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PSU - Wisconsin 2020 Dual Thread

Wick virtually never loses by more than a pt or two (excluding the very occasional fall). iirc Mehki Lewis beat him5-2 last yr, but most big matches are even closer than that.
Very impressive efort by Dino.

i cant remember a more dominant, punishing rider than Nick Lee is this yr.
Well, with one exception.
 
I'm feeling really good about RBYs chances this year. From beginning of the season till now it looks like he's matured 10 fold out there. Looking real confident and relaxed.
Question on the 2 back pts RBY gave up on the spladle. RBY's shoulders were resting on Gross's chest and should that have been 2 near fall pts?
 
Best I’ve felt coming out of a dual in awhile.

Mark, Cenzo, Lee make the finals.

RBY got a shot, and AB a longer shot.

Wish I felt confident about anything from the other guys, but a good March could make things interesting...

I'll go one further. Mark, Cenzo and Nick WIN titles. RBY is finalist. Brooks top 4 with shot at finals.

Will that be enough?
 
It doesn't matter anymore but one thing that's been discussed on this board before. If it was ruled that Gross should have had 4NF, they would have reset the score to 6-0 with RBY down right? RBY's reversal is reversed and Gross gets to ride fresh from the top. Complete BS honestly.
 
What do you all think?'
Iowa or PSU to win the team title this year?
PSU?
IOWA?
It's not going to be anything otherwise.

Place your bets. Iowa will wins this. Both great teams. Actually.....PSU might finish third. peace out.
Vodka is that you o_O
 
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Kennedy is a fantastic recruit, but I have questions as to whether the body will hold up. I don't remember the last season he made it all the way through (though, hard for all HS kids to do that now). I just feel like he's "dinged up" a lot. Would imagine it only gets worse in college. I do wish him the best, though. Well, second-best behind Facundo based solely upon their collegiate decisions.
 
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I'll go one further. Mark, Cenzo and Nick WIN titles. RBY is finalist. Brooks top 4 with shot at finals.

Will that be enough?
NO. Do we really have to go down that rabbit hole again? Come on people, EVERYONE knows you need 8 (count 'em) scoring wrestlers to win the Natty. Eight = NC. Mic drop, exit stage left.
 
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Pull the shirt. Uphill battle but it’s too close not too. To think we might still be there without Cassar and Berge is crazy.
Yep. I'm going to say the same thing. February 8th and Brady obviously isn't coming back, but this is coming down with Iowa to a matter of a few points and I'm sorry but this is not like Quentin wright. Beard will score the points that might make the difference, but a close win over a 5 and 13 kid just isn't what I was hoping for.
 
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Good lord, the match thread on HR is priceless with the predictions. Enjoy. And yeah, don't feed that troll. He's over there as well.

@165:

“It could go either way but I can see wick being patient and frustrating VJ. It is always enjoyable seeing VJ flap his hands around in desperation.”

-Grip220 :eek:
 
Wick virtually never loses by more than a pt or two (excluding the very occasional fall). iirc Mehki Lewis beat him5-2 last yr, but most big matches are even closer than that.
Very impressive efort by Dino.

Do you mean “Captain Smooth”?
 
Yep. I'm going to say the same thing. February 8th and Brady obviously isn't coming back, but this is coming down with Iowa to a matter of a few points and I'm sorry but this is not like Quentin wright. Beard will score the points that might make the difference, but a close win over a 5 and 13 kid just isn't what I was hoping for.

Beard quite certain would have bonused. No idea where the coaches see this team, but every week that goes by makes me want to pull the shirt.
 
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Why does Gross not have to attempt a shot in entire match?
Because he has very little offense on his feet. He leaves his left leg out there just hoping whoever he's wrestling will take it. Can't believe he sucked down to 57kgs. Going to be interesting watching gross against Lee if it ends up that way.
I'd like to see RBY vs Lee.
Sry for rambling but did Wick not look two weight classes bigger than Joseph? Holy shit he looked huge. I knew he was tall but damn.

Was that Rasheed's last chance?
 
