Senior World Team Trials Challenge - May 16-17

[5q]

Man I don’t know , to post that , implying serious allegations about the program, but being vague about it? I hope you informed Cael, Cody , Casey and Nick you were publicly writing it and most likely, publicly saying one of them dropped the ball on most likely, dealing with an alpha male who won 5 titles

 

[The Japanese Whizzer]

Man I don’t know , to post that , implying serious allegations about the program, but being vague about it? I hope you informed Cael, Cody , Casey and Nick you were publicly writing it and most likely, publicly saying one of them dropped the ball on most likely, dealing with an alpha male who won 5 titles

Are you good at Clue, by chance?

 

[HOCKEYGOD11]

Man I don’t know , to post that , implying serious allegations about the program, but being vague about it? I hope you informed Cael, Cody , Casey and Nick you were publicly writing it and most likely, publicly saying one of them dropped the ball on most likely, dealing with an alpha male who won 5 titles

I’m kind of here also. I am a big BB fan and hope he has a great life and future and enjoyed watching him while he wrestled here but not sure this was the best way forward.

 

[johnstownsteel]

Man I don’t know , to post that , implying serious allegations about the program, but being vague about it? I hope you informed Cael, Cody , Casey and Nick you were publicly writing it and most likely, publicly saying one of them dropped the ball on most likely, dealing with an alpha male who won 5 titles

Can someone direct me to the posts where there were personal attacks on BB and his wife? I'm sure they are here which is why he responded but I'm not seeing them.

 

[5q]

Can someone direct me to the posts where there were personal attacks on BB and his wife? I'm sure they are here which is why he responded but I'm not seeing them.

I didn’t either. Just ones saying his wife wrote that after the Kyle / CStar match (which we all know she shouldn’t have wrote , as that would cause a riff in the room )

 

[5q]

Are you good at Clue, by chance?

I take it you aren’t But carry on being a divk

 

[Foreverinbluejeans57]

Man I don’t know , to post that , implying serious allegations about the program, but being vague about it? I hope you informed Cael, Cody , Casey and Nick you were publicly writing it and most likely, publicly saying one of them dropped the ball on most likely, dealing with an alpha male who won 5 titles

A nice vague, grenade tossed on the way out. That practically names the individual but still won’t name the individual. Don’t think it’s posted if Beau wins a natty this year. I know that’s not a sweet & nice to hear but likely the truth.

 

[Folkstylefan]

A lot of assumptions already. Lets stay out of the cesspool, no need to turn this any farther into the Iowa cesspool territory.

 

[PSU Mike]

A nice vague, grenade tossed on the way out. That practically names the individual but still won’t name the individual. Don’t think it’s posted if Beau wins a natty this year. I know that’s not a sweet & nice to hear but likely the truth.

Do you even realize this is the exact kind of post that he’s referring to?

 

[Foreverinbluejeans57]

Do you even realize this is the exact kind of post that he’s referring to?

He’s beyond critique? That was a shit move, one that may start an unfounded investigation. Should I drop my name and where I work like you while I’m at it?

 

[PSU Mike]

He’s beyond critique? That was a shit move, one that may start an unfounded investigation. Should I drop my name and where I work like you while I’m at it?

I stated a fact. Do with it as you wish.

As to the tone in your last remark, maybe you can be clearer what point you’re trying to make.

 

[FatWoodchuck]

He’s beyond critique? That was a shit move, one that may start an unfounded investigation. Should I drop my name and where I work like you while I’m at it?

I stated a fact. Do with it as you wish.

As to the tone in your last remark, maybe you can be clearer what point you’re trying to make.

I am not keyboard hero, I am a nobody Brian gorzelsky. Why hide.

His remark about the title isnt to far fetched.

Being ruthless is one thing. stating an option that might hurt feelings is not wrong.

If anyone on here knows me they also probably know how I feel about them.

 

[PSUbluTX]

I want to start this message off by acknowledging how appreciative I am of my college experience here at Penn State. I have made so many positive memories and been surrounded by overwhelmingly incredible people, incredible wrestling, and incredible fans. Above all I will always be grateful for my time here and the opportunity to do what I love.

