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RBY still commited?

The word from the south side in the Five-Two-Oh, is that RBY is very solid on his commit to PSU, and looking forward to life in the PSU Wrestling Family...

It's all good.
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James Whitters says "ISU fans who dislike Cael resent what became of the ISU program after he left while Iowa fans hate him for building a dynasty to replace them".
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two good points
 
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James Whitters says "ISU fans who dislike Cael resent what became of the ISU program after he left while Iowa fans hate him for building a dynasty to replace them".

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the real reason they hate him, is because now, neither one of them is winning.
 
To me, most of the hate for Cael comes from Iowa, not Iowa State, but most of the hate for PENN STATE, comes from the little schools in the area who used to be great, but have been marginalized since Cael took over.
 
I think RBY is going to be a beast. I honestly think he has more upside and a higher ceiling than Teasdale.

I've been mulling this one over. My position is "who knows?". These two guys are about as even as can be coming in (thinking back to WNO 2015) and I think both guys will improve a lot in the Penn State room. I look forward to seeing them both in the lineup in a couple of years. It's going to be fun!
 
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I strongly agree johnstownsteel. Roman will be beating Gavin in the room after a week or so if that.....They are good friends and future teammates who will only make each other better...Plus they have a few GREAT lighter guys to make them both better...Both will be multiple National Champions under Cael and staff direction !!!! NO DOUBT....

Aah that's rich man. Before he flipped you were apologizing to Gavin for the whole state of PA for rooting for Desanto against Lee. Now that he's flipped you're already throwing him under the bus in the all important room matches. Nice.
 
Aah that's rich man. Before he flipped you were apologizing to Gavin for the whole state of PA for rooting for Desanto against Lee. Now that he's flipped you're already throwing him under the bus in the all important room matches. Nice.
BRANDS MADE HIM HATE WRESTLING BEFORE HIS SENIOR YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL !!!!

THEY'RE BOTH BEATING NICO IN THE ROOM !!!!
 
Aah that's rich man. Before he flipped you were apologizing to Gavin for the whole state of PA for rooting for Desanto against Lee. Now that he's flipped you're already throwing him under the bus in the all important room matches. Nice.

Speaking of Desanto, given his recent OW performance at Dapper Dan, is he the best and highest-ranked commit in Drexel history?
 
I don't know the answer to that but he's going to be my FAVORITE to ever wrestle for Drexel.

I really haven't seen Desanto listed as one of the top "national recruits" that projects to the 126/133 NCAA weight class.....have to disagree with the "national experts" here given his undefeated PIAA State Championship year and the results of his last two Folk matches against uber highly ranked "national prospects". Desanto's "national ranking" by the "national experts" is a little puzzling given his actual on-mat Folk results versus other top competition imho.... (i.e., he projects as high a "Folk" prospect at 126/133 as anybody else in this year's class based simply on "on-mat" results). Find it hard to believe that Drexel has ever landed a top national prospect at a weight-class like this ever before.
 
DeSanto jumped 23 spots in Intermat's latest rankings up to #14.

Yea, I saw that as one of Intermat's "feature stories", but couldn't read it as it was a "subscription only" article when I clicked on it. I assume he's probably moved way up FLO's and the other services P4P / Top Recruit rankings, which kind of begs the question I'm getting at.... Has he signed a LOI with Drexel already? If not, I'd be pretty surprised if other much higher ranked programs, including in-state programs such as Lehigh & Boro, are going after him pretty hard. Assuming he still has not signed an LOI, does anyone know if he's going to actually sign with Drexel or have any thoughts on the topic?
 
Aah that's rich man. Before he flipped you were apologizing to Gavin for the whole state of PA for rooting for Desanto against Lee. Now that he's flipped you're already throwing him under the bus in the all important room matches. Nice.
Hey I love both of them. Just think RBY may have a little higher ceiling. Heck who knows...Bottom line they are both in our family....
 
Yea, I saw that as one of Intermat's "feature stories", but couldn't read it as it was a "subscription only" article when I clicked on it. I assume he's probably moved way up FLO's and the other services P4P / Top Recruit rankings, which kind of begs the question I'm getting at.... Has he signed a LOI with Drexel already? If not, I'd be pretty surprised if other much higher ranked programs, including in-state programs such as Lehigh & Boro, are going after him pretty hard. Assuming he still has not signed an LOI, does anyone know if he's going to actually sign with Drexel or have any thoughts on the topic?

