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Why isn't anyone talking about the impact of the turf with these injuries. The shoes just grip and don't slide, therefore the weight and force of these athletes resulted in damage or injuries to the most impacted or stressed body part. You get the gist of my assumption. But players from both teams suffered turf caused ligament/ tendon, muscle damage during the game. It's great for lighter, quicker athletes but the larger framed ones. When the foot sticks the body doesn't always follow.
 
Why isn't anyone talking about the impact of the turf with these injuries. The shoes just grip and don't slide, therefore the weight and force of these athletes resulted in damage or injuries to the most impacted or stressed body part. You get the gist of my assumption. But players from both teams suffered turf caused ligament/ tendon, muscle damage during the game. It's great for lighter, quicker athletes but the larger framed ones. When the foot sticks the body doesn't always follow.
Turf, Shoes? Shoes, Turf? Combination of the two?
 
Why isn't anyone talking about the impact of the turf with these injuries. The shoes just grip and don't slide, therefore the weight and force of these athletes resulted in damage or injuries to the most impacted or stressed body part. You get the gist of my assumption. But players from both teams suffered turf caused ligament/ tendon, muscle damage during the game. It's great for lighter, quicker athletes but the larger framed ones. When the foot sticks the body doesn't always follow.
There's a movement now in the NFL to prevent any new stadiums from using turf
 
False.

1. New turf
2. Grass
3. Astroturf
That's simply wrong. Astroturf hasn't been a thing for a long time. Only the "new turf" is relevant in this convo ... even public high schools that have turf have had the newer version for decades. And there's a huge outcry about how dangerous it is.


An NFLPA survey revealed that 92% of players prefer to play on high-quality grass, 6% percent were indifferent between grass and synthetic turf, and most of the 2% who prefer synthetic turf are kickers. "Grass fields have a lower injury rate," Howell said.
Turf fields also appeared to significantly increase the likelihood of non-contact injuries. About 20% more non-contact injuries occurred per play on a turf surface than a grass surface.

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Administrators/staff prefer turf because it requires very little upkeep (and allows games to be played in inclement conditions) ... players almost universally prefer grass
 
Wrong...Players across the landscape in both the NCAA and NFL level all prefer grass.


No. You are wrong. That is a misconception from people over the age of 60 who never saw new turf.

The new turf is soft, very uniform and a great surface.

If a 340 lb lineman falls on top of you it wasn't the turn that caused an injury.
 
That's simply wrong. Astroturf hasn't been a thing for a long time. Only the "new turf" is relevant in this convo ... even public high schools that have turf have had the newer version for decades. And there's a huge outcry about how dangerous it is.


An NFLPA survey revealed that 92% of players prefer to play on high-quality grass, 6% percent were indifferent between grass and synthetic turf, and most of the 2% who prefer synthetic turf are kickers. "Grass fields have a lower injury rate," Howell said.
Turf fields also appeared to significantly increase the likelihood of non-contact injuries. About 20% more non-contact injuries occurred per play on a turf surface than a grass surface.

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Administrators/staff prefer turf because it requires very little upkeep (and allows games to be played in inclement conditions) ... players almost universally prefer grass
Head of the union is probably getting a kickback from Scotts. . Would that surprise you?
 
No. You are wrong. That is a misconception from people over the age of 60 who never saw new turf.

The new turf is soft, very uniform and a great surface.

If a 340 lb lineman falls on top of you it wasn't the turn that caused an injury.
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NFLPA head says 92% of players prefer playing on grass

Updated Feb. 8, 2024 9:21 a.m. ET
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The San Francisco 49ers' issues with their practice fields at the Super Bowl gave the NFL Players Association an opportunity to highlight players' desire for grass fields across the league.
NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell emphasized the importance of installing grass fields, discussed modifications to the league's gambling policy, dismissed consideration to eliminate the hip-drop tackle, and more in his first state of the union address since moving into the role eight months ago.
"The one issue where there was unanimous commentary was, ‘At the end of the day, I want to play on the highest quality grass surface,'" Howell said Wednesday in a nearly 90-minute news conference inside the Mandalay Bay Convention Center.
An NFLPA survey revealed that 92% of players prefer to play on high-quality grass, 6% percent were indifferent between grass and synthetic turf, and most of the 2% who prefer synthetic turf are kickers.
"Grass fields have a lower injury rate," Howell said. "A difference in what kind of chronic pain they'll be in for the rest of their lives."
Of the 30 stadiums used by the NFL's 32 teams, 15 have artificial turf and 15 have grass or hybrid grass, which is natural turf reinforced with synthetic fibers. The league doesn't have a specific regulation on the type of surfaces teams use and there are various types of each.

The argument for grass is that it's softer and prevents injuries. The NFL has defended the use of artificial turf, pointing to 2021 when the numbers for injuries on both surfaces were close.
"Turf has stayed relatively consistent at an injury rate over the last decade," NFLPA president JC Tretter said. "Grass this year has its highest injury rate over the last decade, but it was still lower than the injury rate on turf. So, the worst performing year on grass is still better than turf this year."
 
