Replays of Controversial Moments?

[Football79Dude]

In a shocking twist of fate, there were numerous controversial referee decisions in the Penn State-Ohio State game. Unfortunately, most of us don’t have access to an entire replay of the game or clips of non-broadcasted angles to revisit some of those calls. Does anyone have clips of the following moments?

Liam Clifford potentially being interfered with on third down.

Audio of the personal foul. Was anything said that might have justified that penalty?

The Harrison Wallace possible catch ruled incomplete.

Luke Reynolds (I think it was) potentially getting held and interfered with on a third down pass.

The spots on the fateful goal-line stand. I think at least one of the spots was about 3/4 of a yard short of where Keytron Allen (I think) actually moved the ball.

The fourth down attempt to Dinkins. I’ve only been able to find the main broadcast angle, which is pretty far zoomed out and doesn’t show whether Downs was wrapping Dinkins up on the other side of his body or not.

Any blatant holds on Ohio State that weren’t called, including possibly their final first down.

Any times when Penn State might have gotten away with something they shouldn’t have.

This isn’t meant to be an exhaustive list or meant to prove anything. It’s just a request for information so that we can have a more informed discussion in the future. Note that I didn’t mention the fumble outside of the end zone or Ohio State’s near fumble in the open field, since those plays are included in most of the highlight packages and have had multiple angles shown.

Thanks!

 

[crm114psu]

That game was one of the better called games I've watched this season. What they got wrong on the field they corrected with replay.

PSU was consistently beaten in every aspect of that game, including coaching.

 

[mgkpsu]

In a shocking twist of fate, there were numerous controversial referee decisions in the Penn State-Ohio State game. Unfortunately, most of us don’t have access to an entire replay of the game or clips of non-broadcasted angles to revisit some of those calls. Does anyone have clips of the following moments?

Liam Clifford potentially being interfered with on third down.

Audio of the personal foul. Was anything said that might have justified that penalty?

The Harrison Wallace possible catch ruled incomplete.

Luke Reynolds (I think it was) potentially getting held and interfered with on a third down pass.

The spots on the fateful goal-line stand. I think at least one of the spots was about 3/4 of a yard short of where Keytron Allen (I think) actually moved the ball.

The fourth down attempt to Dinkins. I’ve only been able to find the main broadcast angle, which is pretty far zoomed out and doesn’t show whether Downs was wrapping Dinkins up on the other side of his body or not.

Any blatant holds on Ohio State that weren’t called, including possibly their final first down.

Any times when Penn State might have gotten away with something they shouldn’t have.

This isn’t meant to be an exhaustive list or meant to prove anything. It’s just a request for information so that we can have a more informed discussion in the future. Note that I didn’t mention the fumble outside of the end zone or Ohio State’s near fumble in the open field, since those plays are included in most of the highlight packages and have had multiple angles shown.

Thanks!

WR #4 was setting NBA Power Forward quality picks, and our 11 was getting his neck and jersey pulled all day, and even got group hugged on a second half drive.

Honestly our coaches should probably tell the OLine and DBacks to grab and pull anything they can get their hands on from here on out, if for nothing more than to get some hypocrisy on tape. Big 10 officiating has been at best extremely inconsistent in most years, and especially this season.

 

[NittanyIllinois]

WR #4 was setting NBA Power Forward quality picks, and our 11 was getting his neck and jersey pulled all day, and even got group hugged on a second half drive.

Honestly our coaches should probably tell the OLine and DBacks to grab and pull anything they can get their hands on from here on out, if for nothing more than to get some hypocrisy on tape. Big 10 officiating has been at best extremely inconsistent in most years, and especially this season.

Our DBs have consistently grabbed and yanked OSU's WRs -- that wouldn't be new. Joey Porter and Kalen King both were practically. hanging off of Marvin Harrison Jr. in the 2022 and 2023 games.

Our biggest play in last year's game was a ~30 yard pass to Theo Johnson in which our OL (may have been Fashanu) blatantly tackled Tuimoloao before he could get to Allar, and it wasn't called.

OSU's DBs -- especially #1 -- are very grabby. But let's be honest -- our DBs have been like that for the past several years.

 

[MacNit2.0]

In a shocking twist of fate, there were numerous controversial referee decisions in the Penn State-Ohio State game. Unfortunately, most of us don’t have access to an entire replay of the game or clips of non-broadcasted angles to revisit some of those calls. Does anyone have clips of the following moments?

