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Penn State vs. Pitt for our season opener every year?

They've already refused 2 for 1 and I think they've refused 3 for 2. They say Pitt is first class just like Penn State. They won't take an uneven series.
Ummmm... you do realize they have a new coach and a new Athletic Director. New players might consider it. If they don't, well, we have to do what we have to do.
 
I have been to numerous games Pitt/PSU games and other than the good natured ribbing I have never seen these fights in the stands or in the Parking lot. That goes for games in Oakland, Heinz field and Beaver Stadium.

I get that most PSU fans do not feel that Pitt is a rival. Yes we have fallen into the land of average football teams, but quite frankly so has Penn State. We were both at one time marquee programs. I just don't think the Alabama's, the FSU or whoever views either of our programs as such right now. That is not to say that we both turn things around. I admit, you guys are off to a great start recruiting with Franklin.

Oh I am quite sure that someone will come on and quote and blast me but for every bad fan there are just as many great fans for both programs. This is a game that should happen every year. At one time it was one of the best rivalries in all of football. I hope we both get back to national prominence and this game takes on a whole new look
Nice post. I am a Penn State fan and I myself see no need in the constant trash talk between fan bases. I wanna see this game because I love the rivalry and I love college football.
 
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I already did, three times above. You continue to stir the pot for something you know the vast majority of Penn Staters could care less about.
You call it stirring the pot and I call it discussing a topic that has been in the news recently. I just would like to have honest conversations with people without it reaching the level of disrespect because there is disagreement on an issue. I also did not start the OP.
 
You're a know-nothing tool who makes claims that effectively imply that Nebraska is still playing Oklahoma annually in their traditional rivalry game - ditto aTm and Texas. A complete moron tool who thinks polishing the knobs of his corrupt taskmasters is an indication of superior "critical decision-making skills"... In short, you're an arrogant-without-cause, hubris-filled, servile puss-bag that doesn't know his @ss from a hole in the ground and wouldn't know what "critical thinking" or "critical decision-making" was even if it walked up and smacked you in your sorry douche face.
And your a foul gutter mouthed reactionary that thinks lawyers should go to trial when defendants acquiesce to the plaintiffs demands. That thinking alone makes you a dangerous man that could never be trusted to make important choices especially where other people's welfare would be involved. Your the worst in all of us, an accuser without proof. A slave to the past with the character of an ingrate. I have gotten you to lose your poise but that is no great fete, your a joke of a man that embarrasses himself every time you post. You can post your gutter mouth tirades all you want but I am not scared of the likes of you, guys like you are a dime a dozen. The world is full of complainers like you who accuse without proof and think that men that they have never met should share their agenda. Your a pariah, a cancer with a poisoned mind that worships at the altar of absolutism.
 
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You found 7 in over 100 teams and Wisconsin has Minnesota while 3 of the other 6 just recently lost their major rival through Conference ties. I won't even get into the back yard brawl because Penn St. vs Pitt was better. So you maybe have 3 that never had a rival.Not a high percentage.

And only 1 team wins the national title, not a high percentage... why even try? Why does PSU have to be like everyone else?

I think somebody explained that the reasons for more games in Pittsburgh were overall travel logistics and press related. That was over 50 years ago also.

And most of Pitt's made up national championships were also over 50 years ago. I'll let go when they do.

What you posted, "travel logistics and press related", were just contributing factors that made it necessary for PSU to agree to play in Pittsburgh. Quite frankly it doesn't even matter what the factors were... The game wouldn't have happened if PSU didn't sacrifice. Pitt simply would have played someone else. Sound familiar?
 
And only 1 team wins the national title, not a high percentage... why even try? Why does PSU have to be like everyone else?



And most of Pitt's made up national championships were also over 50 years ago. I'll let go when they do.

What you posted, "travel logistics and press related", were just contributing factors that made it necessary for PSU to agree to play in Pittsburgh. Quite frankly it doesn't even matter what the factors were... The game wouldn't have happened if PSU didn't sacrifice. Pitt simply would have played someone else. Sound familiar?