Being part of such a small sport means that we as wrestlers generally have a pretty good idea of where to expect fans to share their thoughts, this forum being one of them. For the most part, a lot of us try to steer clear of spaces like these for the sake of our mental health, as we never know how people are going to react to our performances, especially when the outcomes differ from what fans may have wanted or expected to see. As an athlete, it can be frustrating. As a human, I completely understand wanting to have a space where you can share your thoughts freely. I don’t blame anyone for their passion, and there have been times where it has been truly awesome seeing some of the positive things people have said during my college career. I try every day to be the best person that I can be, and I love hearing the positivity I try to put into the world being returned to me in the form of kind words and comments.

As much as I love seeing people who are passionate about wrestling, one thing that never ceases to surprise me is how quickly some of the anonymous users on this message board are to make unwarranted personal attacks about people they know little to nothing about. You love this program because of the gratitude we display, and you admire the characters of the overwhelming majority of my teammates and I, but the same character seems to be lacking on this message board after we don’t perform the way you expect, or when someone says something you disagree with.

Despite my mostly positive time here, there is a significant piece of my experience as an athlete at Penn State that I have kept quiet on for a long time. One that as hard as I tried to suppress, hindered my mental health and day to day life here in a big way. Whatever my wife has said to cause a stir in this forum, just know that she could absolutely say so much more, but she hasn’t out of respect for me and my inability to feel comfortable sharing my experience in full due to the fear of how it will be perceived. My wife is someone who will do anything to defend the people she loves. She has had to listen to the things I’ve gone through while here, she’s had to listen to the even worse things her friends and other women have personally gone through over the years due to this same individual, she’s had to listen to the stories of my teammates and what they’ve experienced at the hands of this person, and she’s remained quiet through all of it despite being the most outspoken person I know, because there is a certain sense of intimidation that looms throughout the room and outside of it, and so many people, myself included, will more than likely never feel safe coming forward with their full stories. As I share what little I am with you, I know that many of you will ask yourselves why, if things happened, were they not reported? The short answer is that they were. I tried to go to the right people, and like many others, was told that there wasn’t really anything that could be done. This does not mean that the fault lies in the individuals I went to. The fault lies in the unfortunate fact that often times justice is difficult to obtain, even with evidence. I know that I am being vague here. I understand that by sharing what I am choosing to share here, I could cause people to view me differently. But as much courage as this takes to say, I know there are other people in this sport and outside of it that go through similar situations and I want them to know that they are not alone.

Say whatever you need to about me. Criticize my athletic performances, my views, or my character. I truly have no issue with that. But when you involve my wife, and choose to use our wedding (which by the way was a 20 minute ceremony that we did in our pajamas the day after the Open), or a “crazy honeymoon” (that didn’t even happen until last week) as things to blame for my losses, I cannot allow that to happen without speaking up. When you take a screenshot of one sentence she posted onto her story after another wrestler she admires wins a match and use it to fuel your negativity despite not knowing her personally, that is when I feel the need to step in.

Unfortunately I don’t yet have the confidence to share my entire story, and I applaud and admire those who are willing to come forward with theirs, in spite of the all too often scenarios where their experiences are immediately minimized, overlooked, or just all together not believed.

I look to incorporate the themes and values you hear in association with Penn State wrestling in my day to day because I truly believe that they are the keys to living a fruitful life, and I encourage others to do the same. Any one person does not make an entire program, and I can’t emphasize enough how many good people I’ve had the privilege of being surrounded by here every day. With this in mind I just want to encourage people to keep the focus on us as athletes while remembering that we are also humans who go through so many different situations off the mat that you don’t see. If you have any criticisms or comments, keep them about me. If you have anything you’d like to say to me directly, feel free to message me on any platform, preferably with your name attached to your account. Thank you.

If this is really THE Beau Bartlett — OUR Beau Bartlett — thx for posting here man, and being a lurker before that. Great to get your perspective and hope you’ll share more insights about the team and sport we love in the future.

Rest assured that the overwhelming majority here respect and admire what you’ve accomplished and could only dream of achieving the height of your wrestling success. Thx for letting us live vicariously through your amazing talent, effort and success!

 

[backdrft76]

 

[FatWoodchuck]

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I hate to say hes not wrong.