He's going to Drexel. He committed long before the early signing date, they have a terrific class coming in with Chandler Olson, Brian McLaughlin, Evan Barczak and him coming in. He's staying close to home.

Even if he hadn't signed he is staying close so that limits the options. Lehigh is loaded at the lower weights, and already signed Moran. And why in the world we he go to Edinboro, even if it wasn't so far, with Drexel on the table? No offense to anyone here who went there, but there is more to just wrestling when picking a school.

He had a great year, but he is going to a good spot for him. He's still got a lot to work on to become a top college wrestler - as most kids except the very blue chips do.
 
He's going to Drexel. He committed long before the early signing date, they have a terrific class coming in with Chandler Olson, Brian McLaughlin, Evan Barczak and him coming in. He's staying close to home.

Even if he hadn't signed he is staying close so that limits the options. Lehigh is loaded at the lower weights, and already signed Moran. And why in the world we he go to Edinboro, even if it wasn't so far, with Drexel on the table? No offense to anyone here who went there, but there is more to just wrestling when picking a school.

He had a great year, but he is going to a good spot for him. He's still got a lot to work on to become a top college wrestler - as most kids except the very blue chips do.

Seriously, you're confused as to why a top national and PA recruit would choose to wrestle at Edinboro rather than Drexel, when Edinboro has been a fairly consistent presence on the national rankings and has double-digit wrestlers who have achieved 4x, 3x or 2x AA status (and their former coach, now AD, is Olympic Wrestling Champion Bruce Baumgardner....and their current coach, Tim Flynn, had a very good career at PSU). Here is what Flynn has accomplished at the Boro - how anyone could say they can't don't understand why a prospect would be attracted to this success over that of Drexel is kind of hard to understand:

During his 17 years Flynn has produced 33 All-Americans and 128 national qualifiers, capped by Koscheck's national championship at 174 lbs. in 2001, Gillespie’s in 2007, and King’s in 2009. Koscheck became Edinboro's second all-time national champion at the Division I level, and with a third place finish in 2002, became Edinboro's first four-time All-American.
 
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Yea, I saw that as one of Intermat's "feature stories", but couldn't read it as it was a "subscription only" article when I clicked on it. I assume he's probably moved way up FLO's and the other services P4P / Top Recruit rankings, which kind of begs the question I'm getting at.... Has he signed a LOI with Drexel already? If not, I'd be pretty surprised if other much higher ranked programs, including in-state programs such as Lehigh & Boro, are going after him pretty hard. Assuming he still has not signed an LOI, does anyone know if he's going to actually sign with Drexel or have any thoughts on the topic?
"Did Austin DeSanto sign his NLI?" is the latest "Did Spencer Lee sign his?"
 
Seriously, you're confused as to why a top national and PA recruit would choose to wrestle at Edinboro rather than Drexel, when Edinboro has been a fairly consistent presence on the national rankings and has double-digit wrestlers who have achieved 4x, 3x or 2x AA status (and their former coach, now AD, is Olympic Wrestling Champion Bruce Baumgardner....and their current coach, Tim Flynn, had a very good career at PSU). Here is what Flynn has accomplished at the Boro - how anyone could say they can't don't understand why a prospect would be attracted to this success over that of Drexel is kind of hard to understand:

Because he might want a job outside of wrestling?

Drexel and Edinboro are much further apart academically than they are geographically.
 
"Did Austin DeSanto sign his NLI?" is the latest "Did Spencer Lee sign his?"

Huh? Honestly don't know if he did or not (I know for certain Lee did and I was one of the parties saying that and that there was zero chance he was going anywhere but Iowa at this point in the string discussing it -- you have me confused with someone else.). Beyond that, I'm in no way saying I hope he didn't OR wishing he goes to PSU as there is "no room for him at the inn" where he projects at PSU at this point with Teasdale, RBY, etc...using up scholie $$$ at those weights. Merely asking because if he has not signed an LOI, I would imagine that there are a lot of high profile national programs (both in-state and out-of-state) that would love to get him the way his stock has moved over the last couple months - personally, I think you have to rate him as among the top NCAA Folk prospects in this year's class at the 126/133 NCAA weight class. Again, I would think it would be hard for Drexel to hang onto him if he's not signed an LOI yet, but I admit that I have no idea if he has or not.....if I were in his shoes, no way would I roll the dice on Drexel's Coaching, I'd go to a higher profile program with proven coaching results and better facilities, but again this is why I was asking about his current status.
 
