Rule Changes 2019/20 through 2020/21

[RoarLions1]

Not all, but tried to paraphrase those of highest interest;

-- Competition uniform language provides for loose-fitting shorts designed for wrestling as a uniform option.

-- Dual meet wrestling order, when the coaches don't agree is now done by coin toss. The winner gets to choose either; (1) the starting weight, or (2) the odd/even bouts. (NOTE: My opinion is that we will fewer coaches agreement, and more coin flips, and therefore see MORE dual meets that start at weight classes other than 125. Rarely will we see/hear about the choice of "odd/even" bouts.)

-- Wrestler's hair length is no longer restricted. Was required to be of certain length at a typical shirt collar and at the ear, or a cover was required. That hair length language was removed completely, though the CHOICE of wearing a cover is still in the rulebook.

-- Verbal/visual counts shall be more visible for; (1) neutral danger rule, (2) dropping to the lower leg, (3) waist and ankle rides, and (4) side headlocks.

-- Hands to the face rule change is now officially in the rulebook as an "illegal hold".

-- The stalling penalty sequence was changed. The fourth violation is now 2 points (it was 1 point).

-- The second referee language now consists of the added words "and authority", meaning that they have the same authority as the referee.

-- Weight management violations AND weigh-in/medical exam violations can not be appealed, basically a clarification.

 

[CowboyUp61]

Not all, but tried to paraphrase those of highest interest;


-- Dual meet wrestling order, when the coaches don't agree is now done by coin toss. The winner gets to choose either; (1) the starting weight, or (2) the odd/even bouts. (NOTE: My opinion is that we will fewer coaches agreement, and more coin flips, and therefore see MORE dual meets that start at weight classes other than 125. Rarely will we see/hear about the choice of "odd/even" bouts.)

If a coach wins the coin flip and chooses odd/even, does the other coach get the choice of starting weights? Kind of like the choices in football when flip winner defers?

 

[RoarLions1]

If a coach wins the coin flip and chooses odd/even, does the other coach get the choice of starting weights? Kind of like the choices in football when flip winner defers?

Yes, exactly as you stated.

 

[nerfstate]

So has the "failed video challenge is stalling" rule not gone through?

 

[dbldoofus]

Seems to me the odd/even is a much bigger deal in HS.

 

[PSUranger]

Yes, exactly as you stated.

Please help a feeble mind to understand. It sounds to me like winning the flip loses either way.
Lets say I really want my 133 pounder to have choice and I win the flip
a. If I say we start at 133 and the other coach takes the odd bouts then I don't get choice at 133
b. If I say we want the even bouts and the other coach says we start at 133, again, I don't get choice at 133

I'm sure I am missing something but can't figure out what it is. Thanks in advance

 

[ClarkstonMark]

Yes, exactly as you stated.

I don't understand what Cowboy stated
I would assume if coach chooses odd, he picks the 1,3,5,7,9 matches and other coach picks 2,4,6,8, 10.
and vice versa
Is this correct or wrong?

 

[y2jriden]

Please help a feeble mind to understand. It sounds to me like winning the flip loses either way.
Lets say I really want my 133 pounder to have choice and I win the flip
a. If I say we start at 133 and the other coach takes the odd bouts then I don't get choice at 133
b. If I say we want the even bouts and the other coach says we start at 133, again, I don't get choice at 133

I'm sure I am missing something but can't figure out what it is. Thanks in advance

My guess is that you win the toss and say I'd like to choose odd or even. Then the other team chooses the starting weight, then you actually pick odd or even.

If it isn't that, then I don't know why you'd ever choose odd/even

 

[RoarLions1]

So has the "failed video challenge is stalling" rule not gone through?

No, not to my knowledge. It was recommended by the wrestling rules committee, but did not make it into the rule book, suggesting it was not approved.

 

[RoarLions1]

Re. the match order. If a coin flip is needed because the coaches don't agree on the starting weight class;
- The coach that wins the toss picks EITHER the starting weight class OR the odd/even bouts.
- If they select the weight class, the opposing coach picks the odd/even weights.
- If they select odd/even weights, the opposing coach pics the starting weight class.