Liam Clifford potentially being interfered with on third down.

Audio of the personal foul. Was anything said that might have justified that penalty?

The Harrison Wallace possible catch ruled incomplete.

Luke Reynolds (I think it was) potentially getting held and interfered with on a third down pass.

The spots on the fateful goal-line stand. I think at least one of the spots was about 3/4 of a yard short of where Keytron Allen (I think) actually moved the ball.

The fourth down attempt to Dinkins. I’ve only been able to find the main broadcast angle, which is pretty far zoomed out and doesn’t show whether Downs was wrapping Dinkins up on the other side of his body or not.

Any blatant holds on Ohio State that weren’t called, including possibly their final first down.

Any times when Penn State might have gotten away with something they shouldn’t have.

This isn’t meant to be an exhaustive list or meant to prove anything. It’s just a request for information so that we can have a more informed discussion in the future. Note that I didn’t mention the fumble outside of the end zone or Ohio State’s near fumble in the open field, since those plays are included in most of the highlight packages and have had multiple angles shown.

Thanks!

We were screwed. That will happen every Big10 game…has been that way for 30 years…has gotten worse post-Sandusky.

 

[Football79Dude]

“Letting them play.”

 

[Football79Dude]

Our DBs have consistently grabbed and yanked OSU's WRs -- that wouldn't be new. Joey Porter and Kalen King both were practically. hanging off of Marvin Harrison Jr. in the 2022 and 2023 games.

Our biggest play in last year's game was a ~30 yard pass to Theo Johnson in which our OL (may have been Fashanu) blatantly tackled Tuimoloao before he could get to Allar, and it wasn't called.

OSU's DBs -- especially #1 -- are very grabby. But let's be honest -- our DBs have been like that for the past several years.

Examples like these are welcome. They provide a logical counterargument, unlike when people change the subject to bad coaching or whatever. Do you have any clips of the aforementioned plays?

 

[NittanyIllinois]

Examples like these are welcome. They provide a logical counterargument, unlike when people change the subject to bad coaching or whatever. Do you have any clips of the aforementioned plays?

The 2:25 mark here shows the takedown on Tuimoloau. That basically led to 3 points for us. You'll see the various grabs against Harrison Jr. throughout the video, too. If you're gonna grab a dude, at least prevent the catch. King couldn't even do that. Probably shouldn't have ran his mouth before that game. Very similar to the 2022 game with Joey Porter on Harrison. Porter was very, very physical with him, and the refs let them play. Which is good, because they should.

 

[Football79Dude]

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The 2:25 mark here shows the takedown on Tuimoloau. That basically led to 3 points for us. You'll see the various grabs against Harrison Jr. throughout the video, too. If you're gonna grab a dude, at least prevent the catch. King couldn't even do that. Probably shouldn't have ran his mouth before that game. Very similar to the 2022 game with Joey Porter on Harrison. Porter was very, very physical with him, and the refs let them play. Which is good, because they should.

Fair point on Tuimoloau being held.

On that highlight reel, I noticed Harrison being held twice - during his first catch and during his third catch. It wasn’t called the first time, but was the third. Of course, plays where he is being grabbed don’t usually make for highlight material, so there could be examples not shown. But I noticed he was running quite freely to get open on his other receptions.

The most impactful defensive holding call, which overturned a touchdown, wasn’t shown on the highlight reel. So, including that one, Penn State was flagged at least twice while covering him last year.

On the flip side, DDS was arguably being held on the scoop and score play, and on Harrison’s touchdown play, their left tackle clearly jumped early. As Harrison’s touchdown was on a 3rd and 11 play, the no-call allows a touchdown to stand, instead of rightfully putting OSU in a 3rd and 16 situation.

From that highlight reel, PSU got away with a defensive hold on a play where Harrison made the catch anyway and got away with a hold on a chunk yardage play. Weighed against that, the scoop and score was overturned, OSU might have gotten away with holding DDS, and Ohio State’s final touchdown shouldn’t have stood due to a false start. Advantage: OSU. Not that you were arguing the relative advantages last year, but I think it’s good to review the material you posted.

 

[Football79Dude]

This was helpfully posted on YouTube.

7:35 is the play where Clifford got held.

9:32 is the unsportsmanlike conduct call. Looks even softer when the play first happens. No audio to hear if anything was said.

12:33 is pass play to Wallace that may or may not have been complete.

