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Phils' Cole Hamels thru 5, doing something to watch ...

Tom McAndrew

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though not something you're supposed to mention while it is taking place.

with all the trade talk swirling about Hamels, it would be rather interesting if he achieved this in his final game pitching for the Phils.

Just sayin

Tom
 
though not something you're supposed to mention while it is taking place.

with all the trade talk swirling about Hamels, it would be rather interesting if he achieved this in his final game pitching for the Phils.

Just sayin

Tom
Interesting.....he's actually had a handful of balls well hit against him, so I don't think his non-no will last much longer.....but if it does, given that his pitch count is getting pretty high - would the Phils give him a chance to finish if it takes, say 130-140 pitches? Knowing that potential suitors might be concerned that he gets overextended (ala the guy for the Mets a few years back)
 
thru 6.

thru 7, with 99 pitches. I believe he had 3 KOs in the 7th, so the pitch count doesn't seem to be affecting him.
 
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Thanks for the heads up... I haven't been watching many of their games recently. I've read articles today about Hammels, Pappelbon, and Utley all being discussed relative to trades. While I'd love to keep Hammels, I'd also hate to see him toil away on crappy teams for the next 5 years, when trading him could help the Phillies get better sooner. Utley would be good to trade, even though he was one of my favorite Philly players. Papelbon has no emotional connection for me. Trade him for young talent if you can, even if you have pay part of his salary. Doesn't someone want Ryan Howard? At this point, I'd trade him for a draft pick.
 
oh my, Hamels gets a double with 2 outs (after the Phils score 2 to make it 5-0). It's his 1st double of the year. I'd rather he had struck out, as opposed to running the basepaths. Hernandez followed with a single, and Hamels ran to 3rd on it.
 
WTF is Hammels doing swinging the bat? They have a 5 run lead and with 99 pitches he should have taken three strikes and gone back out to the mound...
 
in the 8th:

1st batter flies out to right, 104 pitches

2nd batter flies out to left center warning track (looked like trouble off the bat), 108 pitches

3rd batter hits a 1-2 pitch hard right back to Hamels (trouble if it got past Cole), 112 pitches

3 outs left for something special
 
That was quite a feat by Wise; remember it well. I was annoyed when the Phils traded Wise. Lucky for them they didn't ask for my opinion of the trade. :D
I guess it worked out better than when the Phils sent Adolfo Phillips and some reliever named Fergie Jenkins to the Cubs for Larry Jackson and Bob Buhl. :)
 
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Phillies and Cubs have had a long, strange trip with many historic feats occurring at Wrigley. I recall 18-16 and #20 with 4 straight HR and a 24-23 game or some such. I'm too young to have any memory of Rick Wise.
 
I guess it worked out better than when the Phils sent Adolfo Phillips and some reliever named Fergie Jenkins to the Cubs for Larry Jackson and Bob Buhl. :)

I have mentioned that trade a few times on this forum, but it still pains me to discuss it. I was absolutely livid when the Phils made that trade.
 
though not something you're supposed to mention while it is taking place.

with all the trade talk swirling about Hamels, it would be rather interesting if he achieved this in his final game pitching for the Phils.

Just sayin

Tom

It's official. Hammels turns the no-no.
 
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9th inning:

1st batter: falls behind 2-1. then 3-1. then 3-2 on a foul. ground ball in the hole. Franco cuts it off in the grass (nice play) and throws out Russell easily at 1st. 118 pitches

2nd batter: 0-1 on a swing and miss. then 0-2 on a called strike (94 mph fastball). 1-2 on a ball. stays 1-2 on a foul on a nasty curve. called strike 3 (you can't take a pitch like that. 13 KOs. 123 pitches.

3rd batter: 0-1 on a grounded foul (Kris Bryant the batter). 1-1 on a high pitch (think it was a fastball). 1-2 on a nasty curve that Bryant wasn't close to hitting. 2-2 on a curve that was outside. 127 pitches. 3-2 on a ball that was in the dirt (either a fastball or a cutter). wow, he gets it on the 129th pitch. a deep fly to straightaway center, that Herrera nearly misplayed, but then scooped just before it hit the dirt on the warning track.

13th no hitter in Phil's history. So happy that I got to watch this one. So happy for Cole Hamels!!!
 
Wind was blowing in. If the wind was blowing out, the last at bat for the Cubs is probably a HR.
 
Amazing to me how many "experts" think the Phils are asking too much for Hamels. I guess that's WHY they are experts ?????
 
