but probably not all of the players.

 

[21Guns]

I heard the same complaints about Jay Wright's offense his first 3 years at Villanova and then it clicked. Calipari runs the same playground basketball.

You are one of a bazillion people who make these comments and if you had to get on a whiteboard with our basketball coaches you would embarrass yourself.

You mean like that play they drew up with 6 seconds left against Rutgers that had Tony Carr going 1 on 4 against the Rutgers defense? How did that one turn out Naismith?

 

[MtNittany]

By the end of the next three weeks we should know if Pat has lost this team. Unfortunately, if it proves to be the case, Pat may be back, but probably not all of the players.

I would think the opposite. My perception (from way afar) is that the only way we would lose any of those guys is if Pat was gone - which may actually be part of the problem.

 

[interrobang]

Maybe they should make him hire someone as an assistant who can help w/ a little better x-ing and o-ing. Or would that be an affront to Pat and his reputation/record?

I think this is exactly what they need.

 

[21Guns]

I think this is exactly what they need.

Pat HAS hired assistants. They need to HIRE a search committee to HIRE the assistants for him. And clean house, they all go.

 

[21Guns]

Hire Parkhill, Dunn, and DeChellis as assitants: Make every apologist rejoice with glee!

 

[Norm Petersin]

How long did we give DaChelis? Years of mediocrity.

 

[21Guns]

How long did we give DaChelis? Years of mediocrity.

Didn't fire him. He left. We gave him MORE than 8 years, technically. In fact, PSU has never fired a men's basketball coach. Never.

How's that been working out for them?

 

[Harbaughsleepovers]

You mean like that play they drew up with 6 seconds left against Rutgers that had Tony Carr going 1 on 4 against the Rutgers defense? How did that one turn out Naismith?

Cause Pat has never drawn up a play that got a good shot late? Never. Didn't Reaves get a layup attempt on Indiana just last weeks with 5 seconds left under our own basket? Did Pat miss the layup?

Indiana spares no expense on its basketball program and how many times have we seen Tom Crean's teams not be able to get the ball in bounds against pressure? How many times against Penn State has this happened?

Tom Crean is one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball. He's been to a Final 4. His teams can't break the press.

Last year people at UCLA literally thought Steve Alford was the worse coach in all of college basketball. Steve Alford would never take the Penn State job.

When did the acceptable standard for a coach at Penn State become the coach that doesn't exist?

BTW: To suggest Penn State should fire all of its assistants and bring in new assistants Pat Chambers has zero relationship with is the kind of brilliance you generally hear from Philadelphia Eagles fans on local sports radio who live in Section 8 housing.

 

[MtNittany]

Cause Pat has never drawn up a play that got a good shot late? Never. Didn't Reaves get a layup attempt on Indiana just last weeks with 5 seconds left under our own basket? Did Pat miss the layup?

Indiana spares no expense on its basketball program and how many times have we seen Tom Crean's teams not be able to get the ball in bounds against pressure? How many times against Penn State has this happened?

Tom Crean is one of the highest paid coaches in college basketball. He's been to a Final 4. His teams can't break the press.

Last year people at UCLA literally thought Steve Alford was the worse coach in all of college basketball. Steve Alford would never take the Penn State job.

When did the acceptable standard for a coach at Penn State become the coach that doesn't exist?

BTW: To suggest Penn State should fire all of its assistants and bring in new assistants Pat Chambers has zero relationship with is the kind of brilliance you generally hear from Philadelphia Eagles fans on local sports radio who live in Section 8 housing.

Just thinking one. Not replacing everyone. One guy that can get guys on the same page when it matters. It doesn't seem we have that now. Not sure what you're watching.

 

[Harbaughsleepovers]

Pat HAS hired assistants. They need to HIRE a search committee to HIRE the assistants for him. And clean house, they all go.

Congrats, you are officially on ignore. You've joined another guy who makes my eyes bleed PennStateNate.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Hire Parkhill, Dunn, and DeChellis as assitants: Make every apologist rejoice with glee!

The prior coaches at least stumbled their way into the Big Dance once in a while. Chambers hasn't sniffed the NIT. I'm not saying Pat needs to go but what he has done over 7 years would have gotten him fired at any other program in a major conference. DeChellis won an NIT and made an NCAA. Dunn made two NCAA (including a S16) and an NIT. Parkhill made four NITs and an NCAA. The bar is obviously low but we're making it even lower at this point.

