Agreed LaJolla. Some fans act like a 24-5 run is a disaster. They have already forgotten what it’s like to be embarrassed 63-14 by OSU.
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I’m not discrediting Paterno....I was a huge Paterno fan. I’m just saying playing an independent schedule is a lot easier than playing a conference schedule and I remember a lot of games against Boston College, Syracuse, Temple, WVU, Rutgers and quite a few other teams that weren’t exactly world beaters.He'll use what he can to discredit Paterno. This apparently is the agenda. The Big Ten in those days was certainly no juggernaut. And he conveniently leaves out from that period the Orange Bowl wins over two Big Eight champions, the pummeling of Texas in the Cotton Bowl, and a win over LSU, also in the Orange Bowl. Certainly a flawed resume there.
None of the conferences in the 60s, 70s, or 80s had a murderer's row of "world beaters." As someone accurately pointed out, for years the Big Ten was Michigan, Ohio State, and a bunch of nobodies. The Big 8 back then was Oklahoma and Nebraska, and a bunch of nobodies. The Pac 8 was USC, UCLA, and a bunch of nobodies. The Southwest was Texas, maybe Arkansas, and a bunch of nobodies. Etc., etc., etc.I’m not discrediting Paterno....I was a huge Paterno fan. I’m just saying playing an independent schedule is a lot easier than playing a conference schedule and I remember a lot of games against Boston College, Syracuse, Temple, WVU, Rutgers and quite a few other teams that weren’t exactly world beaters.
Sounds pretty similar to what fans of other conferences still think of the Big 10. Maybe it seemed easy because we weren’t playing in it. Funny how tough it got once we joined it. Playing in Conference is harder regardless of the Conference.None of the conferences in the 60s, 70s, or 80s had a murderer's row of "world beaters." As someone accurately pointed out, for years the Big Ten was Michigan, Ohio State, and a bunch of nobodies. The Big 8 back then was Oklahoma and Nebraska, and a bunch of nobodies. The Pac 8 was USC, UCLA, and a bunch of nobodies. The Southwest was Texas, maybe Arkansas, and a bunch of nobodies. Etc., etc., etc.
Basically, the top 2 teams in those conferences beat up on patsies, and then the winner of "the game" in each conference got massive TV coverage and was pronounced "worthy." PSU's schedule was just as tough as their schedules but lacked a conference. Funny how Joe amassed such a great bowl game record during those years despite the alleged weakness of Eastern football and PSU's schedule . . .
Agreed LaJolla. Some fans act like a 24-5 run is a disaster. They have already forgotten what it’s like to be embarrassed 63-14 by OSU.
Yeah, it was real tough. We ran the table and won the Rose Bowl in 1994. That hadn't been done by any team since 1968.Sounds pretty similar to what fans of other conferences still think of the Big 10. Maybe it seemed easy because we weren’t playing in it. Funny how tough it got once we joined it. Playing in Conference is harder regardless of the Conference.
We didn’t run the table in ‘93 or since ‘94....so it got better immediately after we went undefeated. Got it.Yeah, it was real tough. We ran the table and won the Rose Bowl in 1994. That hadn't been done by any team since 1968.
and we have done it how many times since?Yeah, it was real tough. We ran the table and won the Rose Bowl in 1994. That hadn't been done by any team since 1968.
I didn’t realize Trace McSorley and Saquon Barkley were someone else’s players. Almost the entire roster over the past two and a half seasons has been players that Franklin signed and developed. The only exceptions are Hamilton, Sickels, Gaia, Mahon, the Cothraens, and maybe one or two that I’m missing.Well his schtick is overachieving with other people's players, so I guess now he's going to have to prove it wasn't a fluke. Like next year.
And it's only 24 years ago too.and we have done it how many times since?
Exactly. Who wants to lose like that?That Michigan '16 game was sickening. We had zero ability to win that game on that day. I don't want to lose like that again.
what?I'd rather get blown out like they did at Michigan in 2016 than lose the way they have in the 5 games since.
That's totally fair. I feel the same way, but it wouldn't have happened on an annual basis. That's all. Undefeated, untied seasons and victories over the PAC 10 champion would have been very difficult. PSU, on occasion, had the teams to do it though. Of course, we'll never know. What we do know is that PSU has played football in this conference since 1993 and as of the end of this season it will have only happened once for PSU. I realize the automatic tie-in with the Rose Bowl no longer exists, but the fact remains that PSU only has had one undefeated regular season since it joined the conference. PSU was oh so close twice more. In both cases, they lost to Big Ten teams.Believe what you want. Use Joe's declining years, the dark years, and the sanctions years as "proof" that the Big Ten was a tough conference in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. I'll stick with PSU's bowl record in the ACTUAL years we're talking about, and the Big Ten's embarrassing record in the Rose Bowl, etc. during those ACTUAL years.
what?
Sounds pretty similar to what fans of other conferences still think of the Big 10. Maybe it seemed easy because we weren’t playing in it. Funny how tough it got once we joined it. Playing in Conference is harder regardless of the Conference.
It's never ever good to get blown out like we did vs UM in 2016.I'd rather get blown out like they did at Michigan in 2016 than lose the way they have in the 5 games since. When you have a lead with 5:00 to go in the 4th quarter of the 5 games you've lost since that Michigan debacle, it's a ton more frustrating than if a team just comes out and is better than they are for the majority of the game.
Some people here seem to remember a time when PSU was a perennial top 4-5 team, winning a natty every other year or so, and going undefeated on a regular basis. I was lucky enough to be an undergrad during what was probably the best four year run we EVER had, 1968-1972, and even THAT
wasn't as good as some of you seem to think things were-or should be.
Hell, Nick Saban's record wouldn't satisfy some of you. I suggest remembering where we were in 2012, and compare that to where we are now.
These kids and this staff are working their asses off- give them some support instead of throwing bags of flaming dogshit.