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Sammy Sasso

I like B Lee better than Sasso anyway, I might be on an island with that opinion but.....

It looks like Cael passed on both Lee and David Carr who was also very high on my list. No idea if PSU was on either's radar but we can't get them all.

9.9 is a huge equalizer and the biggest factor in why I doubt we will see a modern team run off 6+ NCs in a row including Cael and the good guys.

That is until the impact of the transfer portal sorts out over the next few years.

I am a bit surprised that not even one top 10 kid out there @ 125 or 149 hasn't jumped at the chance to becone a lion and learn from Cael.
Is that a fact that Cael passed on Carr? I don't know if PSU ever wold have gotten strong consideration from him. He grew up in a Cyclone house. I can't imagine Cael would have any issues with a Carr since they are such a great family.
 
Is that a fact that Cael passed on Carr? I don't know if PSU ever wold have gotten strong consideration from him. He grew up in a Cyclone house. I can't imagine Cael would have any issues with a Carr since they are such a great family.
We were not among his finalists but if we passed on him altogether, maybe but I'm unaware of it.
 
LOL, slush, I love your takes. And your positing of them. I feel like we're so similar in lots of ways, so I particularly enjoy it when I disagree with you. Well, in this case, it's not disagreement, per se, just that I reacted/responded differently to this Sasso - Lugo bout. And I, like you, am particularly vulnerable to feeling "annoyed." But Sasso's counterwrestling & the excitement it produced, to me, was far more enjoyable (and thus anti-annoying) than a Beckman/Karam one-knee performance, or a Mike Evans/Sam Stoll Pushfest performance, or a Daton Fix Supreme Offensive Talent Who Frustratingly Keeps It Holstered performance. Sasso's scrambles, and energy & movement, especially against a center-mat bull like Lugo, had me on the edge of my seat, like what is this guy gonna do next? For those reasons, the relative lack of initiated offensive attacks by the winner did not annoy me.

However (b/c, again, we're pretty similar here), I *was kinda annoyed by Brands holding Warner out against Kollin Moore. Just as I was annoyed at Gable holding Wes Hand out against Kerry McCoy in '97, quipping (via phone call to Zalesky & Brands, since Gable himself was getting his hip repaired and didn't attend the BJC dual then)(from Zavorall's Season on the Mat, of course) "he hasn't earned the right to face somebody that good."

Two things were different about how Brands handled this (from how Gable directed him to handle Hand & McCoy): first, notably, Brands didn't forfeit. At least Moore got to compete, unlike McCoy, and to Cash Wilcke's credit, he held the bout to a Decision. Second, check out how Brands handled informing Warner and the reason he gave:


What the heck is that? Gable at least gave a decent quotable, even if it was b.s. and not transparent in the real reason: to stick a thumb in the eye of an opponent you're already dominating in the dual. Seems to me Brands & Gable both had the same real reason (thumb in the eye of an opponent you're already dominating in the dual), but that extra piece about Warner not even knowing he was being denied the chance to battle Moore, until Wilcke walked out? Definitely annoying to this fan.

Nah, that's fine. FWIW, I was annoyed again last night when this time BL had the opportunity to do all the work and get only a stall warning out of it, but baby steps . . . maybe points will be in play when the tourneys roll around.

I'm not seeing much griping, so I'll just tip my cap and acknowledge I'm being more fussy than the average PSU fan on this subject.

Interestingly, I was not annoyed about the Warner thing, as I did not expect him to go that night. Maybe I've spent too much time watching Iowa, because I thought I saw it coming from a mile away (as in ~10 seconds after his loss to Schultz the week prior). Brands is in the unenviable position of having to play psychologist here -- it will be interesting to see how this latest Rx works out with Warner. I have no idea how that plays out, but from the outside looking in, the lack of advance notice seemed like a bold move.
 
Your thoughts and reasoning might very well be true. However what will you think IF over the next few years PSU comes up one deep scoring wrestler short of a Team title. Sasso ends up being 4x AA and graduates with honors. I would think, not just the fans but behind close staff doors they would have second thoughts on not recruiting him.
It would be far easier to accept the fact he chose not to go to Penn State than he was not recruited by PSU.
I watched Sasso tonight wrestle the 4th ranked freshman from Minnesota. Very tough match. Sasso scored counter takedown with about 20 seconds left to win.
Both kids are gonna be tough at BIGs.

Dang......If only we had pushed harder for a 197 (Snyder) to be our heavyweight.....Ohio State would not have won a title
Dang.....if only we had recruited Lee Harder....we would have scored the highest pt. total in history.
Dang.....if only we had recruited Eiereman to transfer......we could score mega points at 149
Dang....if we had offered Carr and pushed harder....we could have convinced him to ignore his father's Alma-Mater
Dang......if only we had recruited Sasso harder.....he would have gladly come to PSU. Along with Lee....we would be the favorite for the next two years.
Dang....if only we had time travel today and could predict injuries....we could win this thing every year instead of only 8 of the last 9.
Dang....if only we had recruited Yanni and Araju and O'Conner harder we would be the favorites for the next few years
Dang.....if I had invested in IBM earlier.....I could have the best Eye Candy on my arm for the next decade and beyond
Dang.....If I had made better choices......MANY better choices.....I might be moderately successful instead of someone who needs to crawl upward significantly to be average,
Dang......deal with it fans....the bus to Utopia doesn't stop at State College.....or anywhere else. The bus to reality doesn't always bring the results you envision.....just the results that occur. :) OUT
 
