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Sasso hype continues - Intermat’s freshman of the year

I'm sure @Callthestall was referring to previous threads on the subject. He is probably correct that if he was wearing a singlet with a white belt, we would all be 100% Sasso. However, he is not. So most of us are 100% behind Verk, Bearclaw, Busiello, and Boone. These are our guys.
Is Sasso doing great at tOSU? Absolutely. Would he have had success at PSU? Probably, but there is no guarantee. There is no guarantee what his future holds at tOSU. I wish him well. I'd love for him to be a three time NCAA runner-up.
But for the purposes of this thread, IMHO Brooks has it all over Sasso.
Just remember, we are all friends here. Life is too short.

Quite frankly, PSU fans have proven time and time again that we don't TOTALLY defend inactivity even if it's one of our guys. We want action. And, at weights that were up for grabs, Cael has consistently started guys who are more active.

(And, for the sake of consistency, I wouldn't claim I relish the thought of watching Penn State wrestlers who don't shoot often. But, on the flip side, I'm not gonna complain much about them because I've never done anything as physically hard as being even a "lower tier" college wrestler.)

I don't like Sasso's style. Or perhaps I should say "didn't" since he may improve. After all, Pletcher took 3 years, but he was very aggressive in 2019-20. But, anyway, I absolutely hated watching Sasso last year. His matches against Verk and Lugo were, in a word, BORING. If that's "trashing" the guy, so be it. He didn't shoot very often, and that's boring. Hopefully he improves. It's happened before.
 
Want to see real examples of wrestlers getting trashed?

Go back and read comments about the Altons. Despite them having more shoulder surgeries than fingers to count with, and their arms being held onto their bodies with duct tape -- and everybody knew it at the time.
I ran into both of them at The Saloon while sipping on a Monkey Boy at the bar. This was right after graduation. Both were really nice and didn't mind speaking with a half-in-the-bag 65 year old fan. Andrew's shoulder was in a sling and he showed me the surgery scar. Looked pretty gross.
 
I think we lose context when we talk about Sasso beating the #1 and Big Ten Champ. Sure, Lugo was the Big Ten Champ, but that’s because he beat Sasso. If Griffith lost to Shields the second time would he get credit for having an earlier win over the PAC12 champ? And Lugo was #1 at 149 because somebody has to be. There’s nothing in his career pointing to him being a better wrestler P4P than Shields, so why would that be considered a better win?
 
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Quite frankly, PSU fans have proven time and time again that we don't TOTALLY defend inactivity even if it's one of our guys. We want action. And, at weights that were up for grabs, Cael has consistently started guys who are more active.

(And, for the sake of consistency, I wouldn't claim I relish the thought of watching Penn State wrestlers who don't shoot often. But, on the flip side, I'm not gonna complain much about them because I've never done anything as physically hard as being even a "lower tier" college wrestler.)

I don't like Sasso's style. Or perhaps I should say "didn't" since he may improve. After all, Pletcher took 3 years, but he was very aggressive in 2019-20. But, anyway, I absolutely hated watching Sasso last year. His matches against Verk and Lugo were, in a word, BORING. If that's "trashing" the guy, so be it. He didn't shoot very often, and that's boring. Hopefully he improves. It's happened before.
My comments about trashing the kid was more about previous threads and how Cael doesn't recruit kids with issues like Sasso. I just thought it was wrong to beat down on kid for some teenage immaturity.
As for the comments about Sasso wrestling style. I watched him alot in High School,he was fun to watch with a pretty good arsenal. He was always tough to score on. I believe what we saw at Ohio State was an comment on the Ohio State program. He got decked early in the season and I think Ryan and Sasso decided to rely on his defense to win close matches. I think if he would have went to Penn State you would have seen a different type of wrestler. I remember Joseph losing one of his first matches trying to hit a couple of throws. The Penn State staff did not put Joseph in a conservative mode, they still wanted him to be aggressive in his matches. What has made Penn State so enjoyable to watch the last 10 years is the offensive approach the kids have. A lot of that attitude is derived from the coaching staff.
 
I absolutely love Sammy and his family. If he was a Nit, you would too. he's a great, great kid. I've read so many message board posts bout his 'style' and lack of offense this year. He's a frosh. he's been bred to score. he's figuring it out.

give him another year before criticizing. jmo.
 