Chambers can recruit (if we believe the rankings) but when do we see even minimal results? When?

Losing at home to this Rutgers team--that's not acceptable in year 7. If they finish in the bottom 4 of the conference this year is that good enough for just one more year or 3 more years?

 

[21Guns]

Folks, if you disagree with Harbaughlovesleepovers, you live in Section 8 Housing in Philly. Just wanted to bring you up to speed on that.

 

[AWS1022]

That Pat Chambers was asked if he feels he's on the hot seat to me had to be one of the dumbest questions this year in sports. Of course another typical media overreaction to a loss, cause they haven't done that a zillion trillion bazillion times only to be proven laughably wrong.

We are talking about Penn State Basketball. We are talking about PENN STATE BASKETBALL. Do people understand what that means and why it's absolutely laughable to think Pat Chambers is going anywhere?

Years, decades, a CENTURY of LOSING. We hang banners for finishing in 5th place in the NIT because we have nothing else to hang. We hang curtains to block out empty seats and have for how long? We are a million games under .500 since joining the Big Ten and the previous 3 coaches WERE ALL PART OF THE SAME COACHING TREE!!!!!!!!! At what other school would that happen? Up until a few years ago you were more likely to see someone from the planet Jupiter on Penn State's roster than someone from the city of Philadelphia.

This is one of the most most unique and incredibly difficult challenges in ALL OF COLLEGE ATHLETICS.

When it's taken Penn State's entire basketball history to finally bring in players like Carr, Stevens, Reaves and Watkins, 3 freshmen and a sophomore, NOW!?? NOW!?!!? NOW!??! is when we are going to fire the basketball coach because they have a .500 record in February? Do some of you seriously have a brain damage? Oh sorry, not fire, but we must give him the "hot seat" designation because that is imperative in the completely retarded sports world of today.

Sandy Barbour has like ZERO incentive to make a coaching change. Like seriously, ZERO.

There is no shortcut to changing the fortunes of Penn State basketball. Penn State basketball has to be grown organically.

Firing the coaching and starting over will result in mass transfers, the next coach would be left with nothing.

Firing the coach will not allow Sandy to raise ticket prices.

Firing the coach will not generate or save 2000 season ticket holders.

Firing Pat Chambers from a percentages standpoint has nothing but SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANT downside and if you can't understand that then you don't have the luxury of spending time on message boards, you need to educate yourself. Penn State aint going out and spending a ton of money on the next coach and any coach worth a ton of money aint coming to Penn State right now.

I'm not going to sit here and say I know for 100% certainty that Pat Chambers will absolutely get Penn State to the upper echelon of the Big Ten. I will say this however, if you care at all about Penn State basketball, you will do everything possible to help him succeed, because I think the next coach would have a very difficult time building any momentum here.

Penn State does not beat Ohio State in football this year without the fans who were there that night that made playing offense almost impossible for Ohio State. The fans were a huge difference and that win that night has truly truly changed the trajectory of this program.

Penn State has its loyal basketball base that gets to the games and sits in the sideline areas, but relative to where it should or needs to be to compete at the Big Ten level, Penn State's fans and alumni haven't come close to giving the program the boost it desperately needs. You can give me all the excuses you want, I know many are valid, but it is what it is, the support stinks.

At some point he has to show results on the floor. If that doesn't happen, all the rest really doesn't mean sh!t.

 

[MtNittany]

Folks, if you disagree with Harbaughlovesleepovers, you live in Section 8 Housing in Philly. Just wanted to bring you up to speed on that.

So...can I get a snap card?

 

[21Guns]

I must admit, it's a rather creative ad hominem attack! Very seldom used, the ole "If you disagree with me, you live in poverty" attack. Points for creativity.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

At some point he has to show results on the floor. If that doesn't happen, all the rest really doesn't mean sh!t.

I still want to know how many years does he get to make that happen. We're rapidly approaching a decade without real improvement. And by real improvement I mean wins & losses not we believe the talent is better.

 

[MtNittany]

sleepsover was in Phoenix this past weekend apparently...

 

[auxgym]

I would think the opposite. My perception (from way afar) is that the only way we would lose any of those guys is if Pat was gone - which may actually be part of the problem.

