Sasso hype continues - Intermat’s freshman of the year
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Why? Per the final Intermat rankings 6 different freshmen ended the year ranked #3 at their weight class. They picked Sasso. I have no problem with that and I certainly don't think it is laughable. Until losing to Lugo at BIGs he was ranked #1 in the country. Pretty sure none of the other frosh were ever ranked #1.
I'm with Chickenman on this. How many times has the national Freshman of the Year failed to win his conference?
Brooks, Griffith, Woods, and Carr all more deserving, and not just for winning their conferences. All of them had better records and better RPIs. Sasso had a slightly better bonus rate than Carr and Brooks -- but far behind Griffith's rate. Woods' bonus rate was 10 pts higher than Griffith's.
And add in the comparatively weak 149 weight class this season. I'm with @McScoreley , it should've been Griffith.
I only disagreed with the point that picking Sasso was laughable. If I had to choose I would have gone with Brooks, but then I have a PSU bias.
149 is the Coronavirus of weights this year - a disgusting “wet market” of pus filled exotic animals as it were
I actually do think Brooks has a better case than Sasso since he won the conference and avenged his only loss with a pin the second time around. But as you could likely tell, I'd give it to Griffith.
If the selection was quasi-laughable, this comment was fully laughable:
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Only problem with Brooks as the choice would be that the rassslin world knew that he was going to get a good ol' fashioned spanking from Taylor Lujan at the Big Dance. The powers that be foresaw that, which is why he didn't even make the final choices on ballots.
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Only problem with Brooks as the choice would be that the rassslin world knew that he was going to get a good ol' fashioned spanking from Taylor Lujan at the Big Dance. The powers that be foresaw that, which is why he didn't even make the final choices on ballots.
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I was wondering who would take him after the Rutgers board dropped the hammer.
Think this one very clearly should’ve been Griffith. Undefeated. Beat Shields twice including the conference championship. One of two people to beat Wittlake. Great bonus rate. Really don’t think it was all that debatable tbh.
As you guys know I have supported Sasso for the last 2 years. I just wished Cael would of shown interest. I don't even know if Sammy would have wanted to go to Penn State. Looks like he chose a school that has worked out well for him
With that said I think Griffith should have been Freshman of the year.
With that said I think Griffith should have been Freshman of the year.
Sasso on academic honor list.
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/hi...-named-division-i-academic-all-americans.html
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/hi...-named-division-i-academic-all-americans.html
I think you could make a case for several. Sasso did beat the #1 and the B1G champ. but had several losses.
Griffith was undefeated but color me uninspired with your best wins are shields and fellow frosh wittlake.
what was woods best win?
If AB didn't lose to Venz he's a no brainer but it happened. still, a FR B1G Champ...i'm probably voting for him.
Griffith was undefeated but color me uninspired with your best wins are shields and fellow frosh wittlake.
what was woods best win?
If AB didn't lose to Venz he's a no brainer but it happened. still, a FR B1G Champ...i'm probably voting for him.
It got posted because a few years ago numerous posters trashed the kid for his known issue he had. I commented that a lot of us had bad moments when we were growing up. I just thought it was the posters were wrong. As I've noted I don't care where a kid goes to school. A wrestler and family have a lot of variables in their decision of what school to attend. Scholarship money, roster, location and academics would all be part of the decision.
I believe that numerous posters didn't know much about kid but used the incident as an explanation of why PSU didn't recruit the kid. Most of us know very little about the specifics of a recruit. We can assume that probably 90+ percent of Caels recruits are devoid of any issues. But I'm certain that a few have had a teenage moment. We just don't know about it. Sasso's issue became public so he was easy target on this forum.
I believe that numerous posters didn't know much about kid but used the incident as an explanation of why PSU didn't recruit the kid. Most of us know very little about the specifics of a recruit. We can assume that probably 90+ percent of Caels recruits are devoid of any issues. But I'm certain that a few have had a teenage moment. We just don't know about it. Sasso's issue became public so he was easy target on this forum.
