If Franklin was going to punish him using playing time, wouldn’t he have done it for the WVU game considering this happened on August 8th? My guess is he’s already been punished.
Football Police charge star Penn State LB Abdul Carter with misdemeanor marijuana possession, use
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I heard Carter had to talk to David Jones for 15 minutes...
Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.
Talk about cruel and unusual punishment.
I’m not pro pot, but I’m sure as hell not going to be a hypocrite about it. Especially when dealing with his age group. Trying to stop its usage especially among young people is like going down to the beach and shouting at the waves to stop coming in. I’d wager that a large majority of the team have smoked a joint a time or two.
Franklin is in a very tough spot here, and I don’t envy him. 18 to 22 year olds aren’t exactly known for good judgment, especially when there’s an element of danger inherent. I’m positive no body posting in this thread ever tried to purchase or drink beer before they were Legally allowed.😍🤪😜. And yes virtually none of us were at the time participating in high level collegiate athletics. But people are crazy if you believe that fact controls their every decision. In a perfect World it would, but we don’t live there.
If Franklin starts harshly punishing players for violating a Law that most of them consider stupid he’s walking on the wrong side of the line. If he ignores it, then his team rules become meaningless. I think he does a great job at this, but occasionally things go wrong. He’s trying to raise 85+ kids, how many did we individually raise?
It’s the very rare individual, especially in that age group, that considers all the future consequences and potential personal losses at the moment of temptation. Damn that was almost Biblical.
There’s an unspoken rule here, wether we want to admit it or not. Franklin knows that often players drink a beer or smoke a joint. If he jacked them up without the authorities or press creating an issue we probably wouldn’t be happy with the product on the field. The real infraction players understand is getting caught and embarrassing the program. Abdul is probably a great kid with an amazing future. He just did something stupid and got caught doing something the state and local authorities enforce in an often slipshod and unmotivated manner.
Doesn’t campus police have other things to do? It’s hypocritical to make a big deal about this anymore.
This stream is hilarious! Some of you guys forget this is 2023 and not 1963.
Times and situations have changed.
This is at worst a bad PR act by Carter, nothing more. No harm, no foul.
Penn State has bigger problems trying to figure out how not to get physically manhandled on defense when playing teams with power run games.
Times and situations have changed.
This is at worst a bad PR act by Carter, nothing more. No harm, no foul.
Penn State has bigger problems trying to figure out how not to get physically manhandled on defense when playing teams with power run games.
Excellent, you said in a few sentences what I was trying to state in five long paragraphs.
Just get a card man ............ geez. It's not like they don't give them out like candy!
Police charge star Penn State LB Abdul Carter with misdemeanor marijuana possession, use
Penn State University police have charged Nittany Lions' star linebacker Abdul Carter with misdemeanor marijuana possession following an incident at a campus dowjactv.com
Mmj helps pain a lot more than people realize and soo much better on you than most medications. I have neuropathy in my right foot and was screaming with pain till a friend gave some infused thc cream to try, and it was a game changer. I have my own mmj card now and it's helped me in many ways. Pretty hard to fault but everybody's reasons are different
If a large chunk of fans are going to chalk this up to "No biggie!", then remember that when it happens at other schools. My concern is that a few "superstars" have now had assault and drug charges over the past few months, and it's entirely possible that impressionable youngsters are going to see them get off easy (at least publicly) and test the limits of what they can get away with. And then that leads to headlines like "Dozens of PSU Football players have been arrested" in addition to the academic concerns. If this is the path we are on as a program then I damn sure hope that we at least win something meaningful!
Great don't forget reality reminder. Yes, they did. Some before that. Even a few sport and academic AAs. Time to get Woke here. The past is what it is, not what the Karen's of the world wish it had been.
I can see already a huge pro-weed crowd forming here and pushing the idea that everyone uses and just make it legal everywhere. I think they are missing the point that it is illegal in PA and against team rules.
Further, it is not enhancing performance. My view is that Carter using during camp when he should be focused on preparing for the season is selfish and short sighted. It may even explain his lackluster play so far where he did not look dialed in. Did he read his press clippings in the offseason? Did he stop pushing like he did freshman year or lose focus? I don't know but many who use get off track in life and lose focus. So do many who drink heavily. I want the best for PSU and for Carter personally so I am hoping this is a one time thing from which he learns and grows as a young man.
Further, it is not enhancing performance. My view is that Carter using during camp when he should be focused on preparing for the season is selfish and short sighted. It may even explain his lackluster play so far where he did not look dialed in. Did he read his press clippings in the offseason? Did he stop pushing like he did freshman year or lose focus? I don't know but many who use get off track in life and lose focus. So do many who drink heavily. I want the best for PSU and for Carter personally so I am hoping this is a one time thing from which he learns and grows as a young man.
Yep. The ‘it should be legal’ argument is meaningless. It isn’t legal, period, full stop. It does come into play when you discuss consequences.
As another poster said, this puts CJF in a bind. The players broke the rule. If CJF lets him Off the team thinks ‘ok, why did he say this is a rule when it is not’ and ‘What other rules can I break without consequences’? Finally, you create dissension. I can see a guy like Say-Hey-Dak saying “ if it was me coach would throw me off the team to get my ‘ship back.”