Those championships were bought and paid for as was the one in 1976.
 
Those championships were bought and paid for as was the one in 1976.

Everyone knows that the 1976 championship was bought and paid for. The few people outside of Pittsburgh that even care about such ancient history know it was not legitimate. But I was unaware of the others being bought and paid for. I just assumed they had a decent season and claimed a share of the title. With a little research, it turns out that they used to pay Steelers to suit up for Pitt. Dirty cheaters.
 
Everyone knows that the 1976 championship was bought and paid for. The few people outside of Pittsburgh that even care about such ancient history know it was not legitimate. But I was unaware of the others being bought and paid for. I just assumed they had a decent season and claimed a share of the title. With a little research, it turns out that they used to pay Steelers to suit up for Pitt. Dirty cheaters.

Both Sotherland and Warner used paid players, paid their own players, and supplied them with everything from food, housing, cars, women and whatever they wanted. They used other pros than the Steelers and also used the same numbers on different players to disguise their acts. Knute Rockne was the worst of the other cheats, wrote his own betting sheets, bet his own games, and was obsessed with money. He couldn't get enough.
 
And your a foul gutter mouthed reactionary that thinks lawyers should go to trial when defendants acquiesce to the plaintiffs demands. That thinking alone makes you a dangerous man that could never be trusted to make important choices especially where other people's welfare would be involved. Your the worst in all of us, an accuser without proof. A slave to the past with the character of an ingrate. I have gotten you to lose your poise but that is no great fete, your a joke of a man that embarrasses himself every time you post. You can post your gutter mouth tirades all you want but I am not scared of the likes of you, guys like you are a dime a dozen. The world is full of complainers like you who accuse without proof and think that men that they have never met should share their agenda. Your a pariah, a cancer with a poisoned mind that worships at the altar of absolutism.

Funny stuff coming from a servile, zero-priciples, zero-character, say-anything & do-anything he's told BOT-bot boot-licking lacky. Your latest made-up bullshat crusade regarding armPITT is up to your high standards of pure bull$hit spin and demagoguery.

You epitomize something that I was raised to never become...the most dangerous monster on earth, the narcissistic, zero-charachter, self-promoting, self-righteous moral-hypocrite who BELIEVES IN NOTHING and will STAND FOR ANYTHING THAT BENEFITS HIS SELF-INTERESTED NARCISSISTIC BELIEF SYSTEM.

I was raised in the "Old World" Western ethic of the "Golden Rule" and to be a person of substance and principle -- the diametric opposite of a shallow, shameless, say-anything, do-anything, soulless, narcissistic sellout and boot-licking whore such as yourself. I had the following sound advice drilled into me as a youth: "If you BELIEVE in nothing but your own subjective self-interest, you will stand for anything, but if you truly BELIEVE in something (the universe's fundamental laws of moral right & wrong), you will stand on principle when you face pure wrong (e.g., evil) eye-to-eye. In other words, you will act with courage and do the right thing even when in harm's way (hence Christ's words that the greatest sacrifice and love one can show for another is to risk harm to themselves in defense of another) - the zero-character, zero-principles, narcissistic coward will act in self-interest. IOW, adversity will reveal an individual's"true colors" and character - and your colors are the bright piss-yellow color of the hypocrite and coward.

Yep, I was raised to NEVER be a zero-character, zero-principle narcissist who BELIEVES in absolutely nothing and will stand for absolutely anything...a servile little toad, happy you're so proud of yourself and what you've become, but haven't a clue why you think your arrogant, hubris-filled opinion of yourself is important to the rest of us.
 
It's obvious to me that Penn State's interests are much better served by renewing their rivalry with Lehigh than with Pitt. Penn State is ahead of each of those teams in their rivalries and both are in-state schools but Lehigh's National Championship (won on the field) is more recent than that of Pitt's latest one. I'm certain that Lehigh would be more willing to play the majority of games at Penn State whereas Pitt might not want to give up their "home field" advantage.