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NFLPA head says 92% of players prefer playing on grass

Updated Feb. 8, 2024 9:21 a.m. ET
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The San Francisco 49ers' issues with their practice fields at the Super Bowl gave the NFL Players Association an opportunity to highlight players' desire for grass fields across the league.
NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell emphasized the importance of installing grass fields, discussed modifications to the league's gambling policy, dismissed consideration to eliminate the hip-drop tackle, and more in his first state of the union address since moving into the role eight months ago.
"The one issue where there was unanimous commentary was, ‘At the end of the day, I want to play on the highest quality grass surface,'" Howell said Wednesday in a nearly 90-minute news conference inside the Mandalay Bay Convention Center.
An NFLPA survey revealed that 92% of players prefer to play on high-quality grass, 6% percent were indifferent between grass and synthetic turf, and most of the 2% who prefer synthetic turf are kickers.
"Grass fields have a lower injury rate," Howell said. "A difference in what kind of chronic pain they'll be in for the rest of their lives."
Of the 30 stadiums used by the NFL's 32 teams, 15 have artificial turf and 15 have grass or hybrid grass, which is natural turf reinforced with synthetic fibers. The league doesn't have a specific regulation on the type of surfaces teams use and there are various types of each.

The argument for grass is that it's softer and prevents injuries. The NFL has defended the use of artificial turf, pointing to 2021 when the numbers for injuries on both surfaces were close.
"Turf has stayed relatively consistent at an injury rate over the last decade," NFLPA president JC Tretter said. "Grass this year has its highest injury rate over the last decade, but it was still lower than the injury rate on turf. So, the worst performing year on grass is still better than turf this year."




The NFL contradicts the NFLPA. 15 grass stadiums and 15 turf. According to NFL stats the injury numbers were very close on both surfaces.

The NFL union sponsored poll does not mean much when it represents less than one tenth of one percent of players who actually play on turf. It sure doesn't prove a majority. The union also confirmed that grass had its highest injury rate in a decade.
 
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NFLPA head says 92% of players prefer playing on grass

Updated Feb. 8, 2024 9:21 a.m. ET
share
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The San Francisco 49ers' issues with their practice fields at the Super Bowl gave the NFL Players Association an opportunity to highlight players' desire for grass fields across the league.
NFLPA executive director Lloyd Howell emphasized the importance of installing grass fields, discussed modifications to the league's gambling policy, dismissed consideration to eliminate the hip-drop tackle, and more in his first state of the union address since moving into the role eight months ago.
"The one issue where there was unanimous commentary was, ‘At the end of the day, I want to play on the highest quality grass surface,'" Howell said Wednesday in a nearly 90-minute news conference inside the Mandalay Bay Convention Center.
An NFLPA survey revealed that 92% of players prefer to play on high-quality grass, 6% percent were indifferent between grass and synthetic turf, and most of the 2% who prefer synthetic turf are kickers.
"Grass fields have a lower injury rate," Howell said. "A difference in what kind of chronic pain they'll be in for the rest of their lives."
Of the 30 stadiums used by the NFL's 32 teams, 15 have artificial turf and 15 have grass or hybrid grass, which is natural turf reinforced with synthetic fibers. The league doesn't have a specific regulation on the type of surfaces teams use and there are various types of each.

The argument for grass is that it's softer and prevents injuries. The NFL has defended the use of artificial turf, pointing to 2021 when the numbers for injuries on both surfaces were close.
"Turf has stayed relatively consistent at an injury rate over the last decade," NFLPA president JC Tretter said. "Grass this year has its highest injury rate over the last decade, but it was still lower than the injury rate on turf. So, the worst performing year on grass is still better than turf this year."
yea HS are now dropping the turf ideas and going back to grass as well.
 
The NFL contradicts the NFLPA. 15 grass stadiums and 15 turf. According to NFL stats the injury numbers were very close on both surfaces.

The NFL union sponsored poll does not mean much when it represents less than one tenth of one percent of players who actually play on turf. It sure doesn't prove a majority. The union also confirmed that grass had its highest injury rate in a decade.
Yes, Roger Godell and the NFL owners represent the paradigm of
Honesty and integrity. Or
Does Godell want to provide cover for owners who don’t want to pay to change their surface?-
 
The NFL contradicts the NFLPA. 15 grass stadiums and 15 turf. According to NFL stats the injury numbers were very close on both surfaces.

The NFL union sponsored poll does not mean much when it represents less than one tenth of one percent of players who actually play on turf. It sure doesn't prove a majority. The union also confirmed that grass had its highest injury rate in a decade.

Yikes ... you've gone into full-on crazyville in your efforts to support artificial turf. One would wonder why you're so adamant about this that you'll twist and turn the truth so strenuously that you dive headfirst into conspiracy-ville? Are you a salesman for Turfs 'R Us?

Soccer players want grass, too. I guess it's the evil soccer unions to blame there, too.

This is an epidemic in today's society ... not just limited to this topic ... when confronted with an obvious and inarguable truth, the simple mind cries conspiracy and attacks the purveyor of said truth. And the saddest part is, there are enough mouth-breathers to soak it all in ... as, in their fragile little noggins, they now switch from know-nothing dum dums, to uber-aware conspiracy uncoverers.
 
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