Just read this thread to confirm my comments about Sasso. The kid is a Pennsylvania kid and he gets trashed by the same core group. Ryan runs a great program with a very high graduation rate. I would think academics are very compatible to Penn State. Sure, there are some programs that you might question academics but I don't think Ohio State under Ryan is one of them.
I ask all the negative posters, if Sasso chose Penn State and had duplicate qualifications would you still posting the negative comments. I doubt it.
I ask all the negative posters, if Sasso chose Penn State and had duplicate qualifications would you still posting the negative comments. I doubt it.
I'm sure @Callthestall was referring to previous threads on the subject. He is probably correct that if he was wearing a singlet with a white belt, we would all be 100% Sasso. However, he is not. So most of us are 100% behind Verk, Bearclaw, Busiello, and Boone. These are our guys.
Is Sasso doing great at tOSU? Absolutely. Would he have had success at PSU? Probably, but there is no guarantee. There is no guarantee what his future holds at tOSU. I wish him well. I'd love for him to be a three time NCAA runner-up.
But for the purposes of this thread, IMHO Brooks has it all over Sasso.
Just remember, we are all friends here. Life is too short.
Is Sasso doing great at tOSU? Absolutely. Would he have had success at PSU? Probably, but there is no guarantee. There is no guarantee what his future holds at tOSU. I wish him well. I'd love for him to be a three time NCAA runner-up.
But for the purposes of this thread, IMHO Brooks has it all over Sasso.
Just remember, we are all friends here. Life is too short.
If Sasso gets trashed here, then the DeSanto threads will make one's eyes bleed.
Most reasonable post in the thread. smalls at least presenting a case based on facts, which several others tried to do as well...but above is the best. Knowing the criteria for "freshman of the year" would help, at least then we could discuss this rationally. We're left with opinions, which we all know are as varied as there are individuals. My surprise in all of this, again, not knowing criteria, is how Brooks can be shut out as a #1 pick on all 10 ballots of reasonable people.
Cream rises, so in the long run, this will be forgotten, and all these guys will have their careers. Then we (as fans) will have much more data to determine success. Just keep working hard Aaron, don't let distractions get in the way. Be the best version of yourself, and don't be concerned with how others are doing.
Agreed. No idea what trashing @Callthestall is referring to. I was a contributor to previous threads about Sammy. Know about a couple of the things that eventually were kind of made public, moreso alluded to here.
Callstall came on here lamenting Sasso (and D11 in general) not being recruited by Cael. I made a case for why that happened, or better yet, why PSU didn't push for him, including some information about other programs that their family was very interested in early - namely VaTech and tOSU. I know there was a lot of chatter about Iowa, but I think that was more from his attending camps there.
And when referring to the incidents, everyone of my posts included a statement to the effect - "hey, he's a kid. Mistakes happen, kid's heads aren't always in the right place and he's a really nice kid that probably just needs to be more mature than the average 15-16 year old because of his situation. And at the end of the day he probably ended up in a great place for him." Early in his JR year, he was definitely an academic risk, but so are a ton of kids. I don't think anything that happened was super serious, but what happens is it slows interest and makes people more cautious. Teams with an early lead - well the lead gets bigger in that scenario.
I don't recall there being sentiment much different from a host of others. I think everyone just kind of got it. But Callstall seems to think a fairly objective opinion on this is "trashing."
Always rooting for Sammy unless he's wrestling a Bearcat or a Nittany Lion. He's an easy kid to root for, does not give off the impression that there is a malicious bone in his body. I also get the impression that most of the kids feel (or felt when he was in HS) the same way also. You can make a case for some kids with D11 backgrounds that have serious, serious red flags (and at other places as well, but D11 is what we are discussing) but Sasso isn't one of them, nor was he presented that way here.
Now he's wearing Scarlet and Grey, so of course there will be some jabs here from some. And, yes, on a PSU forum, there are going to be guys who think that AB had a better year than Sammy. That's certainly not trashing him.