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You found 7 in over 100 teams and Wisconsin has Minnesota while 3 of the other 6 just recently lost their major rival through Conference ties. I won't even get into the back yard brawl because Penn St. vs Pitt was better. So you maybe have 3 that never had a rival.Not a high percentage.


What part of "only" don't you understand? You wrote it.
 
What part of "only" don't you understand? You wrote it.

Sadly typical, he demands examples that void his theories thereby triggering the rejection of his stated theory and acceptance of the "null hypothesis" under the rules of the "scientific method", but I have a feeling that the demagogue doesn't have a clue what his use of the term "only" in his theory when it is not the "only" occurence implies as to the validity of his overall theory. Cognitive logic not his strong suit, I'm sensing the fungible logic and arguments of an "esquire"....e.g., the "non-scientific approach" where there is zero accountability for theories which have been proven wrong.
 
Despite the 4 pages (and still going) of denial I think the Pitt-psu rivalry is legit. However, an even better rivalry is the Sepatopten-Bushwood CC exchange. Those 2 guys are pure gold. Can you set up a separate forum for these 2. I would read it every day.
 
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Despite the 4 pages (and still going) of denial I think the Pitt-psu rivalry is legit. However, an even better rivalry is the Sepatopten-Bushwood CC exchange. Those 2 guys are pure gold. Can you set up a separate forum for these 2. I would read it every day.

Is it your turn to stop by and say "4 pages, no rivalry here"? You guys are so predictable.

FYI, It is still going only because you went and found a thread that was essentially dead and replied.

I received a BOGO coupon for YSU tickets in the mail last night, want me to forward it your way, or will you be too busy going to museums?
 
Despite the 4 pages (and still going) of denial I think the Pitt-psu rivalry is legit. However, an even better rivalry is the Sepatopten-Bushwood CC exchange. Those 2 guys are pure gold. Can you set up a separate forum for these 2. I would read it every day.
How about a boxers ball bout for charity. I would do it during thon. LOL. Just kidding.
 
Sadly typical, he demands examples that void his theories thereby triggering the rejection of his stated theory and acceptance of the "null hypothesis" under the rules of the "scientific method", but I have a feeling that the demagogue doesn't have a clue what his use of the term "only" in his theory when it is not the "only" occurence implies as to the validity of his overall theory. Cognitive logic not his strong suit, I'm sensing the fungible logic and arguments of an "esquire"....e.g., the "non-scientific approach" where there is zero accountability for theories which have been proven wrong.
I apologized to Art. I did say only and I am not correct. Now you talk about theories. You are full of them and get few things correct. You are especially weak on the Sandusky scandal issues. In closing now that I have educated you in the art of apology and admitting when you are wrong please use what you have learned.
 
Funny stuff coming from a servile, zero-priciples, zero-character, say-anything & do-anything he's told BOT-bot boot-licking lacky. Your latest made-up bullshat crusade regarding armPITT is up to your high standards of pure bull$hit spin and demagoguery.

You epitomize something that I was raised to never become...the most dangerous monster on earth, the narcissistic, zero-charachter, self-promoting, self-righteous moral-hypocrite who BELIEVES IN NOTHING and will STAND FOR ANYTHING THAT BENEFITS HIS SELF-INTERESTED NARCISSISTIC BELIEF SYSTEM.

I was raised in the "Old World" Western ethic of the "Golden Rule" and to be a person of substance and principle -- the diametric opposite of a shallow, shameless, say-anything, do-anything, soulless, narcissistic sellout and boot-licking whore such as yourself. I had the following sound advice drilled into me as a youth: "If you BELIEVE in nothing but your own subjective self-interest, you will stand for anything, but if you truly BELIEVE in something (the universe's fundamental laws of moral right & wrong), you will stand on principle when you face pure wrong (e.g., evil) eye-to-eye. In other words, you will act with courage and do the right thing even when in harm's way (hence Christ's words that the greatest sacrifice and love one can show for another is to risk harm to themselves in defense of another) - the zero-character, zero-principles, narcissistic coward will act in self-interest. IOW, adversity will reveal an individual's"true colors" and character - and your colors are the bright piss-yellow color of the hypocrite and coward.