His "class" is to be desired. Karen's are gonna Karen. @PatMineo22

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Pat can't take it when anyone thinks he's in the wrong.

In relation to Beau's post, I appreciate you coming here Beau and posting from your heart about the effect the forums and fans can have and where it crosses the line. It must suck and really hurt when people discuss those that are close to you. I am sorry you have to go through that.

I will say, and I hope you are comfortable with it, but you're looking to have more eyes on you in the wrestling world with this type of post. We can't really gather specifics from your post because it lacks any, but we all know it's referencing Carter as that's the crux of the issue your wife was involved in. If there was really bad shit that happened, you need to just come out with it. Innuendo and hints doesn't do anyone justice outside of inviting more innuendo and rumor. With a post like this you're perpetuating the forum attacking and discussion. My two cents.

I wish you well and I know you will make us PSU fans proud.

 

[Psufan2427]

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Apparently mineo is suffering from selective memory loss again , we are the fanbase that rag on our own guys? I guess mineo is pretending he doesn’t read the Rutgers or Iowa forums daily 🙄…

this whole thing is seems a little dramatic and soft, maybe I’m old school or insensitive but i can’t take a 24 yr old grown man and world class athlete serious when they whine about bullying especially internet bullying and when they claim it’s gone on for years but you wait til now to mention anything. Now this BB post is on all of social media ,every forum, and every corner of the wrestling world but he left it cryptic enough and didn’t name names so now the whole program looks bad. Where was this energy when he was getting a fat NIL deal to come back for one more year ? Either call out who you re gonna call out or keep it to yourself , this cryptic half call out stuff is what girls in high school do and does nothing but stir up more drama and probably steers more hate and negative comments his direction which is ironic bc it seems part of the point of his post was to stop the negativity that comes his way .

Correct me if I’m wrong but this all became public bc his wife made a comment on sm about CS right?

 

[WEAREPSU_LI]

Apparently mineo is suffering from selective memory loss again , we are the fanbase that rag on our own guys? I guess mineo is pretending he doesn’t read the Rutgers or Iowa forums daily 🙄…

this whole thing is seems a little dramatic and soft, maybe I’m old school or insensitive but i can’t take a 24 yr old grown man and world class athlete serious when they whine about bullying especially internet bullying and when they claim it’s gone on for years but you wait til now to mention anything. Now this BB post is on all of social media ,every forum, and every corner of the wrestling world but he left it cryptic enough and didn’t name names so now the whole program looks bad. Where was this energy when he was getting a fat NIL deal to come back for one more year ? Either call out who you re gonna call out or keep it to yourself , this cryptic half call out stuff is what girls in high school do and does nothing but stir up more drama and probably steers more hate and negative comments his direction which is ironic bc it seems part of the point of his post was to stop the negativity that comes his way .

Correct me if I’m wrong but this all became public bc his wife made a comment on sm about CS right?

This is my problem with it. Upset about forum guys and gals ragging on people or merely discussing, sure whatever, most people weren't being dicks about it, but I get it as it can be painful and you are looking at mostly anonymous people talking about you and yours. You may feel helpless to counteract it.

Adding to the forum discussion by being cryptic isn't mature, honestly. He said he went through the avenues and nothing was done, so maybe now it's time to say something publicly if it was so bad. Fueling the fire isn't helpful to anyone but the drama.

 

[FatWoodchuck]

Apparently mineo is suffering from selective memory loss again , we are the fanbase that rag on our own guys? I guess mineo is pretending he doesn’t read the Rutgers or Iowa forums daily 🙄…

this whole thing is seems a little dramatic and soft, maybe I’m old school or insensitive but i can’t take a 24 yr old grown man and world class athlete serious when they whine about bullying especially internet bullying and when they claim it’s gone on for years but you wait til now to mention anything. Now this BB post is on all of social media ,every forum, and every corner of the wrestling world but he left it cryptic enough and didn’t name names so now the whole program looks bad. Where was this energy when he was getting a fat NIL deal to come back for one more year ? Either call out who you re gonna call out or keep it to yourself , this cryptic half call out stuff is what girls in high school do and does nothing but stir up more drama and probably steers more hate and negative comments his direction which is ironic bc it seems part of the point of his post was to stop the negativity that comes his way .

