Reporter calls out Franklin in post game presser

[grinagrin]

At the 2:57 mark the reporter questions why Franklin passed 3 times with 4+ mins left up 12. Franklin gave his answer, the reporter wasn’t having it and goes in on him again about this was Indiana, not OSU or MSU...Franklin takes the high road and basically says next question.

I like that reporter asked the question, but in that situation I think Franklin should’ve made IU start burning timeouts, while being a bit aggressive, because they were up 2 scores, not because they were playing a weaker team (the reporter’s reasoning)

https://bwi.rivals.com/news/penn-st...ball-james-franklin-postgame-press-conference

 

[danvillenit]

Not sure if Jones travelled to Indiana but it sounded like him.

 

[NittPicker]

It's a weird phenomenon where some reporters think they're entitled to answers from coaches. They aren't entitled to squat. I know, freedom of the press, blah, blah, blah. I have a feeling when the founding fathers created the first amendment they weren't thinking about a guy asking questions at a football press conference.

 

[royboy]

Unfortunately, the problem remains....offense has been unable to produce 1st downs and run down the clock while leading late in the game.

In similar situations, run plays didn't work against tOSU, Michigan State (and others) so it was reasonable to try some pass plays, which didn't work either.

 

[mcgunns]

I'll never criticize coaches or players for going for the win. I've personally seen more than enough of 3 runs to "milk the clock" before punting it away to the game winning drive. Clock is nearly irrelevant in college football thanks to first down clock stoppages. What matters is moving the chains period. I think a lot of these blowhards use an NFL cheat-sheet to consider late game scenarios even though it doesn't apply to the college game.


I was personally very happy to see them trying to just win the game outright through the air.


Was also very happy when I saw them putting pressure on the QB rather than playing prevent defense to "milk the clock" which also, as we have seen, doesn't ****ing work in college like in the pros.


Play with heart. Play to win. **** all of this hindsight bullshit that talking head prognosticators obsess over.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

I'll never criticize coaches or players for going for the win. I've personally seen more than enough of 3 runs to "milk the clock" before punting it away to the game winning drive. Clock is nearly irrelevant in college football thanks to first down clock stoppages. What matters is moving the chains period. I think a lot of these blowhards use an NFL cheat-sheet to consider late game scenarios even though it doesn't apply to the college game.


I was personally very happy to see them trying to just win the game outright through the air.


Was also very happy when I saw them putting pressure on the QB rather than playing prevent defense to "milk the clock" which also, as we have seen, doesn't ****ing work in college like in the pros.


Play with heart. Play to win. **** all of this hindsight bullshit that talking head prognosticators obsess over.

Yeah, the bigger issue is that we can't sustain a drive to end the game. I'll take going for it in the air over three straight runs.

 

[AWS1022]

At the 2:57 mark the reporter questions why Franklin passed 3 times with 4+ mins left up 12. Franklin gave his answer, the reporter wasn’t having it and goes in on him again about this was Indiana, not OSU or MSU...Franklin takes the high road and basically says next question.

I like that reporter asked the question, but in that situation I think Franklin should’ve made IU start burning timeouts, while being a bit aggressive, because they were up 2 scores, not because they were playing a weaker team (the reporter’s reasoning)

https://bwi.rivals.com/news/penn-st...ball-james-franklin-postgame-press-conference

And if Hip catches the ball, we probably aren’t having this discussion except posters on here saying they like seeing Franklin finally going for the win instead of turtling up.

 

[SR108]

Yeah, the bigger issue is that we can't sustain a drive to end the game. I'll take going for it in the air over three straight runs.

Agree, the issue is execution not the play called. Purdue threw the ball and ran the ball to keep drives alive against Ohio State. They executed.

 

[danvillenit]

Agree, the issue is execution not the play called. Purdue threw the ball and ran the ball to keep drives alive against Ohio State. They executed.

Bingo. Amazing how great the Purdue coaches looked when their players executed every thing flawlessly. Even had a pick six. I guess our coaches didn't instruct
AO on how to catch a football.

 

[drpops]

Being up two scores we should have run the ball and used the clock or burned IU’s time outs. What happened with OSU and MSU don’t matter. We are a more talented team and in control of the game. Run the clock.
I also think the fake punt was not a wise decision. Too early in the game to try it. Again, we have more talent and should allow the game to take shape not fail and give them early momentum.
To me Franklin is making decisions as if he’s an underdog with inferior talent.

 

[PSU Dave]

Not sure if Jones travelled to Indiana but it sounded like him.

Davey Jones is a chromosome short of a Monkee.

 

[MaconNitt]

Not sure if Jones travelled to Indiana but it sounded like him.

That was Jones

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

I didn't have a problem with passing in that series given our history. Running and failing would have caused similar criticism.

