Shyt. Are you telling me down by a point with time running out in the third he did not go to the taking duck under?
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Teasdale is going to be dominant in college.
It's that inability to quit and need to dominate. The kid will hit the room on a dead sprint. He will be one of those guys they chase out of the room, but while in there he will continuously learn and improve.
Be happy he is going to be a Nittany Lion.
It's that inability to quit and need to dominate. The kid will hit the room on a dead sprint. He will be one of those guys they chase out of the room, but while in there he will continuously learn and improve.
Be happy he is going to be a Nittany Lion.
Carson Manville exhibited amazing restraint. I was in a bout where the kid kept slapping me in the face. I told the ref and the ref ignored it. Finally I had too much. He slapped me one more time and I cold cocked him. Looking at Manville's eyes, he seemed ready to strike back at Silva. But he never did. Silva spent the match baiting Manville. But Silva never seemed to shoot.
Manville's upside is off the charts. He is a real power wrestler, combining almost blinding speed with tremendous strength. He's young and he's loaded with tools. And he's in the right place. Sem's coaching should bring him along nicely. Love to see him in Blue and White. If he continues to improve, geez, how good could he become?
Manville's upside is off the charts. He is a real power wrestler, combining almost blinding speed with tremendous strength. He's young and he's loaded with tools. And he's in the right place. Sem's coaching should bring him along nicely. Love to see him in Blue and White. If he continues to improve, geez, how good could he become?
Nic Bouzakis IS in 8th grade and, yes, 8th graders are not supposed to wrestle in PIAA sanctioned events.
There was some talk about a new interpretation this year, but pretty sure it didn't end up being the case. We are currently trying to get some clarification on it. Although, someone just told me that LHP attempted to do the same thing at the Beast, but the TD there caught it and called them on it. Looks like they may have slipped one by the Powerade guys.
I was wondering as well so I’m just guessing he’s not a D5 fan. Lol. Seriously though, Chestnut Ridge has built a solid program and it was impressive no matter how you slice it
I think that's two in college. High school rules are a little different. I saw a match over the weekend where the ref said both knees need to be in bounds. Not sure if that's true. I can't keep up with the rule differences.
They borrow that mat from Oklahoma State? In college that is two, the bigger mat will also help.
They certainly have built a nice program. Better than when I went there (class of 94).
What is not true?
8th graders ARE allowed to compete in DE. Beast policy was not to allow them to compete, not DE policy. Not sure what OH has to do with this.
There were no rule changes this year in the PIAA. Prior to this year the rule interpretation was that although PA athletes were allowed to compete against 8th graders in states that allowed 8th graders to compete (e.g. DE), PIAA school hosted events did not allow for that.
However, as I mentioned there was some chatter about reinterpretation of the 6 year/4 year rule so that 8th graders would be ok to enter as long as this was allowed by their state federation. I heard this from a coach who is PA but not PIAA. We attempted to verify this new interpretation unsuccessfully, speaking directly with a contract there.
The Bouzikas situation will certainly aid in getting an interpretation.
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Wonder why all states can't be the same.
Has to be a reason.
Reason Mark Hall won six in minnesota even 7th grade can
wrestle.
Reason he wrestled as 7th grader is because he lost in
finals at Kentucky I think and took 7th grade over at
Apple Valley.
Has to be a reason.
Reason Mark Hall won six in minnesota even 7th grade can
wrestle.
Reason he wrestled as 7th grader is because he lost in
finals at Kentucky I think and took 7th grade over at
Apple Valley.
States I'm aware of:
NY - 7th & 8th eligible, but need a physical and a waiver I believe. They also have a 99lb class but doesn't count in duals unless both teams can fill it.
NJ - 9th
PA - 9th
Preps - 7th & 8th eligible, but not for National Preps (I think)
DE - 8th eligible, not sure about 7th
VA - 9th
FL - 6th, 7th & 8th
MD - no idea, never followed any non-prep team down there
That's all I know on the east coast. Assuming 9th for CA, IA, IL, OH because you would most likely know it if not. 7th & 8th for KY and MN.
Anybody else, or any corrections from above.