I absolutely love Sammy and his family. If he was a Nit, you would too. he's a great, great kid. I've read so many message board posts bout his 'style' and lack of offense this year. He's a frosh. he's been bred to score. he's figuring it out.

give him another year before criticizing. jmo.


CMIW, but wasnt it a failed offensive move that put the L on his record early this year? If so, he prolly got a little hesitant from that....I agree with Willie, he’ll figure this out, prolly just a lot of nerves to get over.


Edit, and who’s gonna beat him next year???
 
I absolutely love Sammy and his family. If he was a Nit, you would too. he's a great, great kid. I've read so many message board posts bout his 'style' and lack of offense this year. He's a frosh. he's been bred to score. he's figuring it out.

give him another year before criticizing. jmo.
Thanks Willie, I've gotten beat up over the last 2 years about my support of Sasso.

Off topic, I know you moved back to area. I truly feel terrible for downtown Easton with the Corona issue. The downtown area was really starting to hop. I think 28 bar restaurants were open at year end of 2019.
The bar niche along with the sports buisness truly have gotten hammered. I hope that we can return to some normalcy.
I can't believe some sports haven't tried to get back on TV. Golf would be easy to do. Have players go off by themselves using electric bag carts it they don't want Caddies next to players. It would be a TV bonanza. Look at the ratings of NFL draft.
 
Thanks Willie, I've gotten beat up over the last 2 years about my support of Sasso.

Off topic, I know you moved back to area. I truly feel terrible for downtown Easton with the Corona issue. The downtown area was really starting to hop. I think 28 bar restaurants were open at year end of 2019.
The bar niche along with the sports buisness truly have gotten hammered. I hope that we can return to some normalcy.
I can't believe some sports haven't tried to get back on TV. Golf would be easy to do. Have players go off by themselves using electric bag carts it they don't want Caddies next to players. It would be a TV bonanza. Look at the ratings of NFL draft.
Beaten up? Quit trying to dunk on us. You’re beginning to turn into another Uncle Pletch. It’s tiresome.
 
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Beaten up? Quit trying to dunk on us. You’re beginning to turn into another Uncle Pletch. It’s tiresome.
Don't rewrite history. Enough of that is being taught in schools. Last year before season started guys on this forum were posting that Verk was better fit for team because of Sasso "character" issues. Verk is a great kid, and the obstacles he has overcome is tremendous. Having a sister who is 55 and has been a diabetic since age 13 I know first hand about the complications of the disease. She was great high school athlete who was recruited to play field hockey in college. The disease did not allow that to happen. She now if losing her eyesight and is becoming a fragile diabetic. What Verk has accomplished is phenomenal. With that said, for some of you to pigeon hole Sasso because of one incident was wrong. As it appears now, he made a good choice in going to Ohio State.
 
I truly don't care who I have differences with on this social forum. We're all entitled to opinion.So I'll recant the statement about getting "beaten" up.
My issue has been about the posters who had used the "character" issue on why Sasso wasn't recruited. Last year, before season started guys on this forum were posting that Verk was better fit for team because of Sasso "character" issues. Verk is a great kid, and the obstacles he has overcome is tremendous. Having a sister who is 55 and has been a diabetic since age 13 I know first hand about the complications of the disease. She was great high school athlete who was recruited to play field hockey in college. The disease did not allow that to happen. She now if losing her eyesight and is becoming a fragile diabetic. What Verk has accomplished is phenomenal. With that said, for some of you to pigeon hole Sasso because of one incident was wrong. As it appears now, he made a good choice in going to Ohio State.
Remember I didn't start this post, I responded to it. If the shoe fits.
 