But I wasn't happy with the plays and/or how they were executed. The first pass was too deep and toward the sideline. Neither high percentage nor clock-burning if we do complete it. The second relied on Polk, a tiny WR, to make the key block, which he didn't, so no gain. The third went to a tight end that hasn't played a lot in a timing route. Despite needing 10 yards, the pattern looked like an 8 yard curl. The defender was waiting at the first down line and didn't even need to move. If Bowers takes the pattern 10 yards the pass was too early anyway. In that situation, as in several other critical downs this year, I would have preferred a roll out with option to run or pass. Doesn't seem to be in the playbook.

 

[mjh218]

It was absolutely not reasonable to pass the ball in that situation. Your only job is to run time off the clock. Yes you try and get first downs. But you run the ball with your running back and make them use time and time outs.

 

[LionDeNittany]

I'll never criticize coaches or players for going for the win. I've personally seen more than enough of 3 runs to "milk the clock" before punting it away to the game winning drive. Clock is nearly irrelevant in college football thanks to first down clock stoppages. What matters is moving the chains period. I think a lot of these blowhards use an NFL cheat-sheet to consider late game scenarios even though it doesn't apply to the college game.


I was personally very happy to see them trying to just win the game outright through the air.


Was also very happy when I saw them putting pressure on the QB rather than playing prevent defense to "milk the clock" which also, as we have seen, doesn't ****ing work in college like in the pros.


Play with heart. Play to win. **** all of this hindsight bullshit that talking head prognosticators obsess over.

Not sure how much pressure we put on the QB during that last TD drive by IU. That drive was one of the bigger defensive joke series this season.

That being said, Trace wasn't on passing all day. It wasn't the right decision, but we were up two TDs (in that IU needed two TDs to win) and he went for the riskier win than the more conservative play clock run down.

People forget that against MSU they had "injuries" during their final drive. So the clock wasn't a factor since it was stopping for injury every play. On that I agree... running the clock isn't as big of a factor.

LdN

 

[Dave-97]

Didn't we win the game??? I thought we had more points.

 

[psuro]

That was Jones

Sure it wasn’t Flounders?

 

[grinagrin]

If you get them to burn all their timeouts and then punt, even if/when they score they’ll have to attempt an onside kick. WHEN WE RECOVER the onside kick we then can just run out the clock, game over!...that’s why up two scores you call that differently than when you’re up one score.

Of course if we don’t recover the onside kick then we deserve to lose.

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

It was absolutely not reasonable to pass the ball in that situation. Your only job is to run time off the clock. Yes you try and get first downs. But you run the ball with your running back and make them use time and time outs.

2nd down was effectively a run with Sanders. Not a bad play just a bad choice in who we chose to block it.

The real failure was first down. On that play you're looking to get a few yards, run or (high percentage) pass. Going to Hamler 17 yards down field and towards the sideline is something you do when you don't have clock and need a quick score. He wasn't even in the deepest pattern.

Sometimes I wonder if Rahne calls plays assuming the defense will take away the obvious choice. Seems like he's in a guessing game.

 

[PearlSUJam]

Yeah, the bigger issue is that we can't sustain a drive to end the game. I'll take going for it in the air over three straight runs.

Perhaps our offense line is the group that is under coached. We finally have the guys on the OL that we've been asking for for years, yet we can run behind them when it matters most.

 

[razpsu]

Can’t hope to burn timeouts anymore with 2 plus minutes left. any team can score a touchdown in a minute it has been proven time and time again so they need to rethink the whole 4 minute philosophy. Mix it up is the answer. Not run it everybplay or pass it or throw the bomb for goodness sake. Move the chains! Game over!!!

 

[Judge Smails]

It was absolutely not reasonable to pass the ball in that situation. Your only job is to run time off the clock. Yes you try and get first downs. But you run the ball with your running back and make them use time and time outs.

Like we did in the OSU and MSU games, right?

 

[BBG65]

Maybe, we should have ran in that situation, but I've been very critical of the 3 runs and punt when trying to hold a lead instead of aggressively trying to get 1st downs or score. That conservative playcalling cost us 3 or 4 big games.

 

[Pocono Lion]

Sure it wasn’t Flounders?

It was Jones. Read his story, he takes credit for it.

 

[marshall23]

Who gives two shits about reporters. You know what they get paid? I'll tell you......what they are worth. Minimum wage and all they can eat. Next up, the in depth analysis of Corey Gieger?

 

[Obliviax]

The problem was the first down call. Instead of throwing a short high percentage throw (bubble screen, slant, flair, dig) we throw a 20 yard, high risk sideline throw (IIRC). Now we are second and ten with the clock stopped and few options other than to throw. The idea is to complete a high percentage pass with RAC. you hope to pick up four or more where you still have the run out pass option to get a first down. At second and ten the defense has the advantage like throwing first pitch strikes

 

[thewholebit]

Those who dislike Franklin so much should spend a Sunday with me and experience the majesty of Ron Rivera. Hell, I wish he’d clap all game, but he’d have to unfold his arms and look down from the scoreboard.

