PSU admin tests new greek rules, and flops...

[BoChops]

From The Daily Collegian,

"A senior Penn State official called the State College Police Department on three fraternities over the weekend for violating alcohol sanctions recently placed on them.

Senior Director of Office of Student Conduct Danny Shaha called police to report there were people drinking at Chi Phi and Sigma Alpha Mu late Saturday night and early Sunday morning, according to police. Shaha also called late Saturday night to report possible underage drinking at Delta Chi.

Penn State announced extended sanctions on greek life on March 31, as previously reported by The Daily Collegian.

Since the new sanctions don’t have laws enforcing them, police said there isn’t anything they can do."

 

[MtNittany]

They need to add "drug use" to their report. I'm sure there was a rolled up piece of athletic tape somewhere on the grounds...

 

[NittPicker]

Our university administration is dumb. Did they really think SCPD would send the posse to enforce a university sanction? The local police have their hands full during most weekends so there's no way they're going to drop everything else just because Shaha calls to squeal on a couple underagers who may or may not be at a fraternity house. If I was the SCPD chief I'd be on the phone this morning to set Shaha straight. "If you have a real crime to report we'd be happy investigate. If you're going to report underagers might be at a fraternity house then don't bother."

 

[jerseylion109]

Our adminstration is a complete joke

 

[LeatherHelmets]

Is little Danny cooking meth in his house? Maybe have the cops check it out - you never know.

 

[interrobang]

That pretty much sums it up.

Make a big stink about cracking down on something, then in the end, accomplish absolutely nothing. Kind of par for the course the last six years.

 

[jerseylion109]

People drinking in an off campus house! The outrage!

 

[Pardlion]

From The Daily Collegian,

"A senior Penn State official called the State College Police Department on three fraternities over the weekend for violating alcohol sanctions recently placed on them.

Senior Director of Office of Student Conduct Danny Shaha called police to report there were people drinking at Chi Phi and Sigma Alpha Mu late Saturday night and early Sunday morning, according to police. Shaha also called late Saturday night to report possible underage drinking at Delta Chi.

Penn State announced extended sanctions on greek life on March 31, as previously reported by The Daily Collegian.

Since the new sanctions don’t have laws enforcing them, police said there isn’t anything they can do."

So, this "senior administrator" seems to be under the delusion that his rulez have the force and effect of law, such that he can call the po po and have violators thrown in the slammer. This tells you something about the level of arrogance and self-aggrandizement that we're dealing with, doesn't it? Somebody should have this busy body prosecuted for trespassing and filing a false police report.

 

[fairgambit]

Photo of Mr. Shaha on a lunch break?

 

[Sharkies]

So, this "senior administrator" seems to be under the delusion that his rulez have the force and effect of law, such that he can call the po po and have violators thrown in the slammer. This tells you something about the level of arrogance and self-aggrandizement that we're dealing with, doesn't it? Somebody should have this busy body prosecuted for trespassing and filing a false police report.

Agree- I literally had to google this article to make sure it wasn't written on April 1st... it wasn't. This is unreal.

 

[MtNittany]

How this despicable administration sees things:

Town & Gown

 

[Art]

Shaha works for Damon Dim. What else would you expect?

 

[Nitt1300]

Did I tell you guys I went to Penn State? I meant Kent State.

 

[dwiz]

Shaha works for Damon Dim. What else would you expect?

Was gonna say, this definitely has Sims written all over it.

 

[lionroar88]

Isn't calling 911 repeatedly against the law? This appears to be bordering on harassment!

 

[interrobang]

Reminds me of the two goons in Police Academy that try to get Mahoney and company in trouble, but then end up at the Blue Oyster bar.

 

[dshumbero]

Reminds me of the two goons in Police Academy that try to get Mahoney and company in trouble, but then end up at the Blue Oyster bar.

 

[Pardlion]

Shaha works for Damon Dim. What else would you expect?

Is Danny Shaha related to Donna Shalala?

 

[MtNittany]

Is Danny Shaha related to Donna Shalala?

 

[BoulderFish]

From The Daily Collegian,

"A senior Penn State official called the State College Police Department on three fraternities over the weekend for violating alcohol sanctions recently placed on them.

