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Question for Pitt Lurkers regarding Narduzzi

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Since, you seem fascinated about James Franklin and the results at PSU. I'd like your opinion on the final stats on the year.

During Paul Chryst's last year, Pitt had the youngest team in the country. They also did not have Jordan Whitehead or Juan Price. Pat Narduzzi inherited them. During Paul Chryst's last year, Matt House was the defensive coordinator and he was complained about to no end. So, lets look at the final stats for Narduzzi's D vs Matt House

Pat Narduzzi's D. Yards 4721 Yards per game 363.2 Points per game allowed 26.1
Matt House's D Yards 4677 Yards per game 359.8 Points per game allowed 26.3

So with more experienced players and inheriting his two best players on D Whitehead and Price, Pat Narduzz's defense accomplished basically the same as Matt House's Defense. In addition, Pitt's offense took a step backwards averaging 3 less yards per game and turning Boyd into a possession receiver.

You would think a defensive genius like Pat would be able to do more than Matt House did with more experienced and better players, Am i Right?
 
do you realize that they lost James Conner the first game of the season. results would have been much better............
 
do you realize that they lost James Conner the first game of the season. results would have been much better............

Sorry I forgot James Conner was set to play Defensive end this year! I bet House would have loved to have Jordan Whitehead and Price. Maybe his D could have got off the field even quicker and let Chryst's O have the ball more. Too bad Narduzzi couldn't get his D off the field.
 
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Guys, I appreciate the advice. This board is like no other internet resource. I feel like I can get a good, non-biased opinion from a huge cross section of society. I've gone through the school counselor previously and they wanted us to see a psychologist, which we did. I will investigate the neuropsychologist path. Thanks again!

Since, you seem fascinated about James Franklin and the results at PSU. I'd like your opinion on the final stats on the year.

During Paul Chryst's last year, Pitt had the youngest team in the country. They also did not have Jordan Whitehead or Juan Price. Pat Narduzzi inherited them. During Paul Chryst's last year, Matt House was the defensive coordinator and he was complained about to no end. So, lets look at the final stats for Narduzzi's D vs Matt House

Pat Narduzzi's D. Yards 4721 Yards per game 363.2 Points per game allowed 26.1
Matt House's D Yards 4677 Yards per game 359.8 Points per game allowed 26.3

So with more experienced players and inheriting his two best players on D Whitehead and Price, Pat Narduzz's defense accomplished basically the same as Matt House's Defense. In addition, Pitt's offense took a step backwards averaging 3 less yards per game and turning Boyd into a possession receiver.

You would think a defensive genius like Pat would be able to do more than Matt House did with more experienced and better players, Am i Right?

Stats don't mean anything when you look at them in a bubble, perhaps on an internet message board.

The Steelers pass D is awful but because they can create splash plays it isn't so bad.
 
This is area is polluted with suckers. Just threw the line in 15 minutes ago and already caught 3 big ones. Must just sit on this message board hitting refresh all day
 
House was a terrible as a DC. Anyone who watched the D saw the significant improvement in basic things. Pitt lacks talent defensively to be very good. The coming year there is an infusion in talent that will help shrink the deficit of physical talent. HCPC did a very good job in three areas, rebuilding the Oline, RB and adding discipline to the program. But his recruiting for defense was below the line. I suspect PSU will find Narduzzi and his defensive coaching a tough out starting next year. Narduzzi knows what he needs as to fit and talent.

Maybe you missed how many of the coaches during ESPN's program in the NC game kept asking Narduzzi what was happening defensively. Let me ask you nitters the same kind of question, what exactly is Franklin good at? Really what has he shown to be an expert or noted for as to coaching? He didn't beat anyone of substance at Vandy and clearly hasn't at PSU over 26 games. This is not the off season a coach should be having going into his third year. The cupcake schedule is behind him and now things will be more difficult going forward. Next year will see your team playing the very team you believe is inferior. We will see about that.
 
House was a terrible as a DC. Anyone who watched the D saw the significant improvement in basic things. Pitt lacks talent defensively to be very good. The coming year there is an infusion in talent that will help shrink the deficit of physical talent. HCPC did a very good job in three areas, rebuilding the Oline, RB and adding discipline to the program. But his recruiting for defense was below the line. I suspect PSU will find Narduzzi and his defensive coaching a tough out starting next year. Narduzzi knows what he needs as to fit and talent.

