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Rhoades recruiting should focus

Instead of building that cavernous hole in the ground which I fully regret donating to and built an improved Rec Hall type of facility at half the cost and endowed the HC position to where you could attract excellent coaches we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Would a dual purpose facility like PPG Paints arena in Pittsburgh (which is home to the Pens but routinely plays host to NCAA tournament games) have been the best solution?

I have no idea if Pegula would have had an interest in pitching in his resources with other interests to build such a facility, but it may have been in the best interest of the university and our basketball programs if such a plan would have been implemented.
 
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Would a dual purpose facility like PPG Paints arena in Pittsburgh (which is home to the Pens but routinely plays host to NCAA tournament games) have been the best solution?

I have no idea if Pegula would have had an interest in pitching in his resources with other interests to build such a facility, but it may have been in the best interest of the university and our basketball programs if such a plan would have been implemented.
I can't imagine PSU would demolish the BJC. The best we could hope for would be a major renovation in 5+ years.
 
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Better plan would be to give BJ over to concerts, events, rainy day graduations or whatever, and build a base 8-11k seat BB facility with the fans and students right up againt the court and create a real home court advantage like many other teams have. It likely would cost between $150-$200 million, a bargain compared with the $700 million estimate for the refurbishment of Beaver Stadium. and we know that stadium projects almost always go over estimates when completed.

Baylor is demolishing their previous BB arena, opened in 1988, and building a new, smaller area (10,284 down to 7500) for a better atmosphere.

 
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We just don't have a local BBall population that can fill a 16,000-seat arena on a weekday in February. You can say that Harrisburg is only 90 minutes now, but it isn't the same traveling 90 miles in the winter
 
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Better plan would be to give BJ over to concerts, event, rainy day graduations or whatever, and build a base 11k seat BB facility with the fans and students right up againt the court and create a real home court advantage like many other teams have. It likely would cost between $150-$200 million, a bargain compared with the $700 million estimate for the refurbishment of Beaver Stadium. and we know that stadium projects almost always go over estimates when completed.

Baylor is demolishing their previous BB arena, opened in 1988, and building a new, smaller area (10,284 down to 7500) for a better atmosphere.

That is interesting. I think the days of the big, massive facilities is over. You see a trend to lower-attendance facilities where the team can play the theory of elasticity with tickets and keep a better margin. For example, I always get my PSU tickets from a broker right before the game. With 107k, someone is undoubtedly going to try and dump tickets due to a flu or whatever. And, revenues are much more affected by media (TV, radio) than ticket/perking/beer sales. I'll bet, even with the smaller facilities, they still have a lot of corporate loges. Until taxes say you can't write off loges, that will be the trend.
 
That is interesting. I think the days of the big, massive facilities is over. You see a trend to lower-attendance facilities where the team can play the theory of elasticity with tickets and keep a better margin. For example, I always get my PSU tickets from a broker right before the game. With 107k, someone is undoubtedly going to try and dump tickets due to a flu or whatever. And, revenues are much more affected by media (TV, radio) than ticket/perking/beer sales. I'll bet, even with the smaller facilities, they still have a lot of corporate loges. Until taxes say you can't write off loges, that will be the trend.
It's one thing to suggest building a smaller arena when the old one is dilapidated and in need of replacement. It's another thing to suggest adding a completely new arena and keeping the old one just for concerts. I don't see that as a realistic option.
 
It's one thing to suggest building a smaller arena when the old one is dilapidated and in need of replacement. It's another thing to suggest adding a completely new arena and keeping the old one just for concerts. I don't see that as a realistic option.
Good point. it all comes down to the dollars. the BBall program needs a shot in the arm and the old arena just isn't going to cut it. If they can revitalize the program, can it pay for itself? I can't imagine a 7,000 seat arena would cost that much but it isn't big enough for big time concerts either. Duke, for example, holds less than 10,000 people.
 
Better plan would be to give BJ over to concerts, events, rainy day graduations or whatever, and build a base 8-11k seat BB facility with the fans and students right up againt the court and create a real home court advantage like many other teams have. It likely would cost between $150-$200 million, a bargain compared with the $700 million estimate for the refurbishment of Beaver Stadium. and we know that stadium projects almost always go over estimates when completed.

Baylor is demolishing their previous BB arena, opened in 1988, and building a new, smaller area (10,284 down to 7500) for a better atmosphere.

BJC was built in 1996 so we would have to wait 8 more years if we wanted to be like Baylor.

My guess is that the BJC will undergo a major renovation in about 5 years that includes fewer seats and bringing fans closer to the action.
 
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BJC was built in 1996 so we would have to wait 8 more years if we wanted to be like Baylor.

My guess is that the BJC will undergo a major renovation in about 5 years that includes fewer seats and bringing fans closer to the action.
Sound like a plan....

i.e., for a university without much of a commitment to their men's basketball program
 
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I wonder how much playing in BJC hurts us. Certainly not great to be playing in an arena half full most nights. However it can be overcome and it starts with building a team not a collection of guys. I think what Golden has done at Florida is a model of building a strong culture and getting guys that fit that culture. What is our basketball culture? What would Rhoades say? I would hope it is focused on defense and toughness.
 
I can't imagine PSU would demolish the BJC. The best we could hope for would be a major renovation in 5+ years.
Turn it into a building they are planning on spending a shit load of money on for another building that might not be fully functional or filled. It's time to stop the expansionists at PS who make huge money off of that expansion. Make better use of what they have but then the cronies wouldn't get their payday.
 
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Good point. it all comes down to the dollars. the BBall program needs a shot in the arm and the old arena just isn't going to cut it. If they can revitalize the program, can it pay for itself? I can't imagine a 7,000 seat arena would cost that much but it isn't big enough for big time concerts either. Duke, for example, holds less than 10,000 people.
Building a $7,000 seat arena would cost more that the construction cost ($200 billion?). We would have to maintain an extra building.

I read an article about PSU's 20 year facilities plan that was to be carried out in 5 year increments. The BJC wasn't part of the first 5 years but it talked about a major renovation that would among other things bring seats closer to the floor.

A nicer arena might help recruiting but I don't think by a lot. I think it's more about $$$ and a coaching staff that has a winning track record.
 
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