Rasheed
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No idea what he weighs but he looks like and wrestles like a full sized 197 to me. Sure hope he can stay healthy because he looks a legit podium threat come March.
He cuts for 97 not like he did for 165 or even 174 but he does have to lose some weight to make 197
Frankly, I admire the guy. He really took a beating, but went public to explain. More class than most...
https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threads/mat-chat-with-ref-mike-hagerty.170958/
NFL officials earn a nice second income making calls based on what they think they saw.
Should get the starting nod for 197. He dominated the scuffle. He seems really comfortable at this weight.
This post brought a huge smile to my face. Comfortable at the weight? After the Scuffle it just seems like an understatement.
Cael wanted him to answer the questions about his tank for this board???
"Oh man. He's going to make me sit Cassar, isn't he."
I think you have to start Rasheed. First place with 3 pins and a major over four top 20 guys can't be ignored, especially when you compare it to Cassar's results at the same event. A wrestle-off would serve no purpose at this point.
Worse, a wrestle-off is potentially counter productive. It's not about who is best in the room. It's about who will score more at nationals.
Assuming both are healthy, this seems like a straight forward decision. Throw out matches vs. guys with losing records, and here is what you have:
- Cassar: all decisions; losses to Hoffman and Holschlag
- Rasheed: 9 pins, 1 MD; losses to Darmstadt (who's 18-1) and Conel (who gave McIntosh fits at nationals).
If they have similar floors and ceilings, it's reasonable to think Rasheed will score 4-6 more bonus points at nationals.
The implosion part was sarcasm but it doesn’t change the fact that the ref completely missed the call .... also if you don’t think that who wrestlers are or venues or who are the coaches in the corner does not impacts calls (obviously stalling but even with falls) I’d say that’s a naive POV
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It sure looked like that was what he was thinking. Be interesting to see what happens in the upcoming duals. Unfortunately, until the tOSU dual we only face 1 team (Michigan) with a ranked 197.
Still, such a tough call.
Rasheed did everything he possibly could to earn the starting nod. I can't help but think AC would have a slightly better chance against the very top of the weight class--but it might just be memories of that Goliath of a dude gassing out when he weighed 30lbs lighter. I'm glad we're paying Cael pretty well, because this decision just sucks.
Rasheed did everything he possibly could to earn the starting nod. I can't help but think AC would have a slightly better chance against the very top of the weight class--but it might just be memories of that Goliath of a dude gassing out when he weighed 30lbs lighter. I'm glad we're paying Cael pretty well, because this decision just sucks.
Yeah. Also, Rasheed isn't going to answer any question in an upcoming dual that he didn't already answer when the relevant question is how he will perform in a tournament setting. I would think he believes Cassar can AA, but has to consider that if Rasheed can perform similarly and rack up bonus points, he's a better bet. How they perform against each other in the room and how Rasheed performs in duals isn't nearly as telling as how he performed this weekend when the only question is who is likely to deliver more points at Nationals. Glad it's not my question to answer.
When we talked to Rasheed after his win at the Scuffle, he touched briefly on his weight and his gas tank issues at 165. That interview is here (scroll down, they're in weight order): http://news.theopenmat.com/blog/2018/01/02/2018-southern-scuffle-interviews/
I enjoyed that interview. Rasheed comes across as a great teammate.
Thanks for those interviews! I also loved Rasheed's interview...his answer to why he never considered transferring was awesome. And, shockingly, he said that the coaches actually coach him up! Earth shattering news there. Add in VJ's humility and it was a very fun 
listening!
listening!
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I mentioned this in another thread. As I recall Rasheed was trying to certify at a lower weight in the preseason. It would surely affect his performance if he was at the same time involved in wrestle offs at 197.
It just seems to me that Cael now has a new set of data points that can't be ignored.
It just seems to me that Cael now has a new set of data points that can't be ignored.
Based on my understanding of the certification process that would not really matter. You don't need to cut weight to certify at a lower weight. Your certification weight is a calculation based on your weight at the time, body fat, and hydration level. So in theory, you should certify at the same weight no matter what you actually weigh at the time. Whether that is true in reality I have no clue.
Maybe he wasn't lifting much in the offseason, to try to keep his muscle mass lower. Otherwise it doesn't make much sense.
I saw that interview earlier and came away with a very favorable impression of Rasheed. I saw one last year and he came across exactly the same. In case someone doesn't look at the interview, in response to his weight now he said he was about 10 pounds under, but that might be after practice weight. He still looks lean for a guy that went up 32 pounds over the past 2 years! Seems like a real character in humble, friendly way.
Nolf, on what he would say to Nick Lee about the loss:
"... It sucks. And you don’t want to lose. No one wants to lose. You hate to lose. But it’s not really what matters in life."
Cael is training good kids goodly.
Interesting that he claims (after the tournament) that he was "about 10 pounds light". I think for the guys who are naturally quite lean that being able to eat a normal, quality diet is a huge benefit come tournament time. I haven't seen enough of Rasheed this season to know how he looks on top when he's not pinning you. Anyone have a reasoned opinion about what his mat wrestling abilities are, particularly versus Cassar or Cutch?
believe what you want. my experiences in officiating, which I'm pretty confident is significantly more than yours or most others on this board, is that the factors you mention have little to no impact on experienced refs.
wait ... you actually believe that Dan Gable yelling "stalling" while mat-side in Carver Hawkeye didnt impact an official.... seriously?
or the Perry/Evans National Semifinals match .... you dont think it was impacted by who it was and the situation (defensive pin & NCAA Semis or quarters) ?
i get that an official will never say it influences the calls but to think it doesnt,
yeah, im not going to agree with that
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I say this with great admiration...a forum member with 17 years longevity and 33 posts puts you in the top percentile of “Lurkers”.
I see “Lurking” btw as a lost art in which the participant listens (reads) more than he or she blabs (writes). There have been times when I have aspired to be a better lurker (read, keep my mouth shut), but sometimes lack the discipline. As a Lurker wannabe, I therefore write this to you whilst crowning you “King of the Lurkers”.
Yes, I believe that has been studied and is where most of the “home field advantage” in sports comes from. I hope all the referees out there have read these studies. Btw I admire the Zebras, that’s a tough job and it’s difficult to be perfect at all things at all times. I’m guessing the majority of folks who complain about them have never walked in those shoes.
im not saying its easy to be an official, but to say those factors have no impact is crazy IMO ... across all sports, not just wrestling
In the book Scorecasting, the author pretty much proved that the home team wins more because the referee tends to see plays the home team's way. Not intentional but more the result of human nature, this happens in every sport, especially with large crowds.
Definitely can see Gable getting a stall call in a large Carver-Hawkeye crowd. Same as I can see any prominent coach in any sport getting a call here and there.
Yes agreed - definitely has an impact. The worst scenario would be one where the ref is thinking he’s immune to such influence.
Carver Hawkeye has always brought some home cookin' no matter the official. Mike Allen was probably the worst. He might as well have worn a black and gold striped shirt.
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