Well said.

 

[Harbaughsleepovers]

The prior coaches at least stumbled their way into the Big Dance once in a while. Chambers hasn't sniffed the NIT. I'm not saying Pat needs to go but what he has done over 7 years would have gotten him fired at any other program in a major conference. DeChellis won an NIT and made an NCAA. Dunn made two NCAA (including a S16) and an NIT. Parkhill made four NITs and an NCAA. The bar is obviously low but we're making it even lower at this point.

Chambers can recruit (if we believe the rankings) but when do we see even minimal results? When?

Losing at home to this Rutgers team--that's not acceptable in year 7. If they finish in the bottom 4 of the conference this year is that good enough for just one more year or 3 more years?

They're freshmen. They're freshmen? What freshmen team ever carried Penn State to a NCAA Tournament? Which one?

The last 2 NCAA Tournament teams I remember were senior dominated and the team finished in dead last place the following year.

Dunn and Ed never established Penn State anywhere in recruiting and by the time their teams had success it was the last second and too late to capitalize off the success in recruiting.

If these guys can get over the hump in the next couple years with the foundation that has been laid in recruiting, the ability to sustain success is there.

You want to blow this up when these guys are freshmen to start ALL OVER again with some coach who is currently at Stony Brook? Why would anyone ever do that?

BTW: The NIT gives bids to 1 bid leagues whose regular season champ doesn't win the conference tournament. It's way harder to make the NIT now than it was during the Dunn and Ed era's. Those teams steal bids.

Pat Chambers just played a non conference schedule that we would rarely if ever play in the past. If Pat had loaded up on all garbage to inflate his record before conference play we could easily have 15 or 16 wins right now.

I'm sorry, I have yet to hear one compelling argument to blow up the foundation Chambers is trying to build that also came with a realistic solution. How long he's already been here when Dechellis left the cupboard almost completely bare is literally the worse argument.

You guys offer no solutions. It takes no ability to point to the record and say make a change.

 

[MtNittany]

You're humping our non-conference schedule? Srsly? Doesn't much matter when you lose to rutgores at home, does it?

 

[78SweetRevenge]

They're freshmen. They're freshmen? What freshmen team ever carried Penn State to a NCAA Tournament? Which one?

The last 2 NCAA Tournament teams I remember were senior dominated and the team finished in dead last place the following year.

Dunn and Ed never established Penn State anywhere in recruiting and by the time their teams had success it was the last second and too late to capitalize off the success in recruiting.

If these guys can get over the hump in the next couple years with the foundation that has been laid in recruiting, the ability to sustain success is there.

You want to blow this up when these guys are freshmen to start ALL OVER again with some coach who is currently at Stony Brook? Why would anyone ever do that?

BTW: The NIT gives bids to 1 bid leagues whose regular season champ doesn't win the conference tournament. It's way harder to make the NIT now than it was during the Dunn and Ed era's. Those teams steal bids.

Pat Chambers just played a non conference schedule that we would rarely if ever play in the past. If Pat had loaded up on all garbage to inflate his record before conference play we could easily have 15 or 16 wins right now.

I'm sorry, I have yet to hear one compelling argument to blow up the foundation Chambers is trying to build that also came with a realistic solution. How long he's already been here when Dechellis left the cupboard almost completely bare is literally the worse argument.

You guys offer no solutions. It takes no ability to point to the record and say make a change.

Freshman can make an immediate impact in college basketball. That's not happening unfortunately. Next year, you'll say "They're sophomore" then, if they still can't wins games you'll focus on the incoming class saying "They're freshman".

Why did it take 7 years to get decent freshmen? Next year is year 8. What is your expectation? Another season in the bottom half of the Big Ten and he has to go. This isn't the A-10...win games or get the hell out.

 

[Harbaughsleepovers]

You're humping our non-conference schedule? Srsly? Doesn't much matter when you lose to rutgores at home, does it?

You're on ignore now too. Can't do it.

 

[auxgym]

They're freshmen. They're freshmen? What freshmen team ever carried Penn State to a NCAA Tournament? Which one?

The last 2 NCAA Tournament teams I remember were senior dominated and the team finished in dead last place the following year.

Dunn and Ed never established Penn State anywhere in recruiting and by the time their teams had success it was the last second and too late to capitalize off the success in recruiting.

