the season is not over. Forget it and move on.
Regardless of the outcome We took a hosing from these officials
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With all of the zebra issues we were still down 1 score with the ball at midfield on our last possession vs the unquestioned #1 team in the country.
Two unfortunate face masks and the personal foul on 71 had to be called and were on us.
We can play with anybody- gotta WIN one or two games at least to get the flow going and who knows...
Two unfortunate face masks and the personal foul on 71 had to be called and were on us.
We can play with anybody- gotta WIN one or two games at least to get the flow going and who knows...
James just can’t win these big games… erase the board and let’s start all over again. PSU vs. Tennessee at the Beav on 12/21 at noon.
While the holding by the Oregon OL was constant and blatant, I'll give them those non-calls without complaining (to be fair and so nobody can claim I'm a homer). Let's call it the "let them play" rule. But there were multiple calls and non-calls which not only made no sense, they would appear to prove that "the fix was in" and I've NEVER suggested something like that publicly on a forum. I'm not sure about the personal foul on the kickoff because I didn't see the replay, but was there ANYTHING there to call? I think the most blatant and obvious call was the Evans catch that mysteriously was called back AFTER it was called a catch on the field and spotted as a first down with no apparent review. How/why can they arbitrarily pick up the ball and march backwards and call it an incomplete pass when the call on the field was a legal catch (and the replays obviously confirmed that it WAS a legal catch)? Then you have the 49 yard touchdown where Gabriel was close to the LOS (I personally don't think he crossed it, but don't know what the rule is when you're in the air when you release the ball and your feet land past the LOS), but you CLEARLY had an OL downfield and there is clearly a line judge who is watching it. I don't recall down and distance on that play and perhaps Oregon would have still scored, but an obvious penalty and loss of down at midfield would have clearly benefitted PSU. Then you had the VERY obvious push off by their Tight end on 4th and 2. Obviously if it was called, that could have changed the outcome. Finally, you have the "fair catch". The replay seems to show the PSU receiver making an adjustment to the ball in the air and he waves his hand to keep his balance. His hand never went above the shoulder pads and even if it was close, the play should have been called dead and PSU should have been flagged for trying to return the ball. Obviously neither of those things happened. You have one ref who is watching the receiver and has been tasked with determining if a fair catch was called and he never whistled the play dead, nor did any of the other officials until after he was 30 yards downfield and out of bounds. They called that back because the Oregon HC complained and for no other reason at all. You also have the dead ball call where Allar was getting mugged well after several whistles were blown. On this one, again, I'll give you the "let them play" rule, but nobody would have thought a personal foul call there was unjustified. And even with all of these patently obvious calls/non-calls, I don't remember one very obvious penalty that PSU got away with or even one ticky tacky call that went against Oregon.
Anyone who claims that PSU benefitted as much as Oregon from the officiating has their heads up their butts and like many other posters on this thread, I don't complain about these things week in and week out.
Anyone who claims that PSU benefitted as much as Oregon from the officiating has their heads up their butts and like many other posters on this thread, I don't complain about these things week in and week out.
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I thought that clown disappeared and died. I hope he stays away. He’s had some of the dumbest takes here.
The officiating in the first half was merely average by Big Ten standards, which means they just didn't call many penalties.
It's important to understand that Big Ten refs typically "let 'em play." But what that means in none good old boy nonsense, plain English is "let 'em commit penalties that ruin the game."
The second half .... jeez. Oregon's first TD was mostly legit and we're down 38-24. Oh, wait, no, it wasn't mostly legit because Oregon had no fewer than 3 offensive linemen 5 yards downfield. Now, maybe Oregon scores anyway after that 10 yard penalty, but probably not.
The missed field goal I blame 100% on the refs. That was a dirty, stupid play by Boettcher to throw Allar down. That, especially with the penalty they called correctly on Vega way earlier, was a penalty. That's anywhere from 3-7 but most likely points they stole from us. This possession alone ties the game.
Oregon's last touchdown was 100 percent BULLSHIT. On the play where Gabriel fumbled and recovered it himself, Abdul Carter was being held BY THE FACEMASK. LOL! It was so blatant it was comical. That should have been 1st and 25 at the Oregon 10. They aren't scoring on that drive. And, of course, this drive was so full of Oregon uncalled holdings it was honestly just malfeasance by the refs.
Finally, you can complain about the play call, but Wallace got a step on his DB, and the DB responded by holding him by the collar, and instead of an obvious DPI we get a phony INT.
So, yes, Penn State outgained Oregon, had better yards per play whatever, but got royally screwed by bad officiating in the second half. And it should be noted that Oregon may not have scored a point in the second half if the game had been officiated correctly.
