Basketball REPORT: Micah Shrewsberry considerd a leading candidate for Big East opening
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Maybe if she said conservative students were indeed welcome at PSU consevative alums might start contributing again.
For those that don't remember, Barron made it quite clear that conservative students were not welcome when he deleted that welcome to them.
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yep
i remember people saying this 25 years ago and probably before that
they were mostly created because it was a challenge for students to get to state college during the great depression
pretty sure men's basketball does not lose money and has not for a very long time
Not sure if they make money or lose money but either way, itās not a big profit or loss I would assume. Nothing like womenās basketball is for sure.
i think they consistently generate a surplus of a few million per year. something like 3 million in surplus. and thats with nobody going to games. there's a lot of upside there
I have the PDF. I believe it's 6 pages long. A lot more smoozing than what was reported by WJACTV.
PSU has not aligned with many alumni. From the way they treated Joe and continue to do so, to working to obliterate the Greek system, which many alums have significant ties to, to working to be so damn woke. PSU is so far down my list of organizations I'll support. The exception is Thon.
Will they have to cut back on.equity and inclusion garbage and pronoun indoctrination.
$3M Would not even pay for a top head coach. Won 20 games this year and nobody went to games. Where is the upside?
I don't agree with everything you say but will say I do not donate to PSU. At all. I don't buy tickets directly from PSU. I cancelled my participation in the endowment I started nor will until Joe's statue is back where it belongs, Joe's name is returned to its proper place in Penn State lore and the way Joe's players were treated after his passing is made right.
PSU has a $4.610 BILLION endowment fund. What is it used for, bragging rights?
I hope they did not have an interest in SVB or Signature.
they already pay him $2 milllion and have the surplus
almost every coach in the big ten makes around $3.5 million, there is not a big range other than izzo
they can obviosuly do it
and if psu lets him get away after two seasons, then **** them.
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At the February BOT meeting, the trustees voted to allow ESG investing for the university's endowment funds. This basically means they can now use environmental, social, governance criteria (read progressive left agenda) for deciding how to invest. Prior to this, they were obligated to invest to maximize return for a given risk profile.
ESG investing is highly controversial - many states are taking measures to limit it. Taking tax-free donated funds and using them to promote a political agenda is highly unethical and a violation of fiduciary responsibility. I have been a donor to PSU for years but no more. All current and prospective donors need to be aware of how their funds will be invested. This is indefensible.
Mens basketball does make a profit, though itās almost entirely due to revenues from the conference (TV and NCAA tournament payouts).
That being said, there is money there to spend more on the hoops HC position (and other team coaches) if desired. And basketball absolutely has the upside of being able to generate more revenue from tickets/concessions as well as merchandise if the team is consistently good/popular.
who cares if it is from tv and the conference? it is there and they have the ability to keep him
now we will find out if they care enough
What is the upside? Izzo made $6 million and had LESS wins. PSU had the most wins in the B10 of any team without a 7'4 center.
They can do it but why would they do it? Will you donate more money? Will the fans go to more games?
Sure if you are counting the B1G tournament for that win total...but in the regular season they didn't have the most wins of any team without Edey. And, Izzo earns his money as he has a tournament team every yr...it's the chicken and the egg theory...who knows what leads to what, but PSU's previous/current way of doing things isn't enough -- from an investment and buy-in standpoint for hoops. Hopefully Kraft changes that.
I don't get his point at all. Let's pick the one time in 25 years that Izzo had less wins in the conference (which isn't even correct, by the regular season), and say that means there is no upside and it's not worth it. Also nobody is saying to pay the coach what Izzo makes.
I know...a one-year sample size is nonsensical to use for a discussion like this.
the thought crossed my mind
georgetown may have inquired but i guarantee they will just hire a big name
however if ND really has interest, they might actually know more about him having spent most of his career in Indiana. I think there is a non-zero chance he leaves if they have significant interest, especially if PSU goes into penny-pincher mode
We already have Shrewsbury. Where are the fans?
PSU already has Shrewsbury and 22 wins. Where are the fans? How many more wins does it take to fill the seats?
Shrewsbury is probably not going to be the level of izzo. Izzo probably would not fill the seats here. The real problem is the fan support. That is why coaches don't waste their time trying to build a mid majors into to powerhouse. They know there are a lot of other variables.