 

[JR4PSU]

It's a weird phenomenon where some reporters think they're entitled to answers from coaches. They aren't entitled to squat. I know, freedom of the press, blah, blah, blah. I have a feeling when the founding fathers created the first amendment they weren't thinking about a guy asking questions at a football press conference.

There is no freedom of the press wrt football.

 

[PSU Dave]

It was Jones. Read his story, he takes credit for it.

 

[lbujoe33]

Being up two scores we should have run the ball and used the clock or burned IU’s time outs. What happened with OSU and MSU don’t matter. We are a more talented team and in control of the game. Run the clock.
I also think the fake punt was not a wise decision. Too early in the game to try it. Again, we have more talent and should allow the game to take shape not fail and give them early momentum.
To me Franklin is making decisions as if he’s an underdog with inferior talent.

I agree. We should have pounded them with the running game. Big size advantage. These coaches are thin skinned.

 

[jemblue]

Like we did in the OSU and MSU games, right?

Key difference though: in this game, PSU was up two scores. Against OSU/MSU it was a one-score game.

 

[Waltwam]

If you get them to burn all their timeouts and then punt, even if/when they score they’ll have to attempt an onside kick. WHEN WE RECOVER the onside kick we then can just run out the clock, game over!...that’s why up two scores you call that differently than when you’re up one score.

Of course if we don’t recover the onside kick then we deserve to lose.

As it turned out, we didn’t recover the onside kick, so we deserved to lose....but we didn’t. Don’t you wish you were an Indiana fan, and you could have an even sadder history than you do as a Lion fan.

 

[Judge Smails]

Key difference though: in this game, PSU was up two scores. Against OSU/MSU it was a one-score game.

So? Objective is the same.

 

[chrisrn1965]

At the 2:57 mark the reporter questions why Franklin passed 3 times with 4+ mins left up 12. Franklin gave his answer, the reporter wasn’t having it and goes in on him again about this was Indiana, not OSU or MSU...Franklin takes the high road and basically says next question.

I like that reporter asked the question, but in that situation I think Franklin should’ve made IU start burning timeouts, while being a bit aggressive, because they were up 2 scores, not because they were playing a weaker team (the reporter’s reasoning)

https://bwi.rivals.com/news/penn-st...ball-james-franklin-postgame-press-conference

In this case the question was relevant but this douche just loves to point out any and everything negative about PSU football.

 

[AWS1022]

At the 2:57 mark the reporter questions why Franklin passed 3 times with 4+ mins left up 12. Franklin gave his answer, the reporter wasn’t having it and goes in on him again about this was Indiana, not OSU or MSU...Franklin takes the high road and basically says next question.

I like that reporter asked the question, but in that situation I think Franklin should’ve made IU start burning timeouts, while being a bit aggressive, because they were up 2 scores, not because they were playing a weaker team (the reporter’s reasoning)

https://bwi.rivals.com/news/penn-st...ball-james-franklin-postgame-press-conference

Your title said a reporter called him out then we find out it’s Jones...you may have to change your thread title.

 

[Roswell-Blue]

Your title said a reporter called him out then we find out it’s Jones...you may have to change your thread title.

Whenever you leave Jones an opening to sow discord he'll definitely leap in with both feet. He's a master at fomenting negative energy. CJF handled his question with dignity. The antidote of course is to play better and not to give him any openings ☺. Year's ago I remember when he was up in Russ Rose's grill about the WV team right before they began their championship run. He was never heard from again.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Like we did in the OSU and MSU games, right?

Don’t confuse them with what actually happened one week earlier.

 

[bdgan]

Unfortunately, the problem remains....offense has been unable to produce 1st downs and run down the clock while leading late in the game.

In similar situations, run plays didn't work against tOSU, Michigan State (and others) so it was reasonable to try some pass plays, which didn't work either.

IIRC we didn't have 2 score leads with 4 minutes to go vs. OSU and MSU.

 

[artsandletters]

It's a weird phenomenon where some reporters think they're entitled to answers from coaches. They aren't entitled to squat. I know, freedom of the press, blah, blah, blah. I have a feeling when the founding fathers created the first amendment they weren't thinking about a guy asking questions at a football press conference.

Neither were they expecting citizens to be walking around proudly carrying AR-15s.

 

[Nitwit97]

It's a weird phenomenon where some reporters think they're entitled to answers from coaches. They aren't entitled to squat. I know, freedom of the press, blah, blah, blah. I have a feeling when the founding fathers created the first amendment they weren't thinking about a guy asking questions at a football press conference.

Meda is trying to get information for us. They are asking questions we would like answers