If these guys can get over the hump in the next couple years with the foundation that has been laid in recruiting, the ability to sustain success is there.

You want to blow this up when these guys are freshmen to start ALL OVER again with some coach who is currently at Stony Brook? Why would anyone ever do that?

BTW: The NIT gives bids to 1 bid leagues whose regular season champ doesn't win the conference tournament. It's way harder to make the NIT now than it was during the Dunn and Ed era's. Those teams steal bids.

Pat Chambers just played a non conference schedule that we would rarely if ever play in the past. If Pat had loaded up on all garbage to inflate his record before conference play we could easily have 15 or 16 wins right now.

I'm sorry, I have yet to hear one compelling argument to blow up the foundation Chambers is trying to build that also came with a realistic solution. How long he's already been here when Dechellis left the cupboard almost completely bare is literally the worse argument.

You guys offer no solutions. It takes no ability to point to the record and say make a change.

While I often point out Pat's record.......the problem I have is that PSU is poor at running sets and doesn't work on developing an inside game.......which I believe is on the coaching staff.

 

[Harbaughsleepovers]

Freshman can make an immediate impact in college basketball. That's not happening unfortunately. Next year, you'll say "They're sophomore" then, if they still can't wins games you'll focus on the incoming class saying "They're freshman".

Why did it take 7 years to get decent freshmen? Next year is year 8. What is your expectation? Another season in the bottom half of the Big Ten and he has to go. This isn't the A-10...win games or get the hell out.

Our freshmen aren't having an impact? Are you serious????????????????

You're on ignore.

 

[nitlion93]

Chambers should get at least one more year to let the young guys mature. After that, he should be reassesed on the following:
1. The key players need to stay committed.
2. The team needs to show drastic improvement next year.
3. The recruiting class better show some highly skilled players at positions of need (i.e. no regression in incoming talent)

I think that by next year, if all of the following are not satisfied, then next year may be his last.

 

[78SweetRevenge]

Our freshmen aren't having an impact? Are you serious????????????????

You're on ignore.

Impacting wins & losses. You put everyone on ignore that is smarter than you. You should just put the whole board on ignore at this point

 

[cvilleelkscoach]

Didn't fire him. He left. We gave him MORE than 8 years, technically. In fact, PSU has never fired a men's basketball coach. Never.

How's that been working out for them?

Actually, you're wrong Dick Harter was fired.

 

[Harbaughsleepovers]

Time for bed.

There is zero catalyst for change. Zero. Sandy Barbour isn't making a change if all the noise she is hearing about the program is from anonymous message board posters who have no ability to offer an alternative solution.

If you fire Pat Chambers when this young core is in their freshmen and sophomore years Penn State will get laughed out of Philadelphia and the DMV if they try recruiting there with a new staff. Penn State would have completely destroyed the trust of the people that need to trust you. These kids didn't have to take a chance on Penn State and then you are going to fire their coach? You might as well take a crap on their head. It would be the same thing.

Some of you are so lost. There are so many things that you aren't taking into consideration.

Firing Pat Chambers after Tony and Lamar's freshmen year would be the equivalent of committing program suicide.

We'd be back to recruiting Montana.

 

[MtNittany]

You're on ignore now too. Can't do it.

Guy w/ 60 posts telling me I'm on ignore. I'll bounce back from this. Somehow.

 

[84Lion]

The prior coaches at least stumbled their way into the Big Dance once in a while. Chambers hasn't sniffed the NIT. I'm not saying Pat needs to go but what he has done over 7 years would have gotten him fired at any other program in a major conference. DeChellis won an NIT and made an NCAA. Dunn made two NCAA (including a S16) and an NIT. Parkhill made four NITs and an NCAA. The bar is obviously low but we're making it even lower at this point.

This. Folks pushing "give Pat a chance" talk about how poor Penn State basketball has been (arguably never great), historically, but seem to forget that prior coaches, for all their faults, at least got to the postseason. Chambers has taken one PSU team to the CBI in six years...and that's it.

I suppose PSU might make the CBI again this year...if the admins are willing to pay to play in it.

 

[21Guns]

Yep, another CBI trip this year, hopefully.

 

[Nittany1997]

The recruits he has right now are as good as they have had in years.