15:44 is the Howard fumble play.

18:14 is the play where Reynolds got mugged.

30:30 is the play where Judkins was originally ruled to have fumbled.

34:20 starts the four down sequence near the goal line. The refs seemed to have marked Allen short of where he actually gained after 1st and 2nd downs. On 4th down, we don’t get a clear view of how much contact Downs’ right hand had on Dinkins, though it’s clear enough that Wallace was getting held.

I’m not going to bother looking for all the missed holding calls, push offs, or pick plays on OSU’s offense - that’s a research project too large for one person.

 

[Lion_Backer]

In a shocking twist of fate, there were numerous controversial referee decisions in the Penn State-Ohio State game. Unfortunately, most of us don’t have access to an entire replay of the game or clips of non-broadcasted angles to revisit some of those calls. Does anyone have clips of the following moments?

Liam Clifford potentially being interfered with on third down.

Audio of the personal foul. Was anything said that might have justified that penalty?

The Harrison Wallace possible catch ruled incomplete.

Luke Reynolds (I think it was) potentially getting held and interfered with on a third down pass.

The spots on the fateful goal-line stand. I think at least one of the spots was about 3/4 of a yard short of where Keytron Allen (I think) actually moved the ball.

The fourth down attempt to Dinkins. I’ve only been able to find the main broadcast angle, which is pretty far zoomed out and doesn’t show whether Downs was wrapping Dinkins up on the other side of his body or not.

Any blatant holds on Ohio State that weren’t called, including possibly their final first down.

Any times when Penn State might have gotten away with something they shouldn’t have.

This isn’t meant to be an exhaustive list or meant to prove anything. It’s just a request for information so that we can have a more informed discussion in the future. Note that I didn’t mention the fumble outside of the end zone or Ohio State’s near fumble in the open field, since those plays are included in most of the highlight packages and have had multiple angles shown.

Thanks!

I have many of the same questions that you stated in your post above.

It's almost like during certain plays they went back to 80's - 90's broadcast approach where they showed the viewer a wide angle view of the play and the results of the play are as reported. No replay provided and a replay of the initial angle would provide no clarification.
My DVR was useless....

They provided no additional views of certain plays therefore there was no opportunity to legitimately question the veracity of the calls or spots. I thought that it was just me, but apparently others noticed the same thing.

Perhaps Coach Canduiti(?) who does analysis of our games and apparently has access to video replay feeds from multiple angles.

Hopefully he can provide some insight and clarification on some of these questions.

Also, we were watching some of the Pitt vs SMU game. Right before the half of their game, the Pitt QB was sacked. The SMU DL hops up and steps /stomps right over top of the QB.

No penalty was called.

 

[wilbury]

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This was helpfully posted on YouTube.

7:35 is the play where Clifford got held.

9:32 is the unsportsmanlike conduct call. Looks even softer when the play first happens. No audio to hear if anything was said.

12:33 is pass play to Wallace that may or may not have been complete.

15:44 is the Howard fumble play.

18:14 is the play where Reynolds got mugged.

30:30 is the play where Judkins was originally ruled to have fumbled.

34:20 starts the four down sequence near the goal line. The refs seemed to have marked Allen short of where he actually gained after 1st and 2nd downs. On 4th down, we don’t get a clear view of how much contact Downs’ right hand had on Dinkins, though it’s clear enough that Wallace was getting held.

I’m not going to bother looking for all the missed holding calls, push offs, or pick plays on OSU’s offense - that’s a research project too large for one person.

I'll save you some trouble -

Clifford held - yes and interfered with. Happens all the time just didn't get called.

Unsportsmanlike - 80% of the time that doesn't get called there. The worst call of the day.

Wallace play - incomplete

Howard fumble - correct reversal - but to be fair, how do they know it didn't go out at the 1 yard line?

Reynolds - same as Clifford play

Judkins - clearly incomplete

Goal line - if you want to complain about anything, complain about the original spot of Warren down at the 3. Otherwise, it's all fine.

Never going to get that call vs. Dinkins - triple coverage, fighting for the ball, no need to call interference.

 

[Lion_Backer]

I'll save you some trouble -

Clifford held - yes and interfered with. Happens all the time just didn't get called.

Unsportsmanlike - 80% of the time that doesn't get called there. The worst call of the day.

Wallace play - incomplete

Howard fumble - correct reversal - but to be fair, how do they know it didn't go out at the 1 yard line?

