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recent Wikileaks on the CIA

Gubbermint had better not watch/listen to me while viewing PSU football. They might get offended!
 
My Wikileaks source tells me the CIA hacked into the Lair and couldn't find any intelligence.
But they did find the Pitt posters masturbating each other

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Anything that can connect to the internet can be hacked and monitored. It's that simple.
 
It's interesting how the pendulum swings. 8 years or so ago, certain public loved Wikileaks and others hated them because they leaked info about GWBush, Cheney, Halliburton, and the Iraq War.

Last summer, everybody switched sides because Wikileaks released info about Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and the DNC. If you applauded them before, you were appalled now. So I guess Wikileaks will go on as long as people are OK with information being hacked and released, as long as it's about the side they don't like.
 
It's interesting how the pendulum swings. 8 years or so ago, certain public loved Wikileaks and others hated them because they leaked info about GWBush, Cheney, Halliburton, and the Iraq War.

Last summer, everybody switched sides because Wikileaks released info about Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and the DNC. If you applauded them before, you were appalled now. So I guess Wikileaks will go on as long as people are OK with information being hacked and released, as long as it's about the side they don't like.
Distinction to be made is that Assange isn't a hacker. Also, the assumption that the information he disseminates has been "hacked" isn't really all that true. Often it is given to him freely - for one reason or another (Thus the name Wikileaks and not Wikihacks).
 
I don't lose a wink of sleep over CIA monitoring my activities. It's mandate is monitoring foreign bad guys, which could spill over to collaborative US citizens. I'm not one of them. The poster who cited commercial product technology monitoring of your buying habits and other activities is spot on. For example, I and my family just returned from a ski trip to Vail, and Google notified my son how far he had skied that week. It followed his movements on the slopes presumably through GPS. While this might disturb some, it is kind of cool to get this feedback.

I think the main gripe is that people's constitutional rights (right to privacy from the govt) can be unilaterally violated by the CIA/NSA/etc. without any sort of due process, court order, etc..Fisa, who needs a Fisa when we can utilize all these back doors we had built into everything! (TIC)

That's at least what the "leaker" was trying to draw attention to via their comments to Wikileaks. I've also seen similar sentiments from other internal intelligence community leakers. They don't like the fact that the alphabet agencies can operate outside of the Constitution and govt system of checks and balances. When congress asks the intel community about something they can always say "sorry, you guys don't have the clearance, next question".

I could personally care less if the CIA wanted to monitor my boring ass life but I can definitely see other's point of view of not being down with the whole "big brother" Orwellian setup....which can be a slippery slope.
 
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How much time does the US Govt actually have to spy on people like us? There is no value or upside to it at all.

Unless youre laundering money/scheming the IRS, building homemade bombs, or holding someone hostage, you're not on anyone's radar.

Hack my laptop and watch me railing my gf at night? Sure. Enjoy the show!
 
In this case I don't really see the problem. I want the CIA to be able to listen through a computer, phone, or tv into every conversation by a drug lord in Columbia, terrorist group in the Middle East, nut job dictator in North Korea or Iran, or any government official in Russia, China, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Pakistan, etc.

If they can find out key info without putting lives at risk it's a win-win. It's their job to find ways to do this.

Now, of course, the entire planet is warned what the CIA (and others) can do and the bad guys will adjust their behavior accordingly- making intelligence agencies jobs much more difficult.

Meanwhile, the same groups that are up in arms about the CIA's new abilities are usually the same groups that bitch the loudest about the CIA every time there is an intelligence failure.

You got that right!!
 
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If I ran the CIA there would be a standing kill order on Julian Assange. IMO he is as dangerous as the terrorists we are searching for.

The Agencies know what he has and they know he is smart enough to have a kill switch which releases everything if he doesn't log in to prevent it periodically. They can get to anybody when they want to and proved it more than once.
 
I have more of a problem with my next door neighbor looking at me than the Govt.

That's the other issue here if all of this is true, due to the back doors/vulnerabilities the CIA supposedly had Microsoft, Google, Apple, Samsung, et. al. build into their products, ANYONE could hack into them if they were smart enough to figure out what the CIA already knew.
 
This just in...according to TIME

http://time.com/4696405/wikileaks-cia-contractors-documents-source/?xid=homepage

The source of most Wikileaks regarding the NSA/CIA are private IT contractors most notably the venerable firm of Booze, Allen, Hamilton.

Let that sink in for a few moments. Remember the hue and outcry to outsource federal jobs? "Contractors do it better, faster, CHEAPER?" They conveniently forgot about security and loyalty.

Well, there you have it.

To add to this thought, do you know who conducts a large portion of, if not the majority of, the background investigations that are conducted on people that need security clearances...contractors. So contractors are investigating contractors.
 
Private contractors. The dirty little secret is that many high security functions have been farmed out to the private sector. Even the functions that are the most inherentantly governmental...

A "Rollerball-like" corporate dystopia.
"preserve, protect and defend" has become "plunder and pillage for profit"

we're revisiting the fall of Rome
 
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This just in...according to TIME

http://time.com/4696405/wikileaks-cia-contractors-documents-source/?xid=homepage

The source of most Wikileaks regarding the NSA/CIA are private IT contractors most notably the venerable firm of Booze, Allen, Hamilton.

Let that sink in for a few moments. Remember the deafening "hue and cry" to outsource federal jobs? "Contractors do it better, faster, CHEAPER?" Somehow, the countless policy papers from CATO and Heritage conveniently forgot to mention the downside risks.

Well, there you have it.
Most of the contractors supporting NSA/CIA are former government workers and they go to work for whatever company wins the contract. They just rebadge them to the new company when the contract changes hands.
 
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Most of the contractors supporting NSA/CIA are former government workers and they go to work for whatever company wins the contract. They just rebadge them to the new company when the contract changes hands.

Yes. This is very true. Also, the background investigation industry (yes, it is an industry) is a mess. The companies that do BI's for the govt. get paid when a case closes. So the only way for these companies to increase revenue is to close more investigations, which means that the investigators in the field have to work as fast as possible. The more "items" they complete in a month, the more cases they help to close, the more money the company makes. To make sure everyone is working as fast as possible, the investigators have quotas they have to hit every month, akin to a sales person having a monthly quota. And these are BI's on people that need very high level security clearances. THAT is how F'd the whole process is.

Want to hear something even worse: Private equity owns most of, if not all of, these companies. And we all know private equity's overarching goal is to make a company as profitable as possible (i.e. make as much money as possible) so they can either take the company public or sell it for a healthy profit. That may be okay when you're making air conditioners or cars, but that has no place in what are investigations that directly impact national security.

Sleep well tonight everyone. :confused:
 
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Most of the contractors supporting NSA/CIA are former government workers and they go to work for whatever company wins the contract. They just rebadge them to the new company when the contract changes hands.

Similar progression with PennDOT personal. Early retirement, become employed by engineering consultant firms, for their government connections to secure contracts. The large downside of the double dipping is less hiring from the civilian employment pool of workers.
 
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