Maybe you missed how many of the coaches during ESPN's program in the NC game kept asking Narduzzi what was happening defensively. Let me ask you nitters the same kind of question, what exactly is Franklin good at? Really what has he shown to be an expert or noted for as to coaching? He didn't beat anyone of substance at Vandy and clearly hasn't at PSU over 26 games. This is not the off season a coach should be having going into his third year. The cupcake schedule is behind him and now things will be more difficult going forward. Next year will see your team playing the very team you believe is inferior. We will see about that.

You knew who else was getting asked a lot of questions...Will Muschamp. Check his head coaching record when he coached in the SEC east when it was down. I'm still waiting for Narduzzi's first big win. In fact, I'm waiting for the first time the game isn't over by halftime when he plays a team with a pulse. Pitt's D was gouged this year.
 
You knew who else was getting asked a lot of questions...Will Muschamp. Check his head coaching record when he coached in the SEC east when it was down. I'm still waiting for Narduzzi's first big win. In fact, I'm waiting for the first time the game isn't over by halftime when he plays a team with a pulse. Pitt's D was gouged this year.

The scheme was night and day compared to Matt House's defense and Narduzzi's. Our sacks also went from 19 in 2014 to 39. That is a huge jump in one year.

Also had about 33 more tackles for loss compared to 2014 which is another big jump.

We blocked five kicks this year compared to two in 2014.

We just don't have a ton of talent on defense other than Whitehead and Chryst's defensive recruiting didn't do us any favors.

We will continue to get better each year under Narduzzi as he gets more and more players to fit his scheme.
 
Since, you seem fascinated about James Franklin and the results at PSU. I'd like your opinion on the final stats on the year.

During Paul Chryst's last year, Pitt had the youngest team in the country. They also did not have Jordan Whitehead or Juan Price. Pat Narduzzi inherited them. During Paul Chryst's last year, Matt House was the defensive coordinator and he was complained about to no end. So, lets look at the final stats for Narduzzi's D vs Matt House

Pat Narduzzi's D. Yards 4721 Yards per game 363.2 Points per game allowed 26.1
Matt House's D Yards 4677 Yards per game 359.8 Points per game allowed 26.3

So with more experienced players and inheriting his two best players on D Whitehead and Price, Pat Narduzz's defense accomplished basically the same as Matt House's Defense. In addition, Pitt's offense took a step backwards averaging 3 less yards per game and turning Boyd into a possession receiver.

You would think a defensive genius like Pat would be able to do more than Matt House did with more experienced and better players, Am i Right?
The 2014 schedule was frankly much easier than the 2015 schedule, especially with the quality of offenses that Pitt faced.

The 2014 defense was passive and read-and-react. The 2015 defense was aggressive and attacked.

Pitt more than doubled the amount of sacks from 2014 to 2015. They greatly increased the number of takeaways. Against a tougher schedule.

In 2014... Pitt's opponents had far fewer plays per game and time of possession because the James Connor-led offense kept opposing offenses off the field. This year, the offense took a small step backwards (mainly because of Connor's injury, but also because Chaney was a disappointment as an OC), so the defense was on the field more. The yards per play is down this year by the defense... the plays for loss greatly went up.

Anybody watching could see the defense this year was a great improvement over last year. If you only look at yards, and don't watch the games, you wouldn't see it.
 
You guys are butt hurt the exodus out of Happy Valley may turn into college football's version of the Syrian refugee crisis. We get it - you need something to distract yourselves. See you in September!
 
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You knew who else was getting asked a lot of questions...Will Muschamp. Check his head coaching record when he coached in the SEC east when it was down. I'm still waiting for Narduzzi's first big win. In fact, I'm waiting for the first time the game isn't over by halftime when he plays a team with a pulse. Pitt's D was gouged this year.

The games you say were "over by halftime" bore a striking resemblance to the PSU-Georgia game. Pitt lost to UNC by 7, and had the ball with a chance to win (just like PSU against Georgia). Pitt lost to Miami by 5, and had the ball with a chance to win (just like PSU against Georgia). Pitt lost to Iowa on a 57-yard FG on the final play of the game.

The only two games that Pitt didn't have the ball with a chance to win in the 4th quarter were Notre Dame and Navy.

Pitt's win over Louisville is better than any win PSU had this season.

The arrow for Pitt is pointing upward. Talent-wise, the arrow for PSU is pointing upward also.. .but intangible-wise, the arrow is wavering or pointing downward for PSU right now.