Reynolds - same as Clifford play

Judkins - clearly incomplete

Goal line - if you want to complain about anything, complain about the original spot of Warren down at the 3. Otherwise, it's all fine.

Never going to get that call vs. Dinkins - triple coverage, fighting for the ball, no need to call interference.

Were you a traveling Wilbury and these are your comments based on the view from your seats at the game?

 

[Football79Dude]

I have many of the same questions that you stated in your post above.

It's almost like during certain plays they went back to 80's - 90's broadcast approach where they showed the viewer a wide angle view of the play and the results of the play are as reported. No replay provided and a replay of the initial angle would provide no clarification.
My DVR was useless....

They provided no additional views of certain plays therefore there was no opportunity to legitimately question the veracity of the calls or spots. I thought that it was just me, but apparently others noticed the same thing.

Perhaps Coach Canduiti(?) who does analysis of our games and apparently has access to video replay feeds from multiple angles.

Hopefully he can provide some insight and clarification on some of these questions.

Also, we were watching some of the Pitt vs SMU game. Right before the half of their game, the Pitt QB was sacked. The SMU DL hops up and steps /stomps right over top of the QB.

No penalty was called.

The lack of other angles on the 4th down play was bizarre. The producers did show Clifford getting mugged, so it’s not like they were told to completely hide everything that made officials look bad. I suppose it’s possible that the producers were instructed not to try to “show up” the refs by exposing their mistakes on crucial plays, and they just didn’t feel like the Clifford mugging wasn’t crucial enough. Not a very satisfying explanation, though.

Yes, hope Coach Codutti or someone else has alternative angles out there.

 

[Football79Dude]

I'll save you some trouble -

Clifford held - yes and interfered with. Happens all the time just didn't get called.

Unsportsmanlike - 80% of the time that doesn't get called there. The worst call of the day.

Wallace play - incomplete

Howard fumble - correct reversal - but to be fair, how do they know it didn't go out at the 1 yard line?

Reynolds - same as Clifford play

Judkins - clearly incomplete

Goal line - if you want to complain about anything, complain about the original spot of Warren down at the 3. Otherwise, it's all fine.

Never going to get that call vs. Dinkins - triple coverage, fighting for the ball, no need to call interference.

On the Howard reversal, you could mentally draw a straight line from where the ball hit his thigh and where the ball landed and figure out that it must have went over the pylon. I wasn’t sure if that would be considered sufficient evidence, but I’m thankful that the booth got that one right.

I don't necessarily disagree with the Harrison incompletion and Judkins incompletion reviews. I think Harrison’s was about 50-50 and the Judkins call was probably correct.

I think Warren was correctly called out on the 3. If you slow it down enough at 34:18, you can see his foot out of bounds with the ball in his left arm held near his body at about the 3.

 

[AWS1022]

I'll save you some trouble -

Clifford held - yes and interfered with. Happens all the time just didn't get called.

Unsportsmanlike - 80% of the time that doesn't get called there. The worst call of the day.

Wallace play - incomplete

Howard fumble - correct reversal - but to be fair, how do they know it didn't go out at the 1 yard line?

Reynolds - same as Clifford play

Judkins - clearly incomplete

Goal line - if you want to complain about anything, complain about the original spot of Warren down at the 3. Otherwise, it's all fine.

Never going to get that call vs. Dinkins - triple coverage, fighting for the ball, no need to call interference.

Clearly incomplete? Except the announcers and the rules expert said there wasn’t enough to overturn it, so it was far from clear….same as the Wallace incomplete pass, wasn’t enough to overturn it.

 

[Chris92]

Never going to get that call vs. Dinkins - triple coverage, fighting for the ball, no need to call interference.

You can see the ball just past tOSU's #6 and it hasn't arrived yet to Dinkins. Where's Caleb Downs' left arm? Wrapped around Dinkins' back and he's bodied up to him.

 

[Waltwam]

That game was one of the better called games I've watched this season. What they got wrong on the field they corrected with replay.

PSU was consistently beaten in every aspect of that game, including coaching.

Too bad they couldn't replay PI calls.

 

[wilbury]

Were you a traveling Wilbury and these are your comments based on the view from your seats at the game?

During my game from the seats, I though the Wallace pass was complete. Watching replays after the game you can see that it hit the ground.

That Howard fumble is tough. Ref's aren't supposed to be drawing 'mental' lines. Is there clear evidence or not? I think it went into the end zone but there's no way to know from those angles.