He has been here 2 years and the fans showed up much better than in recent yrs...the novel idea of actually moving the students behind the bench helped, lol. PSU did well at home this year -- in some part b/c it wasn't a graveyard this season. Voltz, you are basing your arguments on such a short timespan. And, it's not like this was a tournament bound team after the regular season...they werent. Nobody is expecting an Izzo type coach to come here, nor probably get paid what Tom does....but that type of guy wouldn't go to most programs. I'm confident Shrews will stay....will he make sure this is a reload trending upward, and not a rebuild, that is a huge question mark. But, the overall premise and idea that PSU's problems are only exclusive to them is asinine and abjectively dumb...For a university of our size, alumni base, athletic resources, to not have made the tournament over the last 12 years is reprehensible and embarrassing. To me, AT WORST, it should be every three years. If you finish middle of the pack, and sometimes low middle, (like we did this year), you are in the dance. It isn't that hard.
We need to do whatever we can to keep Micah. He's a master of the transfer portal and add in his success with recruiting is really the guy we need. The guy seems to know how to coach as well.
Before I dump a ton of money I would like to see close to a repeat performance next year. He does it again next year then give him what he wants. But donāt empty the vault on one good year.
If he has a repeat performance next year then he should be coach of the year nationally. Everyone knows this team will take a bit of a step back next year with all of the senior losses. If they are over 500 with so many young kids playing it will be a good year. They year after that, he should get back to the tourney.
He deserves a significant bump now, I'd say 2M more a year for the program, he gets a raise, his coaches get one and more money in his budget to recruit/etc. Hopefully NIL can help the kids too
I understand this point and typically agree with it but when it comes to Penn State and basketball you probably have to gamble to keep him based on one good year. See Michigan State and Tucker.
Step, is there any possibility that BJC could undergo a major renovation to make it much more bball centric (i.e, fans closer to court) or is the admin reluctant to change it from a mult-use venue? Your thoughts please on a ball park figure on the cost for such an undertaking.. Thanks.
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THIS is why I think he will stay. He will be worshipped here for being mediocre in the Big Ten...enough to make tourney every 3 or 4 years.
I also think/hope that maybe it is just top soon to jump ship for a job that isn't exactly right. I tried to find out if Shrew is a practicing Catholic but found nothing at all on his religios preferences. Obvioysly if YES that favors ND.
Somehow I missed Jeff Brohm leaving Purdue to go home to Louisville. If we could keep Micah for 4 mpre years until he may be in line to head back to Purdue that would be great for us. Here is a Brohm quote about TIMING and not being able to jet from West Lafayette too soon:
Of course, thatās when the Louisville job surfaced. As a lot of people know, you develop relationships with the team, people you work for, and recruits. Those things matter and after one year when the opportunity came about, Iām sure my family wanted me to come home, and rightfully so, but the timing wasnāt right. It wasnāt easy telling my family that, but it wasnāt right, I didnāt feel good about it. I wanted to make sure I continued the journey and kept my word to these young men and the people that had hired me. I continued to do that. I feel like along the way other opportunities have come about and Iāve tried to do the right thing by other people. Then of course, six years later, I feel like weāve made progress at Purdue."
Micah appeats to be cut from the same cloth and has his k8d com8ng in to a program where he can immediately contribute.
We'll see...
Money talks. It always does. In the end, it's always about the money. If he's offered millions more, he's gone.
The name Micah in State College....A good one.
The PSU sports admin needs to pay and term Shrewsbury so much that he would only consider leaving for a true blue blood program. Like, only the 6 or 8 or so of them that exist.
Pay that man his money.
Not paying a good coach only costs you in the long run, in lack of success, turnover, instability, employment searches, etc.
When you get it right, keep it right.
Can't let guys like this go to places that are half step-ish up.
PSU needs to go all in, stay here or top notch blue blood job only.
The PSU sports admin needs to pay and term Shrewsbury so much that he would only consider leaving for a true blue blood program. Like, only the 6 or 8 or so of them that exist.
Pay that man his money.
Not paying a good coach only costs you in the long run, in lack of success, turnover, instability, employment searches, etc.
When you get it right, keep it right.
Can't let guys like this go to places that are half step-ish up.
PSU needs to go all in, stay here or top notch blue blood job only.
I disagreeā¦.itās not always about money. Recruiting and the potential to be a national contender are equally important.