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I remember when Azevedo first started out at Drexel they got a kid named Gage Harrah from Illinois, he must have been a pretty high recruit. Was really good in HS but don't know if his ranking was higher Desanto, that said we didn't really hear a peep out of him in college.
 
I remember when Azevedo first started out at Drexel they got a kid named Gage Harrah from Illinois, he must have been a pretty high recruit. Was really good in HS but don't know if his ranking was higher Desanto, that said we didn't really hear a peep out of him in college.

I doubt he was higher as Desanto is now rated among the very top prospects at 126/133 (NCAA weight) and is rated among the top 15 prospects overall by many at this point - that is top-tier recruit for elite programs, it's a "wet dream" type recruit for a program like Drexel (although I assume they are giving him a "full ride" which is hard to get from the elite programs even if you're the absolute best-of-the-best prospect-wise.). Offering the full ride would be an advantage for Drexel because I'm not sure there are that many programs which will "match it" even as good as he is (i.e., IMO, if you're looking to build a program, you do it one wrestler at a time using your scholie money to get wrestlers that will allow you punch above your weight at a several weight classes while taking some flyers and attempting to get "diamond in the rough" locals at the other weights....if a coach wants to generate a consistent program, he has to get on the radar screen by generating AAs and Champions....).
 
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Because he might want a job outside of wrestling?

Drexel and Edinboro are much further apart academically than they are geographically.

Don't dispute that....but they are equally far apart in their Coaching Staffs' proven ability to develop talent and help you become an AA wrestler as well. Assuming Mr. Desanto is equally interested in getting a degree and furthering his wrestling career (including the potential to maybe go beyond just NCAA wrestling), the choice of Drexel is rather curious as you are rolling the dice on the "wrestling career" side which is not necessary to pursue all of your dreams and ambitions on both sides of the equation...
 
Seriously, you're confused as to why a top national and PA recruit would choose to wrestle at Edinboro rather than Drexel, when Edinboro has been a fairly consistent presence on the national rankings and has double-digit wrestlers who have achieved 4x, 3x or 2x AA status (and their former coach, now AD, is Olympic Wrestling Champion Bruce Baumgardner....and their current coach, Tim Flynn, had a very good career at PSU). Here is what Flynn has accomplished at the Boro - how anyone could say they can't don't understand why a prospect would be attracted to this success over that of Drexel is kind of hard to understand:
I'm not confused about anything. Suffice to say you would be hard pressed to find a recent recruit that picked an EWL school over ANY EIWA school. Better yet, you would be hard pressed to find many recruits that would have both EWL and EIWA schools among their final two or three.

We hang around PSU and Iowa and national message boards and it tends to give us a skewed view on the landscape of recruiting is. What holds true for a group of 10 to 15 programs bears little resemblance to the rest.

If you want a long winded view of the "segmentation" in wrestling recruiting feel free to pm me and i will trade emails with you. I currently consult for two D1 programs on a regular basis in regards to prospects and have also had recent first hand experience with the realities of D1 recruiting.
Despite his recent success and rise up the rankings Im not sure Austin would be considered one of the Uber-recruits of this year. And if he was he wouldn't be considering Edinboro. He is a top wrestler but he also has some things to work on and coaches look at 4 years of wrestling not just two weeks. I've seen him many times for 6 years. I would think he is viewed more of a Brian Courtney type recruit rather than a Spencer Lee.

And you can AA at Drexel. You have access to great partners with the RTC located there. But as a recent AA grad told me in regards to recruiting - "you can AA anywhere, you really can." Decisions for most are about education, finances and comfort with the coaching staff.
 