Don't rewrite history. Enough of that is being taught in schools. Last year before season started guys on this forum were posting that Verk was better fit for team because of Sasso "character" issues. Verk is a great kid, and the obstacles he has overcome is tremendous. Having a sister who is 55 and has been a diabetic since age 13 I know first hand about the complications of the disease. She was great high school athlete who was recruited to play field hockey in college. The disease did not allow that to happen. She now if losing her eyesight and is becoming a fragile diabetic. What Verk has accomplished is phenomenal. With that said, for some of you to pigeon hole Sasso because of one incident was wrong. As it appears now, he made a good choice in going to Ohio State.
He is not a fan of Penn State, so it sounds like it would have been a Sisyphean task for Cael to even try to recruit him more than minimally
 
I absolutely love Sammy and his family. If he was a Nit, you would too. he's a great, great kid. I've read so many message board posts bout his 'style' and lack of offense this year. He's a frosh. he's been bred to score. he's figuring it out.

give him another year before criticizing. jmo.
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Agree give the kid another yr, he'll be a scorer on his feet. It wasnt ever going to happen him coming to PSU, IMO, just like Spencer was never coming to PSU. As far as PSU getting kids from d11 not sure alot were a fit, although they're getting back to being better you still have to go recruit the best u can anywhere.
 
Agree give the kid another yr, he'll be a scorer on his feet. It wasnt ever going to happen him coming to PSU, IMO, just like Spencer was never coming to PSU. As far as PSU getting kids from d11 not sure alot were a fit, although they're getting back to being better you still have to go recruit the best u can anywhere.
I disagree on Spencer, I think it was very close with him. I believe we would have landed him were it not for a certain withdrawn athlete near his weight.
 
Agree give the kid another yr, he'll be a scorer on his feet. It wasnt ever going to happen him coming to PSU, IMO, just like Spencer was never coming to PSU. As far as PSU getting kids from d11 not sure alot were a fit, although they're getting back to being better you still have to go recruit the best u can anywhere.
Your opinion about Spencer Lee is in direct conflict with his public statement about his school choice.
 
Not sure he was a fit anyhow. But his gal pal was there he would be the man at Iowa not at PSU dad setting up shop out there. No dont think it would have happened at all.
 
Didn't want to start a new thread but since District 11 got mentioned. Lehigh just announced their incoming class. 13 kids, 4 District 11 kids. A lot of depth recruits. A name from the past, Colin Kilrain who is Vice Admiral in Navy, son, Sean is following his father footstep. He wrestled for Blair last year. Colin was tough, I can't remember but someone had his number in Nationals.
What is the census on Seymour from Troy?
Will he stay at 125 and did he ever meet Howard? I saw kid only had 1 loss the last 2 years.
https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/sp...1-wrestlers-lead-lehigh-recruiting-class.html
 
Was 149 any weaker than 184? Neither one was a murderers row or anything. I'd if giving it to Griffith but I like Woods and Carr more.
 
Lol well since u seem to be interested in my opinion, lee and his dad I believe wanted to go to a top program where he would be The Man, the big dog that all looked at to get things going. Going to PSU he would have been a big dog in a room full of big dogs.
 
Lol no was lee, but I see ur one of the infatuated ones so we'll leave as my opinion to urs. By the way he is a generational talent but still wasn't a PSU fit. "IMO"
 
What is the census on Seymour from Troy?
Will he stay at 125 and did he ever meet Howard? I saw kid only had 1 loss the last 2 years.
Seymour is probably a 125 lifer. He's in the range of a top 50 prospect. Possible future AA, but champ unlikely. I suspect he might be a little underrated due to a weak HS schedule. He is a Fargo finalist.

Howard is definitely a better prospect. Very unlikely that they would've met -- Seymour wrestled 106 in 2019, then 120 this year.
 
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Lol well since u seem to be interested in my opinion, lee and his dad I believe wanted to go to a top program where he would be The Man, the big dog that all looked at to get things going. Going to PSU he would have been a big dog in a room full of big dogs.
OK. Let me get this straight. In your opinion, Penn State was not a good fit for Spencer Lee because they had too many alpha dogs in the room. So instead he went to Iowa, a much lesser program (I like that part of your argument).
Or Spencer Lee was not a good fit for Penn State, because they (like you) knew that Spencer wanted to be top dog, and Penn State already had too many alphas in the room.
Is it one, the other, or both?
 
OK. Let me get this straight. In your opinion, Penn State was not a good fit for Spencer Lee because they had too many alpha dogs in the room. So instead he went to Iowa, a much lesser program (I like that part of your argument).
Or Spencer Lee was not a good fit for Penn State, because they (like you) knew that Spencer wanted to be top dog, and Penn State already had too many alphas in the room.
Is it one, the other, or both?

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