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NLee and VJo both just destroyed the #4 guys in the country.....

running up the mountain to peak in March.....nice

Agree with this. My god it was brutal. I'll be surprised if those two don't run through everyone on their way to the finals.
 
Because he has very little offense on his feet. He leaves his left leg out there just hoping whoever he's wrestling will take it. Can't believe he sucked down to 57kgs. Going to be interesting watching gross against Lee if it ends up that way.
I'd like to see RBY vs Lee.
Sry for rambling but did Wick not look two weight classes bigger than Joseph? Holy shit he looked huge. I knew he was tall but damn.

Was that Rasheed's last chance?
I'd say that Sunday has to be it for shak. Like I said, I don't see any similarities to the Quentin wright situation years ago. Kid was 6 and 14 and it was 3-0 in 3rd period and the kid nearly took shak down.
 
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Again? He spent two-thirds of the mat in the "fish" position sloping around on his stomach! Could have easily been stalled out of the match. Ridiculous that he only gave up 1 stalling point with that belly flop routine.

Granted stalling is not time based but action and effort based, but....Generally speaking each minute to minute and a half of riding time should equate to 1 pt stalling on bottom. Only 1 stalling point was a gift, what did Nick have, 4 minutes of RT? That said. I think Nic should have played more catch and release to get the TF.
 
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Gross is a huge talent, is very experienced, has great coaching and is majoring everyone since the first Desanto loss. RBY is on a roll but I have to list him as at least a slight underdog in all honesty. A minor decision against will still be a big confidence builder and keep him in play for the conversation as a NC, if he somehow pulls it off i will be ecstatic and he then becomes one of the favorites.

Wick will also present a style and body/length challenge for Cenzo but I see him controlling the match and winning comfortably maybe 3-5 points.


Pretty close crystal ball both matches.

I am so jazzed for RBY. So fast & athletic, getting better by the day. Who the heck wants to face him in March? Dangerous and proof positive he can hang with Gross and AD.

RBY and Nick Lee are noticeably physically stronger this year which has closed the gap with everyone else.
 
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I'd say that Sunday has to be it for shak. Like I said, I don't see any similarities to the Quentin wright situation years ago. Kid was 6 and 14 and it was 3-0 in 3rd period and the kid nearly took shak down.
In the second period ,shack wrestle not to lose instead of trying to bonus. On the bright side he was good on top and attempted some back points on the down side he did nothing for 3 minutes in the middle of the match.
 
In the second period ,shack wrestle not to lose instead of trying to bonus. On the bright side he was good on top and attempted some back points on the down side he did nothing for 3 minutes in the middle of the match.
I'm inclined to cut Shak a little slack here. It's tough to turn a guy that is determined to take no chances getting turned from bottom. He spent most of his time punishing Shak's forearm with his face.
 
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Because he has very little offense on his feet. He leaves his left leg out there just hoping whoever he's wrestling will take it. Can't believe he sucked down to 57kgs. Going to be interesting watching gross against Lee if it ends up that way.
I'd like to see RBY vs Lee.
Sry for rambling but did Wick not look two weight classes bigger than Joseph? Holy shit he looked huge. I knew he was tall but damn.

Was that Rasheed's last chance?

Gross against Nick Lee? Lee would kill him. I’ve not watched much of Gross before this year so perhaps others have a prior year bias. As someone who definitely does not, I see absolutely nothing that suggests Gross will win either the Big 10s or NC. The lack of shots is appalling. Might work may
Did Gross take even one more shot after the backpoints?

Hell he didn’t take a shot before the back points.
 
Heck of a performance for a Friday night away, the guys looked really good.

Appears Cenzo is a matchup nightmare for Wick.

Lee is stronger and better this year, feeling really good about his match with Pletch at this point.

So happy to see Verk get a quality win. Managing diabetes and cutting weight can't be easy.
 
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Gross against Nick Lee? Lee would kill him. I’ve not watched much of Gross before this year so perhaps others have a prior year bias. As someone who definitely does not, I see absolutely nothing that suggests Gross will win either the Big 10s or NC. The lack of shots is appalling. Might work may


Hell he didn’t take a shot before the back points.
I think he meant Gross vs. Spencer Lee at 57kg
 
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