Don't dispute that....but they are equally far apart in their Coaching Staffs' proven ability to develop talent and help you become an AA wrestler as well. Assuming Mr. Desanto is equally interested in getting a degree and furthering his wrestling career (including the potential to maybe go beyond just NCAA wrestling), the choice of Drexel is rather curious as you are rolling the dice on the "wrestling career" side which is not necessary to pursue all of your dreams and ambitions on both sides of the equation...
I didn't say get a degree, I said get a job outside wrestling. Anybody can get a degree at Edinboro -- seriously, the schools has a 99% admissions rate. If you want a career, go to Drexel. If you want both, go to Drexel, because the gap in wrestling is much smaller than the gap in education and professional development.

It's only a "curious" choice if one is focused on wrestling to the exclusion of academics.
 
I didn't say get a degree, I said get a job outside wrestling. Anybody can get a degree at Edinboro -- seriously, the schools has a 99% admissions rate. If you want a career, go to Drexel. If you want both, go to Drexel, because the gap in wrestling is much smaller than the gap in education and professional development.

It's only a "curious" choice if one is focused on wrestling to the exclusion of academics.

I know all about Boro - I'm from Erie originally.... Never said his only choices were Boro or Drexel, nor did I even mean to imply that. What I'm implying is that the kid is good enough and a high enough ranked wrestler to draw significant interest from much better wrestling programs than Drexel - he's good enough to go to some of the best wrestling programs in the country (including multiple programs in the B1G, B12, Pac12, etc...). His risk in choosing Drexel, regardless of whether you like the sound of it, is on the wrestling side of his dreams (i.e., a proven Coaching staff with better facilities could potentially take him further and there's a significant risk that he goes nowhere at Drexel due to lack of development). Each choice is personal to the prospect, but if his dreams on the wrestling side of things are every bit as important to him as the academic choice, I still say Drexel is a curious choice given his recruiting profile and ranking.
 
Hello guys,
First post here, but I have been reading this forum for awhile now. I currently attend Drexel University. But I have to agree with El-Jefe here. There is a lot more to recruiting than just choosing the "best" wrestling team that is recruiting you. Im guessing austin feels that overall, Drexel > any other school.
 
I know all about Boro - I'm from Erie originally.... Never said his only choices were Boro or Drexel, nor did I even mean to imply that. What I'm implying is that the kid is good enough and a high enough ranked wrestler to draw significant interest from much better wrestling programs than Drexel - he's good enough to go to some of the best wrestling programs in the country (including multiple programs in the B1G, B12, Pac12, etc...). His risk in choosing Drexel, regardless of whether you like the sound of it, is on the wrestling side of his dreams (i.e., a proven Coaching staff with better facilities could potentially take him further and there's a significant risk that he goes nowhere at Drexel due to lack of development). Each choice is personal to the prospect, but if his dreams on the wrestling side of things are every bit as important to him as the academic choice, I still say Drexel is a curious choice given his recruiting profile and ranking.
Brandon Slay, 2000 Gold Medalist wrestled for Penn. If you are good enough, you can develop anywhere.

At this point DeSanto is probably too far into the process to go else where....Mentally he is set on Drexel and the kings of college wrestling long ago set their priorities. If he had beaten Spencer Lee in 2016, it would have opened up a lot more recruiting opportunities for him.
 
Brandon Slay, 2000 Gold Medalist wrestled for Penn. If you are good enough, you can develop anywhere.

At this point DeSanto is probably too far into the process to go else where....Mentally he is set on Drexel and the kings of college wrestling long ago set their priorities. If he had beaten Spencer Lee in 2016, it would have opened up a lot more recruiting opportunities for him.

In all fairness to Drexel, Penn, when Brandon Slay was there, was a much better program than Drexel is today. More than one national champ and quite a few title contenders were at Penn during that time period. The slide of the program to its current, weak level is a disappointment.
 
In all fairness to Drexel, Penn, when Brandon Slay was there, was a much better program than Drexel is today. More than one national champ and quite a few title contenders were at Penn during that time period. The slide of the program to its current, weak level is a disappointment.