I was 5. I recall many guys on both rosters though.
I can write it now without being accused of jinxing. Wise threw a no-hitter and hit two home runs in the game. One walk away from a perfect game in that one. Pete Rose lined out to John Vukovich to end the game. Wise was then traded in the off-season for some guy named Steve Carlton - what Tom alluded to. Great memories.
 
Baseball can make you feel like a little kid again.

I didn't post about it but my wife and son and I went down to the businessman's special on Wednesday. Herrera was one game removed from not getting out of the box on a grounder and catching hell from the fans and Philly papers. He won that one against the Rays in the 10th. My kid is 12 and a huge Phils fan. He's nobody's athlete but he caught a foul ball on the fly at the game, got a big hand from the crowd (he brought his glove) and it was kids run the bases day afterward. I don't care how bad the team is, he watched the end of this with me and Wednesday was a day he will never forget. I feel like a kid again. I have a screenshot somebody sent me from the game but it's not on the net so I don't know how to post it. Good enough, fine with me. I won't forget it either.
 
The asking price for Hamels just went up. It also shuts up all those ignorant fans from other teams saying Cole was washed up and overpaid.
 
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though not something you're supposed to mention while it is taking place.
with all the trade talk swirling about Hamels, it would be rather interesting if he achieved this in his final game pitching for the Phils.
Just sayin
Tom
I estimate I have attended nearly a thousand baseball games during my lifetime, including World Series and All Star games, but I have never seen a no hitter, or even a 1 hitter. I am envious of those who have. Congrats to Hamels.
 
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9th inning:

1st batter: falls behind 2-1. then 3-1. then 3-2 on a foul. ground ball in the hole. Franco cuts it off in the grass (nice play) and throws out Russell easily at 1st. 118 pitches

2nd batter: 0-1 on a swing and miss. then 0-2 on a called strike (94 mph fastball). 1-2 on a ball. stays 1-2 on a foul on a nasty curve. called strike 3 (you can't take a pitch like that. 13 KOs. 123 pitches.

3rd batter: 0-1 on a grounded foul (Kris Bryant the batter). 1-1 on a high pitch (think it was a fastball). 1-2 on a nasty curve that Bryant wasn't close to hitting. 2-2 on a curve that was outside. 127 pitches. 3-2 on a ball that was in the dirt (either a fastball or a cutter). wow, he gets it on the 129th pitch. a deep fly to straightaway center, that Herrera nearly misplayed, but then scooped just before it hit the dirt on the warning track.

13th no hitter in Phil's history. So happy that I got to watch this one. So happy for Cole Hamels!!!
Thanks for the commentary Tom. Great detail . A true veteran avoiding jinx language
 
I didn't post about it but my wife and son and I went down to the businessman's special on Wednesday. Herrera was one game removed from not getting out of the box on a grounder and catching hell from the fans and Philly papers. He won that one against the Rays in the 10th. My kid is 12 and a huge Phils fan. He's nobody's athlete but he caught a foul ball on the fly at the game, got a big hand from the crowd (he brought his glove) and it was kids run the bases day afterward. I don't care how bad the team is, he watched the end of this with me and Wednesday was a day he will never forget. I feel like a kid again. I have a screenshot somebody sent me from the game but it's not on the net so I don't know how to post it. Good enough, fine with me. I won't forget it either.
Your post is why I love baseball. It is the best sport to watch with a young son or grandson, as I will be doing next season. He is to young now. You can watch the game while chatting and explaining things. The pace is just right for that.
My daughters, 33 and 26, both love baseball. It makes their Dad very happy. Now, they love football and hockey too, but they both really love baseball.
 
Not to be forgotten or lost in Hamels no hitter is that Chooch Ruiz now ties Jason Vairtek as catching 4 no hitters, the most by a catcher.
1. Halladay vs Marlins 2010
2. Halladay vs. Reds NLDS Game 1 2010
3. Combo no hitter with Hamels, Diekman, Giles & Papelbon vs. Braves last September.
4. Hamels today vs. Cubs.
 
Yeah, the Phillies are having a disastrous season and for one game you still you get a kick out of being a fan.

A few years ago, I would arrange my schedule to miss as few games as possible. This year, I've gone weeks, perhaps more than a month, without watching a game. To say my team was awful didn't fully capture how bad they have been.

What are the odds that to kill a short bit of time I turn on the TV, and it's on the channel that is showing the Phils' game, and it's the 5th inning? When I realized it was a no-no, I decided to modify my schedule. I remember Whitey saying too many times when Carleton would lose a no-no in the last 3 innings, "I really thought this would be the game where he'd get it." I decided to watch, and see what happened. Could it have been serendipity? Whatever it was, I'm so glad I saw the game from the middle of the 5th inning. Makes up for a lot of pain over the past few seasons.
 
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