Exactly. My choice not to give has little, now, to do with Joe. As far as the Alumni Association is concerned, it has to do with the changes to Alumni Council, for example, and the packing of that organization with folks the alumni rejected.This isn't about Joe Paterno. This is about a complete lack of fiduciary responsibility by the BOT. It's about poor stewardship by the administration. Yes, it is also a learning experience. When the alumni are told our time at PSU is done, our opinions and input aren't wanted, just our donations, perhaps it's time to show them what a university without alumni input truly is like in all ways.