Jimmy Franklin's seat is getting a little warm. Narduzzi's is not.
 
The games you say were "over by halftime" bore a striking resemblance to the PSU-Georgia game. Pitt lost to UNC by 7, and had the ball with a chance to win (just like PSU against Georgia). Pitt lost to Miami by 5, and had the ball with a chance to win (just like PSU against Georgia). Pitt lost to Iowa on a 57-yard FG on the final play of the game.

The only two games that Pitt didn't have the ball with a chance to win in the 4th quarter were Notre Dame and Navy.

Pitt's win over Louisville is better than any win PSU had this season.

The arrow for Pitt is pointing upward. Talent-wise, the arrow for PSU is pointing upward also.. .but intangible-wise, the arrow is wavering or pointing downward for PSU right now.

Jimmy Franklin's seat is getting a little warm. Narduzzi's is not.

How can the arrow for Pitt be pointed upward when your coach tried to get the Rugers job but was turned down in favor of Chris Ash? Expect Narduzzi to be on to another job after next year.
 
The 2014 schedule was frankly much easier than the 2015 schedule, especially with the quality of offenses that Pitt faced.

The 2014 defense was passive and read-and-react. The 2015 defense was aggressive and attacked.

Pitt more than doubled the amount of sacks from 2014 to 2015. They greatly increased the number of takeaways. Against a tougher schedule.

In 2014... Pitt's opponents had far fewer plays per game and time of possession because the James Connor-led offense kept opposing offenses off the field. This year, the offense took a small step backwards (mainly because of Connor's injury, but also because Chaney was a disappointment as an OC), so the defense was on the field more. The yards per play is down this year by the defense... the plays for loss greatly went up.

Anybody watching could see the defense this year was a great improvement over last year. If you only look at yards, and don't watch the games, you wouldn't see it.

Pitt played 2 or 3 games in Monsoons. 2 games against backup quarterbacks. Schedule looked difficult at the beginning, but when the entire division of your conference fires their head coach it wasn't very tough.
 
The games you say were "over by halftime" bore a striking resemblance to the PSU-Georgia game. Pitt lost to UNC by 7, and had the ball with a chance to win (just like PSU against Georgia). Pitt lost to Miami by 5, and had the ball with a chance to win (just like PSU against Georgia). Pitt lost to Iowa on a 57-yard FG on the final play of the game.

The only two games that Pitt didn't have the ball with a chance to win in the 4th quarter were Notre Dame and Navy.

Pitt's win over Louisville is better than any win PSU had this season.

The arrow for Pitt is pointing upward. Talent-wise, the arrow for PSU is pointing upward also.. .but intangible-wise, the arrow is wavering or pointing downward for PSU right now.

Jimmy Franklin's seat is getting a little warm. Narduzzi's is not.

His seat isn't warm because he isn't sitting in it...he is too busy trying to get a job elsewhere.
 
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How can the arrow for Pitt be pointed upward when your coach tried to get the Rugers job but was turned down in favor of Chris Ash? Expect Narduzzi to be on to another job after next year.
There's literally nothing true about what you posted.

It's been debunked thoroughly.
 
His seat isn't warm because he isn't sitting in it...he is too busy trying to get a job elsewhere.
James Franklin will be coaching somewhere other than PSU before Pat Narduzzi is coaching somewhere other than Pitt.

Bet me $100 to your favorite charity on it.
 
Pitt played 2 or 3 games in Monsoons. 2 games against backup quarterbacks. Schedule looked difficult at the beginning, but when the entire division of your conference fires their head coach it wasn't very tough.
When did Fedora, Cutliffe, Johnson, or Beamer get fired? Did I miss the news?

Golden and London are the only coaches in the Coastal that were fired.

I guess 2 out of 7 is "the entire division" according to mikemauti42 math.
 
When did Fedora, Cutliffe, Johnson, or Beamer get fired? Did I miss the news?

Golden and London are the only coaches in the Coastal that were fired.

I guess 2 out of 7 is "the entire division" according to mikemauti42 math.

My mistake....4 teams on your conference schedule removed their coaches(syr, Mia, Va, and yes VT wanted Beamer to hang it up).
 
James Franklin will be coaching somewhere other than PSU before Pat Narduzzi is coaching somewhere other than Pitt.

Bet me $100 to your favorite charity on it.

Sure. That's pretty brave talk from a stepping stone school.
 