That is why this is on Carter. He created a problem for the TEAM and, as a leader with NFL goals, needs to do better
It depends on what you mean by not enhancing performance. If you use it to get sky high and eat a bag of chips in one sitting, yeah, not so much. If it’s used responsibly, in moderation, it can effectively be utilized to reduce stress, pain and improve sleep. Depending on what piece of literature you find, 50% or more pro football players may be using it. How they use it is the key.
The timing probably has to do with when he was "charged" - he was charged with misdemeanor possession so he was not likely arrested and booked at the time of the incident. Sounds like he was only served with charges yesterday. This is a pretty minor charge - not something they arrest and take you into custody for, I don't believe.
Here's the quote from original linked article:
Tuesday, as in a couple days ago Tuesday 08/05/2023. IOW, there was nothing to report until Tuesday.
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Why in Lord's name was the State College PD arresting the star linebacker for smoking the ganga?
Minimize this all you want, but the culture shift for this program is nearly complete. Becoming indistinguishable from the Ohio States of the world.
It was campus police who responded because he set off the smoke alarms. It's not like they were out to get him. He created a situation where they were forced to respond and were immediately aware of a law being broken. If you want different laws, pass them. The police are not at fault here. It's not like he was overcharged to make a point.
Let's just get to that point where our win percentage is indistinguishable too.
There should be a sarcasm emoji here to help detect it. I saw on another site a couple of posters that were blaming the police for the incident which I think is ridiculous. If police show up in an emergency response and witness a law being broken then they don't have a lot of choice.
Anybone else slightly concerned that Franklin didn't suspend Theo or Abdul. Need to teach the team/ individual players that there will be consequences. Would like to at least have seen a half game suspension.
I have a friend with neuropathy in his foot too. Really limits his mobility sometimes. What brand are you using?
Speaking only for myself, I think it's dusgusting. I've never used it. It smells bad. I think it's a bit irresponsible for a player on our team to get caught using it, but I'm not going to condemn him for using it. It's generally accepted across the country at this point and the toothpaste is out of the tube. I think it's ridiculous to be prosecuted for it when I've literally walked behind people for blocks in Philly (same state) who were smoking it out in the open. Nobody cares. This situation is equivalent to the player that got busted for stealing a bike out of the dumpster.
According to the junior senator from the Commonwealth, he did no wrong,
Nah. He is on top of NIL implications. He knows $$$.
Has a son near the top of the list as an example for all to see.
Nothing to see here. Nothing is bad anymore. Whatever.Police charge star Penn State LB Abdul Carter with misdemeanor marijuana possession, use
Penn State University police have charged Nittany Lions' star linebacker Abdul Carter with misdemeanor marijuana possession following an incident at a campus do
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Geez mountain out of a molehill. I remember college and a lot of people smoked weed. I did every chance I could. If I was broke I would go to a frat party and get all the free weed I wanted. Now 40 years later it is an issue for Carter. Heck the people I saw use cocaine are likely on here lecturing this kid over smoking a joint.
If charges aren’t dropped he will be offered ARD, pay a fine of about $2k (because every organization in Center County believes they’ve been harmed and want their cut), and if he makes it thru that, the record eliminated as if there wasn’t even a charge.
Weed will not be a factor in his draft stock, but his performance will be.
Weed will not be a factor in his draft stock, but his performance will be.
FWIW I looked up the docket sheet. It's "small amount, personal use." Still a misdemeanor in Pennsylvania but will likely be resolved through a plea deal to a summary offense or ARD and will be the end of it.
Franklin says resolved internally so I don't think anything more is going to come of it except another news article when the deal/ARD is put in place in a few weeks.
Franklin says resolved internally so I don't think anything more is going to come of it except another news article when the deal/ARD is put in place in a few weeks.
Sorry, but this didn’t just start happening. There were plenty of incidents back when Joe Paterno was coach.
At this point I have only watched the first quarter of Carter's plays and he did not look so hot and certainly nowhere close to all B10 caliber that we all are hoping. He had the one play on the QB where he almost got the sack and disrupted the QBs run enough that he did not gain much. Other plays he went the wrong direction or never challenged the blocker in front of him, just did not look aggressive. Yes, I get it, I am using one quarter of the first game so hardly any kind of sample but without watching the rest of Carter's plays, I know it was not stellar for the game. Again, I understand a very small sample.
What's my point? He is supposed to be one of our superstars and you can't be getting stoned then being caught by police in preseason camp then start off the season in a lackluster way. This sends a piss poor message to the rest of the team. I know people may think I am overreacting but this guy is a high profile football player and elite athlete. Beyond that he stands to make millions in the NFL in a couple years. This is not some random sophomore frat boy smoking weed in the SAE house and then getting caught by police with possession. This is a terrible look and he better get his act together. CJF has already addressed this I'm sure if it occurred on 8/8 so let's hope this is a one time bad decision by a college kid and he is on track now. We all want him to succeed in a big way.