Senior Director of Office of Student Conduct Danny Shaha called police to report there were people drinking at Chi Phi and Sigma Alpha Mu late Saturday night and early Sunday morning, according to police. Shaha also called late Saturday night to report possible underage drinking at Delta Chi.

Penn State announced extended sanctions on greek life on March 31, as previously reported by The Daily Collegian.

Since the new sanctions don’t have laws enforcing them, police said there isn’t anything they can do."

Yowza. There HAS to be another side to this story. Nobody is this dim, are they??

 

[androcles]

...there are probably 10 times as many students living- and drinking- in off campus rooms/apartments as in fraternities...
...will Danny Boy be sending moles to wiggle their way into these places???...hmmm...

 

[LafayetteBear]

I understand the North-American Interfraternity Conference (NIC) had a meeting or conference call of the Executive Directors of the national fraternities either yesterday or the day before to discuss the sudden "permaban" of Beta without due process (or even notice) to either Beta National or the local housing corporation, and how to address the new "party rules" (for lack of a better term) announced by PSU, again with no notice or input from the National fraternities. I think it's safe to say there will be further developments in this matter. We're still waiting to hear what the Centre County DA intends to do with respect to the Tim Piazza tragedy. She is reported to be politically ambitious. What a surprise. Especially in Pennsylvania.

 

[The Song Remains the Same]

I understand the National Intrafraternity Conference (NIC) had a meeting or conference call of the Executive Directors of the national fraternities either yesterday or the day before to discuss the sudden "permaban" of Beta without due process (or even notice) to either Beta National or the local housing corporation, and how to address the new "party rules" (for lack of a better term) announced by PSU, again with no notice or input from the National fraternities. I think it's safe to say there will be further developments in this matter. We're still waiting to hear what the Centre County DA intends to do with respect to the Tim Piazza tragedy. She is reported to be politically ambitious. What a surprise. Especially in Pennsylvania.

Well, the Centre County DA certainly knows she has Ditka in her arsenal...

 

[LafayetteBear]

Well, the Centre County DA certainly knows she has Ditka in her arsenal...

Why Ditka was not reported to the Pennsylvania State Bar, and punished, is beyond me. She is a flat out embarrassment to the profession. Of course, the same could be said about so many people (Fina, Williams, etc.)

 

[manatree]

As someone that lives in/near the fraternity district, other than the cancellation of parties the weekend this student died, I have seen no change in the normal party activity in the neighborhood. Granted, I don't know what makes the difference between a social event and a non-social event, but whatever previous restrictions were in place seemed to have little to no impact.

 

[jerseylion109]

this may have been answered before....if a national fraternity like Beta is unaffiliated with psu but the alumni and national organization want to keep it allive in some form or fashion, what is stopping them from doing that? Besides participating in THON and homecoming etc. what is stop at club from forming off campus and having their own parties etc.

 

[LafayetteBear]

this may have been answered before....if a national fraternity like Beta is unaffiliated with psu but the alumni and national organization want to keep it allive in some form or fashion, what is stopping them from doing that? Besides participating in THON and homecoming etc. what is stop at club from forming off campus and having their own parties etc.

That is a good question, jerseylion, as it is a live issue in numerous campuses around the country. Universities, due to both PR and liability concerns, are now using "association agreements" between the University and each fraternity to try and extract a number of concessions (e.g., have the University named as an "additional insured" on the fraternity's liability insurance policy), and impose a number of restrictions (primarily on risk management issues like alcohol use, parties, hazing) or requirements (e.g.,alcohol and sexual harassment seminars).

A number of campuses feature chapters that have elected to forego university recognition because they regard the terms of the association agreement as too draconian. Universities are stiil trying to figure out how to deal with that, and in some cases using the leverage they have over individual student members of the fraternity in order to exert pressure on the fraternity to comply (i.e., sign and comply with its association agreement).