James Franklin will be coaching somewhere other than PSU before Pat Narduzzi is coaching somewhere other than Pitt.

Bet me $100 to your favorite charity on it.

Never bet with UPitt'89, he has been proven a liar multiple times on boards in regards to Pitt and PSU's attendance with visual proof.

One shouldn't believe anything he posts.
 
House was a terrible as a DC. Anyone who watched the D saw the significant improvement in basic things. Pitt lacks talent defensively to be very good. The coming year there is an infusion in talent that will help shrink the deficit of physical talent. HCPC did a very good job in three areas, rebuilding the Oline, RB and adding discipline to the program. But his recruiting for defense was below the line. I suspect PSU will find Narduzzi and his defensive coaching a tough out starting next year. Narduzzi knows what he needs as to fit and talent.

Maybe you missed how many of the coaches during ESPN's program in the NC game kept asking Narduzzi what was happening defensively. Let me ask you nitters the same kind of question, what exactly is Franklin good at? Really what has he shown to be an expert or noted for as to coaching? He didn't beat anyone of substance at Vandy and clearly hasn't at PSU over 26 games. This is not the off season a coach should be having going into his third year. The cupcake schedule is behind him and now things will be more difficult going forward. Next year will see your team playing the very team you believe is inferior. We will see about that.

In what game(s) was Vandy under Franklin a favorite against a team of substance? I await your answer.
 
Never bet with UPitt'89, he has been proven a liar multiple times on boards in regards to Pitt and PSU's attendance with visual proof.

One shouldn't believe anything he posts.

I have my doubts he would pay up. Seems a little unbalanced mentally as much as he talks about Penn State.
 
Never bet with UPitt'89, he has been proven a liar multiple times on boards in regards to Pitt and PSU's attendance with visual proof.

One shouldn't believe anything he posts.

That's what I'd say too, if I was afraid of putting my money where my mouth was and losing the bet.

I'm guessing mikemauti42 has more courage of his convictions than you do and will accept the bet.
 
That's what I'd say too, if I was afraid of putting my money where my mouth was and losing the bet.

I'm guessing mikemauti42 has more courage of his convictions than you do and will accept the bet.

Oh I definitely think I'll win the bet and I'd like to double it and when Penn State goes into Heinz next year and beats Pitt that you will video yourself crying.
 
UPitt'89 spews lies that's all you need to know. No credit in him or anything he says.

I'll tell you what. We can have me and mikemauti both put our $100 in an account that you choose, if he trusts you. Then you can disperse it to the winner's favorite charity when one of the two coaches moves on.
 
Oh I definitely think I'll win the bet and I'd like to double it and when Penn State goes into Heinz next year and beats Pitt that you will video yourself crying.

So... $100 on which coach leaves first.... and another $100 on which team wins on 9/10/16?

You're on.
 
So you won't agree to hold the money is escrow for us?

Disappointing, but not surprising.
 
This game means the world to you. I cannot even imagine your reaction when Pitt loses. You would think by now you would know how well Pitt handles big games against teams with much more talent.
 
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There's literally nothing true about what you posted.

It's been debunked thoroughly.
No, it has not. The only debunking was Narduzzi himself saying it did not happen at a press conference. And coaches always tell the truth, right?

It happened and he will be gone after next season. Pitt is one of the very few P5 programs that does a great job of launching coaches to other P5 programs. And it always will..
 
This game means the world to you. I cannot even imagine your reaction when Pitt loses. You would think by now you would know how well Pitt handles big games against teams with much more talent.
So are you taking the bet(s) or not?
 
No, it has not. The only debunking was Narduzzi himself saying it did not happen at a press conference. And coaches always tell the truth, right?

It happened and he will be gone after next season. Pitt is one of the very few P5 programs that does a great job of launching coaches to other P5 programs. And it always will..

Since mikemauti42 is apparently waffling on whether to accept the bet, I'll make the same bet with you:

$100 to the winner's favorite charity. James Franklin will be coaching somewhere other than PSU before Pat Narduzzi is coaching somewhere other than Pitt.

Are any of you willing to put your money where your mouth is? I am.
 
In what game(s) was Vandy under Franklin a favorite against a team of substance? I await your answer.
Franklin did beat GA which was missing 9 starters but that is about it. You realize he hasn't won as a underdog yet
 
UPitt '89 said:
There's literally nothing true about what you posted.

It's been debunked thoroughly.

Yet you Pitt fans still spread lies about Paterno. What do you expect?
 
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