It's important to understand that Big Ten refs typically "let 'em play." But what that means in none good old boy nonsense, plain English is "let 'em commit penalties that ruin the game."
The second half .... jeez. Oregon's first TD was mostly legit and we're down 38-24. Oh, wait, no, it wasn't mostly legit because Oregon had no fewer than 3 offensive linemen 5 yards downfield. Now, maybe Oregon scores anyway after that 10 yard penalty, but probably not.
The missed field goal I blame 100% on the refs. That was a dirty, stupid play by Boettcher to throw Allar down. That, especially with the penalty they called correctly on Vega way earlier, was a penalty. That's anywhere from 3-7 but most likely points they stole from us. This possession alone ties the game.
Oregon's last touchdown was 100 percent BULLSHIT. On the play where Gabriel fumbled and recovered it himself, Abdul Carter was being held BY THE FACEMASK. LOL! It was so blatant it was comical. That should have been 1st and 25 at the Oregon 10. They aren't scoring on that drive. And, of course, this drive was so full of Oregon uncalled holdings it was honestly just malfeasance by the refs.
Finally, you can complain about the play call, but Wallace got a step on his DB, and the DB responded by holding him by the collar, and instead of an obvious DPI we get a phony INT.
So, yes, Penn State outgained Oregon, had better yards per play whatever, but got royally screwed by bad officiating in the second half. And it should be noted that Oregon may not have scored a point in the second half if the game had been officiated correctly.
Amazingly, I forgot about the OPI by Ferguson because I was more fixated on the fact that Oregon should have been driven back into 1st or 2nd and long to start that drive by some EGREGIOUS no-calls. Again, on the first play, Abdul was held by the damn facemask!!
But, yes, while they let it go in the stupid-ass Big Ten with their terrible refs, that was OPI by Ferguson. Especially considering that it's apparently okay for them to hold Tre Wallace by the collar and pick the ball.
I'm trying to be fair, so I discount SOME of the non-calls against Oregon for holding, I guess I can discount the non-call on the late hit(s) on Allar and I also think the DPI against Wallace late was an OK non-call (while the defender was grabbing Wallace's collar, he wasn't obviously pulling on him), but there were some REALLY egregious calls and non-calls in this game and even if you were an Oregon fan, you'd have to acknowledge them.
I hate this league with a passion. If this isn't the game that shows there should not be "league officials" instead of the nfl model. I don't know what is. Just like the Iowa game long ago when Hoe basically forced college football to start using instant replay. This stinking league can't even get that right. Then, the officials let Oregon talk them into the "fair catch signal" when nobody in the booth thought so. Ridiculous, and Kraft should be preparing his arguments for the league office.
Krafty has no pull with the Conference. It’s all O$U and scUM with Oregon and all their $$$.
Anyone who doesn't understand that PS is always going to get hosed in games like that lack common sense. Yes, it is a damn conspiracy and everyone knows where it tracks back to. The power two control everything in the Big Ten. The same crew that hosed us in the OSU game multiple times.
Fun fact I just learned: the officiating crew in the Big Ten Championship Game was the exact same crew from the Penn State-Ohio State game.
Why not invite Sam Lickliter back to call a Penn State-Indiana basketball game just for nostalgia?
Why not invite Sam Lickliter back to call a Penn State-Indiana basketball game just for nostalgia?
It’s over. We’ll see Oregon for the big trophy. It’s time James to erase it all and make a run. You have a very favorable draw to get to the championship. SMU, Boise, Georgia…. It’s time, James, to shut them up..
Push off that was blatantly obvious as it was a full arm extension shove at the base of his down-&-in cut that launched Ferguson into his cut and the PSU defender in the diametric opposite direction. It doesn't get any more obvious than that.
To be honest, after looking at it more closely, I probably wouldn't have called that one.
But it kinda doesn't really matter because on a 2nd and 12 way back on the Oregon side on that drive, the Ducks egregiously held Carter, which should have forced 2nd and 22, but got away with it.
And I do mean egregious.
In general, Big Ten refs swallow their whistles. If you look up the statistics on penalties per game, Big Ten teams are usually at the bottom.
But this Kole Knueppel Klown Krew is far and away the worst, most biased crew in the conference. They don't call holding *at all* and if they're the crew for a Penn State game, bend over, here it comes again.
But this Kole Knueppel Klown Krew is far and away the worst, most biased crew in the conference. They don't call holding *at all* and if they're the crew for a Penn State game, bend over, here it comes again.
That is correct. Officiating crews will be drawn from conferences whose teams are not playing in the particular games so we're done with Big Suck zebras this year.
Thank God...
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