Judkins - the backside angle clearly shows the ball loose the whole time. Not a single person within 10' of me in the stadium questioned the call once the replay was shown on the big screen. It's even more obvious now that I've had time to look at TV footage.

Warren's foot goes out at the 3 so that can't be where the ball is.

Could have called Downs for holding and PI but they're both fighting for position. Never a high chance you'll get that call.

 

[JWB389]

Our DBs have consistently grabbed and yanked OSU's WRs -- that wouldn't be new. Joey Porter and Kalen King both were practically. hanging off of Marvin Harrison Jr. in the 2022 and 2023 games.

Our biggest play in last year's game was a ~30 yard pass to Theo Johnson in which our OL (may have been Fashanu) blatantly tackled Tuimoloao before he could get to Allar, and it wasn't called.

OSU's DBs -- especially #1 -- are very grabby. But let's be honest -- our DBs have been like that for the past several years.

I hate the way pass interference is called now. It’s completely subjective. I think that detracts from the game.

Same with holding. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, at least the holding rule is the same in the NFL as in college. It’s just called completely different. Someone mentioned Carter getting clotheslined on every play. That gets flagged every time in the NFL, so it’s relatively rare.

I’m sure it does balance out, but it leaves some much doubt in the minds of fans. It gives the appearance of biased officiating to the losing team.

 

[PSU2UNC]

That game was one of the better called games I've watched this season. What they got wrong on the field they corrected with replay.

PSU was consistently beaten in every aspect of that game, including coaching.

I suggest you watch again.

The refs consistently missed (or ignored) both offensive holding (mostly against PSU's DE) on OSU as well as defensive holding by their secondary. While PSU's WR are not world beaters, there is a reason they weren't open often -- they were being held ALL DAY. And the taunting call was atrocious, especially given the taunting that OSU was doing all day. Either call it on everyone or give Washington a warning. Ridiculous to call that in that situation in that game.

Additionally, the replay booth had a rough day. They got the Howard fumble right (after bailing out the refs who made a HORRIBLE call) but Judkins' fumble reversal was the wrong call, the Wallace catch overturn was wrong. And I still actually think the INT in the endzone was wrong (or at least not enough to overturn). Wallace still had his hand on the ball, which was moving, when the OSU defender had possession AND Wallace was OOB while touching the ball, which makes the play incomplete. Amazing effort by the OSU defender, but not enough video evidence to overturn the call on the field.

 

[PSU2UNC]

During my game from the seats, I though the Wallace pass was complete. Watching replays after the game you can see that it hit the ground.

That Howard fumble is tough. Ref's aren't supposed to be drawing 'mental' lines. Is there clear evidence or not? I think it went into the end zone but there's no way to know from those angles.

Judkins - the backside angle clearly shows the ball loose the whole time. Not a single person within 10' of me in the stadium questioned the call once the replay was shown on the big screen. It's even more obvious now that I've had time to look at TV footage.

Warren's foot goes out at the 3 so that can't be where the ball is.

Could have called Downs for holding and PI but they're both fighting for position. Never a high chance you'll get that call.

They ball can hit the ground so long as the player has control. The replay showed the ball hitting the ground but did not rule out the player having control. Therefore the call on the field should stand.

The replay officials can piece together mulitple angles to make a ruling. So yes, they can interpolate.

Judkins had control of the ball, turned and took a step. That's football move and a fumble.

On the game deciding play you have to throw a flag there for interference that blatant.

 

[Chris92]

Could have called Downs for holding and PI but they're both fighting for position. Never a high chance you'll get that call.

Anthony Scirotta disagrees. The PI call against him in IC with little to no contact was insane.

 

[Football79Dude]

You can see the ball just past tOSU's #6 and it hasn't arrived yet to Dinkins. Where's Caleb Downs' left arm? Wrapped around Dinkins' back and he's bodied up to him.

What is the blotch of white around Dinkins’ left arm pit? Is it the glove on Downs’ right hand, Dinkins’ undershirt or tape, or something else?

 

[Football79Dude]

I hate the way pass interference is called now. It’s completely subjective. I think that detracts from the game.

Same with holding. Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, at least the holding rule is the same in the NFL as in college. It’s just called completely different. Someone mentioned Carter getting clotheslined on every play. That gets flagged every time in the NFL, so it’s relatively rare.

