I was defending Joe. The post to which I responded said "There is a contingent on this board that would be happier if we recruited three fullbacks a class, lined up under center, handed the ball off 35 times a game, scored 13 points a game and went 4-8 every year because that's how Joe coached". Joe's teams scored many more points per game and he never went 4-8. That is why I suggested that the poster improve his research.Huh? splane yourself! you just hate joepa or what! The man's teams won 409 games.