In cities where the municipal attitude towards fraternities is hostile, we have recently seen a substantial increase in the practice of amending the city's zoning code to state that the use of a given parcel of real property as a "fraternity house" is a "non-confirming use" which can be continued only if the occupant of the property is recognized by the local university. In such cases, loss of university recognition arguably makes the use of the property as a fraternity house illegal. Whether this zoning strategy prevails against an organization's assertion of its First Amendment "free association" rights is still unclear, as there have not yet been enough court cases to clarify the issue.

 

[KSLion]

From The Daily Collegian,

"A senior Penn State official called the State College Police Department on three fraternities over the weekend for violating alcohol sanctions recently placed on them.

Senior Director of Office of Student Conduct Danny Shaha called police to report there were people drinking at Chi Phi and Sigma Alpha Mu late Saturday night and early Sunday morning, according to police. Shaha also called late Saturday night to report possible underage drinking at Delta Chi.

Penn State announced extended sanctions on greek life on March 31, as previously reported by The Daily Collegian.

Since the new sanctions don’t have laws enforcing them, police said there isn’t anything they can do."

What on Earth would give this guy the idea that IFC rules are the Law of the Land, be that city-, county- or state-, other than a very severe case of Terminal Dumb???

There's got to be a missing piece to this story.

 

[jerseylion109]

just saw the town is now trying to crack down on any parties where the max occupancy exceeds the house limit. Also said psu encourages this so they can start to crack down on parties.

So much for college being a place to learn, grow, and live on your own.

 

[bmw199]

I haven't reached the part of the alumni life cycle yet where I have extra cash to donate, but when I do they get $0 if they don't get rid of morons like this and I can't wait until the next time lionlines calls so I can tell them that.

 

[gymdad]

just saw the town is now trying to crack down on any parties where the max occupancy exceeds the house limit. Also said psu encourages this so they can start to crack down on parties.

So much for college being a place to learn, grow, and live on your own.

I wonder how that would impact permissible participants at social events held at this fraternity type structure off of Park Ave.it is 10,000 sq ft.

Been to several social events here with hundreds of others. for those who don't recognize this fraternity house type structure it is the Schreyer House... PSU provided housing for President Barron.

 

[MtNittany]

Explanation from Chi Phi President:

As you have probably seen, the chapter was the subject of some negative press this past Sunday. Here's the article. There's a lot of misinformation that I would like to clear up.

Essentially the entire issue stems from some sort of registration error:
On Thursday afternoon I send an email to OFSL to register our Parents' Weekend events. Our social chair, Steve Polis, supplements this by submitting the social registration form for the weekend.
Saturday afternoon goes as planned.
Saturday night after dinner, parents & students reconvene at the house.
No one is assigned to work door because the IFC doesn't come through the house during the Parent's Weekend events.
Around 10:30pm the IFC security team (IFC) arrives at the house. No one lets them in as there's no one at the door because we are not expecting them.
The reason the IFC showed up is because, for some reason which we haven't figured out yet, they have no record of an event being registered.
So, from the IFC's perspective they have found a potentially unregistered event and are not being let into the house.
It takes a while for us to let them in because, when a newly initiated brother finally heard them at the door, they were unsure what to do so they went and found me before answering.
In the interim between the IFC arriving and me answering the door, the IFC alerted OFSL and subsequently the police that they were not being let in to an unregistered event and therefore assumed there was alcohol present.
I let the IFC in and they go through the house and DO NOT FIND ANY ALCOHOL OR DRINKS WHATSOEVER. Regardless, they order the event to be shut down and we obliged.
As the IFC are leaving I hear for the first time that they had no registration for the event.
The police come ~20 min later simply to corroborate my story and the IFC's. They leave after about 10 minutes.
As you can see, the article presents a very perverted truth. I firmly believe that we were following the rules to the best of our abilities and accordingly I am very frustrated that our Parents' Weekend was wrongfully shut down early. That said, I understand why the IFC acted the way they did.

The bottom line is that we are not in any sort of trouble but for the negative publicity of that article which seems to have been forgotten already.

Please feel free to distribute this to any alumni that are concerned.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Regards,
Ellis Driscoll

 

[Lion84]

They need to call the Godfather to handle this.

 

[LafayetteBear]

They need to call the Godfather to handle this.

A "like" does not do justice to this post. Major props. Lion84.