I’m sure it does balance out, but it leaves some much doubt in the minds of fans. It gives the appearance of biased officiating to the losing team.

At 7:06 of the video, we can watch our defensive line coach learn that the Big Ten has its own rules for holding.

 

[Football79Dude]

Has Tengwall said where he’s getting this footage?

Looks like quite a bit of grabbing going on, but it’s possible that Tengwall is cherry picking the worst instances of it.

 

[psrurock]

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Has Tengwall said where he’s getting this footage?

Looks like quite a bit of grabbing going on, but it’s possible that Tengwall is cherry picking the worst instances of it.

It doesn't matter, this much contact this far down field wasn't called all game. Let them play, that's code for selective enforcement of rules. Warren couldn't get away from 2 all game.

 

[bono47]

One question I have is why wasn't OSU flagged for PI on interception at half? DB did not have head turned around and had hands up. Same exact call OSU got against Miami years ago. Wasn't even considered by commentators.

 

[PSU4U]

We were screwed. That will happen every Big10 game…has been that way for 30 years…has gotten worse post-Sandusky.

There is nothing new under the sun.

 

[Waltwam]

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At 7:06 of the video, we can watch our defensive line coach learn that the Big Ten has its own rules for holding.

Absolutely right. The rule is Ohio State never holds, Penn State holds on successful plays!

 

[mgkpsu]

One question I have is why wasn't OSU flagged for PI on interception at half? DB did not have head turned around and had hands up. Same exact call OSU got against Miami years ago. Wasn't even considered by commentators.

2 penalties for 15 yards: 1 was a hold on a punt after Clifford was interfered with, and 1 offsides when we completed a pass to Singleton. It's almost like they called a few just to mitigate any suspicion, but the stadium camera crew was not shy about putting examples of 11 being held on the jumbotron during commercials.

I just don't understand how both the RB fumble call and the endzone interception could both go against us, since they both related to questions of possession. And Wallace initially had possession going out of bounds, and had it wrestled away while falling, so why it wouldn't be ruled an out of bounds incompletion is beyond me.

 

[lazydave841]

Has Tengwall said where he’s getting this footage?

I don't think it's ever been stated, but it appears to be PSU All 22 footage.

 

[Waltwam]

2 penalties for 15 yards: 1 was a hold on a punt after Clifford was interfered with, and 1 offsides when we completed a pass to Singleton. It's almost like they called a few just to mitigate any suspicion, but the stadium camera crew was not shy about putting examples of 11 being held on the jumbotron during commercials.

I just don't understand how both the RB fumble call and the endzone interception could both go against us, since they both related to questions of possession. And Wallace initially had possession going out of bounds, and had it wrestled away while falling, so why it wouldn't be ruled an out of bounds incompletion is beyond me.

I am watching the chiefs-Tampa Bay game. Terrible non call on holding the rusher for the Bucs. Next possession, Mayfield does a successful QB draw, they call holding on TB! It's the same in the pros for certain teams.

 

[MacNit2.0]

I suggest you watch again.

The refs consistently missed (or ignored) both offensive holding (mostly against PSU's DE) on OSU as well as defensive holding by their secondary. While PSU's WR are not world beaters, there is a reason they weren't open often -- they were being held ALL DAY. And the taunting call was atrocious, especially given the taunting that OSU was doing all day. Either call it on everyone or give Washington a warning. Ridiculous to call that in that situation in that game.

Additionally, the replay booth had a rough day. They got the Howard fumble right (after bailing out the refs who made a HORRIBLE call) but Judkins' fumble reversal was the wrong call, the Wallace catch overturn was wrong. And I still actually think the INT in the endzone was wrong (or at least not enough to overturn). Wallace still had his hand on the ball, which was moving, when the OSU defender had possession AND Wallace was OOB while touching the ball, which makes the play incomplete. Amazing effort by the OSU defender, but not enough video evidence to overturn the call on the field.

Great summary…and demonstrates how just a few calls can tip the balance in an evenly matched game.

Of course, this has been happening for 30 years…so this should not be shocking to anyone!

 

[KCLion]

Too bad they couldn't replay PI calls.

We didn’t throw enough bottles on the field to get a PI reveiwed.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

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Has Tengwall said where he’s getting this footage?

Looks like quite a bit of grabbing going on, but it’s possible that Tengwall is cherry picking the worst instances of it.

It is not cherry picked. There is a whole game of straight up holding of receivers going on even a few tackles going on down field. It is farcical.