Dang......If only we had pushed harder for a 197 (Snyder) to be our heavyweight.....Ohio State would not have won a title
Dang.....if only we had recruited Lee Harder....we would have scored the highest pt. total in history.
Dang.....if only we had recruited Eiereman to transfer......we could score mega points at 149
Dang....if we had offered Carr and pushed harder....we could have convinced him to ignore his father's Alma-Mater
Dang......if only we had recruited Sasso harder.....he would have gladly come to PSU. Along with Lee....we would be the favorite for the next two years.
Dang....if only we had time travel today and could predict injuries....we could win this thing every year instead of only 8 of the last 9.
Dang....if only we had recruited Yanni and Araju and O'Conner harder we would be the favorites for the next few years
Dang.....if I had invested in IBM earlier.....I could have the best Eye Candy on my arm for the next decade and beyond
Dang.....If I had made better choices......MANY better choices.....I might be moderately successful instead of someone who needs to crawl upward significantly to be average,
Dang......deal with it fans....the bus to Utopia doesn't stop at State College.....or anywhere else. The bus to reality doesn't always bring the results you envision.....just the results that occur. :) OUT
Dang, you're showing your age by wishing you invested in IBM earlier instead of Amazon. :D
 
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Dang......If only we had pushed harder for a 197 (Snyder) to be our heavyweight.....Ohio State would not have won a title
Dang.....if only we had recruited Lee Harder....we would have scored the highest pt. total in history.
Dang.....if only we had recruited Eiereman to transfer......we could score mega points at 149
Dang....if we had offered Carr and pushed harder....we could have convinced him to ignore his father's Alma-Mater
Dang......if only we had recruited Sasso harder.....he would have gladly come to PSU. Along with Lee....we would be the favorite for the next two years.
Dang....if only we had time travel today and could predict injuries....we could win this thing every year instead of only 8 of the last 9.
Dang....if only we had recruited Yanni and Araju and O'Conner harder we would be the favorites for the next few years
Dang.....if I had invested in IBM earlier.....I could have the best Eye Candy on my arm for the next decade and beyond
Dang.....If I had made better choices......MANY better choices.....I might be moderately successful instead of someone who needs to crawl upward significantly to be average,
Dang......deal with it fans....the bus to Utopia doesn't stop at State College.....or anywhere else. The bus to reality doesn't always bring the results you envision.....just the results that occur. :) OUT
Your humor is cute. Just to confirm and you're welcome to look at my history it is not my typical mantra to take this stance. Basically this one issue is the only time I have commented on missing out on talent.
What makes your list of wrestlers that chose not to go to Penn State a different situation is all/most were recruited by Cael. Sasso was not recruited, and that was my original scope of my comments.
Through a myriad of post and knowledgeable feedback from E-J it appears PSU chose not to recruit him because of character issues.
I'll accept that as the why. But as I said if Sammy goes 4xAA and excells academicly then I think it's fair to wish we had him.
 
Dang......If only we had pushed harder for a 197 (Snyder) to be our heavyweight.....Ohio State would not have won a title
Dang.....if only we had recruited Lee Harder....we would have scored the highest pt. total in history.
Dang.....if only we had recruited Eiereman to transfer......we could score mega points at 149
Dang....if we had offered Carr and pushed harder....we could have convinced him to ignore his father's Alma-Mater
Dang......if only we had recruited Sasso harder.....he would have gladly come to PSU. Along with Lee....we would be the favorite for the next two years.
Dang....if only we had time travel today and could predict injuries....we could win this thing every year instead of only 8 of the last 9.
Dang....if only we had recruited Yanni and Araju and O'Conner harder we would be the favorites for the next few years
Dang.....if I had invested in IBM earlier.....I could have the best Eye Candy on my arm for the next decade and beyond
Dang.....If I had made better choices......MANY better choices.....I might be moderately successful instead of someone who needs to crawl upward significantly to be average,
Dang......deal with it fans....the bus to Utopia doesn't stop at State College.....or anywhere else. The bus to reality doesn't always bring the results you envision.....just the results that occur. :) OUT

I’m not a PSU fan but I think it’s obvious the reason this is a topic is because Sasso is from PA (and they are currently weak at 149). Obviously PSU isn’t going to get every top recruit nationally and isn’t even going to get all the top PA recruits, but one would think there should have at least been some interest with Sasso.
 
Matter:Rutgers::Callthestall:Not getting Sasso :)
Let’s complete the obsession list.

Spyker - NEEDS TO HIT THE WEIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!
Guns - 8 scoring wrestlers
Ban Basketball - Let’s compare degrees
Ranger - Hey, I had that game recorded
Grip - No Dice
Bushwood - Diatribe on stalling

Anymore out there?
 
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Let’s complete the list.

Spyker - NEEDS TO HIT THE WEIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!
Guns - 8 scoring wrestlers
Ban Basketball - Let’s compare degrees
Ranger - Hey, I had that game recorded
Grip - No Dice

Anymore out there?
Not how we would have handled it.
 
Let’s complete the list.

Spyker - NEEDS TO HIT THE WEIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!
Guns - 8 scoring wrestlers
Ban Basketball - Let’s compare degrees
Ranger - Hey, I had that game recorded
Grip - No Dice

Anymore out there?

Slush - I'm annoyed
 
Waaahhh……….If I was Younger, Richer, Smarter and Better Looking.....I might be dating Scarlett Johansson......Waaahhh ……. #IDidn'tStarttheFire
 
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I would say this is an excellent example of the pot calling the kettle black. :rolleyes:
I would say that's unfair..What did I do except post opinion on a situation. I did not trash anyone. If anything I defended a teenager..
Because I went against the"Company Line" , I became the target. This attitude in not being able to have a civil debate is what has divided our country.
The video was my attempt to find humor for the people that take a wrestling forum way to serious.
 
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