I graduated in 1990 and faced a few from Chestnut Ridge in my day. They weren’t as strong as they are now but they were always solid and were tough as nails. Maybe not always fundamentally but they always brought their lunch pails. Don’t recall losing to anyone from there with the with the exception of McGills dad. At least I’m guessing it’s his dad. Terry I think is his name.
Yeah, Coach Clark ran a pretty nice program there during his time. I think we beat most teams we faced. It seemed like we always got beat by Township, Cambria Heights, and Central Cambria. Coach Lazor has taken it to another level though.
I'm not sure if Terry is the current McGill's dad or not. I don't know him.
Probably only of interest to some of you, but we received official clarification from the PIAA this morning. The email started out with "the 8th grader that participated in Powerade has everyone asking the question."
Lake Highland Prep WAS allowed to enter the 8th grader in Powerade. He will be able to compete there for five years through his senior year if they continue to enter the tournament. They are able to do this because they are a member in good standing with their respective NFHS organization and the PIAA recognizes their rules. As such an 8th grader from a school in MN, NY, FL, DE, etc (I know MN can't enter here because of their own state rules, but if they could) that is a member of their state associated NFHS organization is eligible.
The key is member in good standing of a state associated NFHS organization. As such, prep schools who are not members of their state organizations (Blair, Sem, Malvern, etc) can NOT enter 8th graders in these events at this time. Not sure if this will change in the future, but this is how the PIAA is interpreting this as of this morning.
In any case, 5th year seniors are not eligible for PIAA. I mention this because this is often confused with the 8th grade thing above. So if a kid wrestles as a 9th grader in public HS, transfers to private and reclassifies, he is not eligible to wrestle as a 5th year SR in PIAA events. The 4 year clock starts ticking once he hits 9th grade. Also, the 6 year eligibility issue stays in force. 6 years of competition from 7th to 12th.
So as long as you comply with all of the above, you CAN enter as an 8th grader if your respective state association allows it.
Correct. It seems they were also able to do the same in Ohio and Delaware. My "ugh" to your post was this quote:
"Although, someone just told me that LHP attempted to do the same thing at the Beast, but the TD there caught it and called them on it. Looks like they may have slipped one by the Powerade guys."
What they initially said was he wasn't allowed in, then they reversed their decision. You can see his name on the brackets. Here is the actual rule in PIAA:
"Section 1A. July 27, 2006; as amended October 8, 2010. PIAA member senior high schools may participate in InterSchool Practices, Scrimmages, and/or Contests against nonPIAA member senior high schools that (1) are in good standing with their respective National Federation of State High School Association (NFHS)-member state high school associations and (2) have on their Teams’ rosters junior high or middle school students enrolled in the 7th and/or 8th grades. However, PIAA member senior high schools are not permitted to use students enrolled in the 7th and/or 8th grades on their Teams in such InterSchool Practices, Scrimmages, and/or Contests, unless otherwise authorized under these By-Laws."
In complete legalese speak, because the PIAA does not define in-state or out-of-state contests, he was eligible. LHP did not attempt to "slip one" by Ironman, Beast or Powerade.
Ohio does not have any specific regulation/by-law that does not allow them to not compete against 7th & 8th graders from teams from other states. So, as in the reasoning you were given above, the NFHS rules apply first and are over-riding. So if a school is in good standing in with the NFHS, it's State Association rules apply.
In further news from the arcane world of state athletic associations, NJSIAA sent out a directive last week that their wrestlers are not able to use the PA 2lb allowance because NJ's doesn't kick in until January 15th. So all their wrestlers that competed in holiday tournaments like the Hurricane, and like ours next week, will have to compete weighing 2 pounds less than their competitors.
Totally bizarre and without logic. Also, what would be the ramifications? Weight classes are for specific events, kids are allowed to move between them and the only thing that is affected is your weight descent plan. The only reasoning I see in it is to try to discourage NJ wrestlers from wrestling outside of NJ. Which seems to be the reasoning behind some of their other rules as well.
Totally bizarre and without logic. Also, what would be the ramifications? Weight classes are for specific events, kids are allowed to move between them and the only thing that is affected is your weight descent plan. The only reasoning I see in it is to try to discourage NJ wrestlers from wrestling outside of NJ. Which seems to be the reasoning behind some of their other rules as well.
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Just another example of almost all athletic associations. They exist for the economic concerns of a select few adults and have very little concerns about what's good for the kids.
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