Regardless of which weight class becomes the starting weight class, the bouts will all proceed in weight order (example: if starting at 157, it goes; 157, 165, 174, 184. 197, 285, 125, 133, 141, 149).

 

[RoarLions1]

I don't understand what Cowboy stated
I would assume if coach chooses odd, he picks the 1,3,5,7,9 matches and other coach picks 2,4,6,8, 10.
and vice versa
Is this correct or wrong?

If a coach wins the toss and picks odd bouts, the even bouts, by default, become the opposing coach's teams choice. This opposing coach has the choice of starting weight class.

 

[RoarLions1]

"If coaches cannot agree on the starting weight class, they will execute a coin toss. The winner of the coin toss will have the choice to select either the starting weight class or the odd/even matches. Whichever selection is made by the coach who wins the coin toss, the opposing coach will receive the remaining option. The home team coach is responsible for notifying game management and the referee of each team's selection."

 

[NoVaLion2]

-- The second referee language now consists of the added words "and authority", meaning that they have the same authority as the referee.

To me, this was the biggest change you listed. And, a welcome one, I might add.

 

[nitlion6]

No, not to my knowledge. It was recommended by the wrestling rules committee, but did not make it into the rule book, suggesting it was not approved.

That is a shame.

 

[SetonHallPirate]

FYI, Odd/Even weights are the same regardless of what the start weight is. Odd weights are always 125/141/157/174/197, even weights always 133/149/165/184/285.

 

[psualt]

The video explaining the weight class says that if the winner of the toss chooses 133, the opposing coach chooses either odd/even to determine which weight class steps on the mat first and also have a choice of position in the second period.

So does the odd/even just determine the two things noted above (ie who steps on mat first and choice) and have nothing to do with where they start?

Sorry for being a bit slow on this.

 

[RoarLions1]

Choosing odd or even bouts has the following effect;

a. Which team gets the choice of options at the beginning of the second period for each weight class; and
b. Which team shall present its wrestler on the mat first for each weight class.

So, if I win the coin flip and choose even, I have to send out my wrestler first at 133, 149, 165, 184 and 285, AND he gets choice at the beginning of period 2.

If I lose the coin flip, and the opposing coach picks the starting weight class, I get to choose the odd or even matches for presenting my wrestler and getting first choice to start the second period.

If there was no coin flip (i.e. the coaches agreed to a starting weight class), the red/green disc will be flipped when the captains report to center mat. This will determine who gets the odd or even bouts. Green, and home team chooses; red, and the away team chooses.

To answer psualt's question, choosing odd/even has nothing to do with the weight class that will start the dual.

 

[CowboyUp61]

Heavyweights all over the country are asking coaches to pick HVY to start if they win the toss. So that people will actually watch them.

 

[Used2BEerie]

Heavyweights all over the country are asking coaches to pick HVY to start if they win the toss. So that people will actually watch them.

Our heavy might be an exception!

 

[GogglesPaizano]

Heavyweights all over the country are asking coaches to pick HVY to start if they win the toss. So that people will actually watch them.

We don't have that problem

AJ help continue the momentum....

 

[CowboyUp61]

I think you all have the same problem. A certain percentage is going to get up and head out to "beat the rush" there, too. Happens from JH on up, at every dual i have ever been to. (here is where I say i have never been to a dual in State College, PA) but have been in numerous venues. Big guys are people with feelings too!

 

[nerfstate]

I think you all have the same problem. A certain percentage is going to get up and head out to "beat the rush" there, too. Happens from JH on up, at every dual i have ever been to. (here is where I say i have never been to a dual in State College, PA) but have been in numerous venues. Big guys are people with feelings too!

It totally happens at Rec Hall too—though I noted a curious down tick last year. No offense Nick—I always stayed till the awards.

 

[RoarLions1]

It totally happens at Rec Hall too—though I noted a curious down tick last year. No offense Nick—I always stayed till the awards.

Me too, always have...