Yep, I was raised to NEVER be a zero-character, zero-principle narcissist who BELIEVES in absolutely nothing and will stand for absolutely anything...a servile little toad, happy you're so proud of yourself and what you've become, but haven't a clue why you think your arrogant, hubris-filled opinion of yourself is important to the rest of us.
You make stuff up in your head. It must be a circus inside there. Honk, honk. Your absolutely crazy and can be led so easily. I am laughing at you right now.
 
Funny stuff coming from a servile, zero-priciples, zero-character, say-anything & do-anything he's told BOT-bot boot-licking lacky. Your latest made-up bullshat crusade regarding armPITT is up to your high standards of pure bull$hit spin and demagoguery.

You epitomize something that I was raised to never become...the most dangerous monster on earth, the narcissistic, zero-charachter, self-promoting, self-righteous moral-hypocrite who BELIEVES IN NOTHING and will STAND FOR ANYTHING THAT BENEFITS HIS SELF-INTERESTED NARCISSISTIC BELIEF SYSTEM.

I was raised in the "Old World" Western ethic of the "Golden Rule" and to be a person of substance and principle -- the diametric opposite of a shallow, shameless, say-anything, do-anything, soulless, narcissistic sellout and boot-licking whore such as yourself. I had the following sound advice drilled into me as a youth: "If you BELIEVE in nothing but your own subjective self-interest, you will stand for anything, but if you truly BELIEVE in something (the universe's fundamental laws of moral right & wrong), you will stand on principle when you face pure wrong (e.g., evil) eye-to-eye. In other words, you will act with courage and do the right thing even when in harm's way (hence Christ's words that the greatest sacrifice and love one can show for another is to risk harm to themselves in defense of another) - the zero-character, zero-principles, narcissistic coward will act in self-interest. IOW, adversity will reveal an individual's"true colors" and character - and your colors are the bright piss-yellow color of the hypocrite and coward.

Yep, I was raised to NEVER be a zero-character, zero-principle narcissist who BELIEVES in absolutely nothing and will stand for absolutely anything...a servile little toad, happy you're so proud of yourself and what you've become, but haven't a clue why you think your arrogant, hubris-filled opinion of yourself is important to the rest of us.
You were raised to be a complainer. They did a job on you. I am laughing at you uncontrollably.
 
GT: If you're still lurking, please go read the post on the lair free board about Bizarre Quotes from Franklin and then come back and be critical about hatred and animosity on our boards. As a Pitt fan you should be embarrassed by your 5 fellow fans. Please post in that thread about civility and see how fast they turn on you and try to get you banned.
 
Can we let this one die now?

Nor brought up time after time by the same few die hard posters

Agreed

Not true. The series stopped for other reasons, as have been well reported elsewhere.

The series stopped because Pitt refused to make it happen. No matter what PSU offered, long term, short term, they refused to accept it. Granted, there is no market for it too. No one wants to see PSU play another weak OOC school.
 
No. We've been over this. pitt is not our rival. We don't need to play them every year. Dan Marino doesn't play for pitt anymore. 48-14 was 34 years ago. pitt is over.
Damn... I venture over here about once a month and always see a pitt post with a bunch of replies.. really strange for a non rival school..What other team gets so many posts? Rutgers? Maryland? lol..
 
Damn... I venture over here about once a month and always see a pitt post with a bunch of replies.. really strange for a non rival school..What other team gets so many posts? Rutgers? Maryland? lol..

Ah.... so that is why the thread was unnecessarily bumped today. So you could stop by and predictably say what Pitt fans always say.
 
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