Yep, that was my original point.... This kid has shown some pretty remarkable upside potential of late (including his last two, highly-publicized Folk matches). He's pretty much rolling the dice in regards to Drexel on the wrestling-side of the equation, which isn't necessary to achieve both of his goals (best chance to maximize his wrestling and academic career opportunities -- wrestling for a program like Stanford, as a for instance, not saying they expressed interest. Anyway, there are endless examples I could give of great schools academically that have better trackrecords in regards to developing "world-class wrestlers" than Drexel.). In any event, maybe it is an "honor" thing with Mr. Desanto - he's sticking by Drexel now that "he's arrived", because Drexel took the risk on him and stuck by him before the notoriety.... If so, more power to Mr. Desanto and a very admirable reason for his decision to stick by "the girl that brung 'ya to the dance" versus a Johnny Come Lately who is telling you everything they want to do for you....but is really only interested because of what you can do for them.
 
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You should all probably listen to Diceman on this one as he is the most plugged in to the SEPA scene

Drexel/Penn are both great choices for any D1 Wrestler
 
Yep, that was my original point.... This kid has shown some pretty remarkable upside potential of late (including his last two, highly-publicized Folk matches). He's pretty much rolling the dice in regards to Drexel on the wrestling-side of the equation, which isn't necessary to achieve both of his goals (best chance to maximize his wrestling and academic career opportunities -- wrestling for a program like Stanford, as a for instance, not saying they expressed interest. Anyway, there are endless examples I could give of great schools academically that have better trackrecords in regards to developing "world-class wrestlers" than Drexel.). In any event, maybe it is an "honor" thing with Mr. Desanto - he's sticking by Drexel now that "he's arrived", because Drexel took the risk on him and stuck by him before the notoriety.... If so, more power to Mr. Desanto and a very admirable reason for his decision to stick by "the girl that brung 'ya to the dance" versus a Johnny Come Lately who is telling you everything they want to do for you....but is really only interested because of what you can do for them.
Do you understand what a National Letter of Intent is? Asking because this post reads as if the answer is no.
 
Do you understand what a National Letter of Intent is? Asking because this post reads as if the answer is no.

Sure do, but as I pointed out early on, have no idea if signed an LOI....obviously it makes a big difference if he did, which was my original question.

Either way, as his senior season progressed, his stock was rising (he was undefeated his Jr. year except for the loss to Lee in the Finals, so I'm sure choices became available fairly early on) -- again, if his primary deciding factor thoughout was the maintenance of his "commitment" and "word", it's admirable to maintain his commitment and I'm definitely a big fan.... Hope he climbs and conquers the mountain - easy guy to root for!
 
Sure do, but as I pointed out early on, have no idea if signed an LOI....obviously it makes a big difference if he did, which was my original question.

Either way, as his senior season progressed, his stock was rising (he was undefeated his Jr. year except for the loss to Lee in the Finals, so I'm sure choices became available fairly early on) -- again, if his primary deciding factor thoughout was the maintenance of his "commitment" and "word", it's admirable to maintain his commitment and I'm definitely a big fan.... Hope he climbs and conquers the mountain - easy guy to root for!

From a December article in the Reading Eagle:

"I really like Drexel," DeSanto said. "It's pretty neat. I was pretty set on them."

So set, in fact, that DeSanto said he really didn't consider going anywhere else. Although he went to Penn State and Ohio State to work out with college wrestlers, DeSanto said he made his only official visit to Drexel before signing a letter of intent.

After meeting head coach Matt Azevedo and his staff, DeSanto said he didn't feel there was a need to go anywhere else.

DeSanto also weighed Drexel's academic reputation and the sports management program, in which he is leaning toward making his major.

"Those guys are just amazing," DeSanto said.
 
From a December article in the Reading Eagle:

"I really like Drexel," DeSanto said. "It's pretty neat. I was pretty set on them."

So set, in fact, that DeSanto said he really didn't consider going anywhere else. Although he went to Penn State and Ohio State to work out with college wrestlers, DeSanto said he made his only official visit to Drexel before signing a letter of intent.

After meeting head coach Matt Azevedo and his staff, DeSanto said he didn't feel there was a need to go anywhere else.

DeSanto also weighed Drexel's academic reputation and the sports management program, in which he is leaning toward making his major.

"Those guys are just amazing," DeSanto said.
I look forward to college ADs being more Austin DeSanto types and no Trev Alberts types.
 
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