Correct me if I’m wrong but this all became public bc his wife made a comment on sm about CS right?

In other words, it shows how shallow of a person @PatMineo22 really is.

 

[El-Jefe]

His remark about the title isnt to far fetched.

True and yet less than ideal. Does not make his wife a legit target.

 

[Psufan2427]

True and yet less than ideal. Does not make his wife a legit target.

His wife inserted herself into this situation correct? I don’t remember anyone having anything negative to say about her until she started saying stuff about Carter

 

[PatMineo22]

In other words, it shows how shallow of a person @PatMineo22 really is.

I’m shallow because Bartlett insinuated that awful things happened to him at PSU that were ignored or not handled fully? You guys are really helping PSU PR by pushing the guy to that point, nice work. Can’t wait to hear the rest- it doesn’t sound good, but you can put the focus on me if you want ?

 

[Psufan2427]

He’s just trying to draw attention away from the fact he got exposed this week for secretly messaging the jobs of anyone on the internet that argues with him and trying to get them fired. He also tried to Dox the North Carolina woman causing all the Ferrari drama and ended up doxxing the wrong person

 

[mcpat]

I’m shallow because Bartlett insinuated that awful things happened to him at PSU that were ignored? You guys are really helping PSU PR by pushing the guy to that point, nice work. Can’t wait to hear the rest- it doesn’t sound good, but you can put the focus on me if you want ?

He specifically said it wasn’t ignored. He said the people he brought it to couldn’t do anything and said it didn’t reflect on them.

Let’s try to tell the truth.

 

[El-Jefe]

His wife inserted herself into this situation correct? I don’t remember anyone having anything negative to say about her until she started saying stuff about Carter

Mooooooom, she started it!

She said something in support of Dake. People here interpreted it as anti-Carter. But even if she is anti-Carter, so what? That does not justify even one crass comment about their marriage.

 

[PatMineo22]

He’s just trying to draw attention away from the fact he got exposed this week for secretly messaging the jobs of anyone on the internet that argues with him and trying to get them fired. He also tried to Dox the North Carolina woman causing all the Ferrari drama and ended up doxxing the wrong person

What in the world are you talking about, this comment is filled with lies. I never messaged anyone’s jobs, no one doxed anyone or posted the wrong person. You are feeding into delusions. I will give you $100k cash if any of the statements you just made are true. Provide any semblance of proof. They are literally all false, the entire paragraph. 😂

 

[Psufan2427]

He specifically said it wasn’t ignored. He said the people he brought it to couldn’t do anything and said it didn’t reflect on them.

Let’s try to tell the truth.

There is no place for truth in times like this , only rumor and innuendo

 

[PatMineo22]

He specifically said it wasn’t ignored. He said the people he brought it to couldn’t do anything and said it didn’t reflect on them.

Let’s try to tell the truth.

“so many people, myself included, will more than likely never feel safe coming forward with their full stories.”

Sounds like a solid environment.

 

[mcpat]

“so many people, myself included, will more than likely never feel safe coming forward with their full stories.”

Sounds like a solid environment.

 

[Pennstate1985]

Do you even realize this is the exact kind of post that he’s referring to?

I appreciate Beau’s post for the insight of a wrestler going through a high profile program, but it was vague and grenade loaded.

 

[Psufan2427]

Mooooooom, she started it!

She said something in support of Dake. People here interpreted it as anti-Carter. But even if she is anti-Carter, so what? That does not justify even one crass comment about their marriage.

I don’t follow , so she’s allowed to say whatever but everyone else should keep their comments to themselves? If she doesn’t say anything 99.9 percent of this forum wouldn’t know she existed , she made the decision to broadcast her opinion to the world and then gets pushback and it’s everyone else fault ?

 

[PatMineo22]

Pivot from what? You made up multiple lies about me and are pivoting from Bartlett’s truth bombs.

 

[mcpat]

Pivot from what? You made up multiple lies about me and are pivoting from Bartlett’s truth bombs.

I made up lies? Lol.

 

[FatWoodchuck]

I’m shallow because Bartlett insinuated that awful things happened to him at PSU that were ignored or not handled fully? You guys are really helping PSU PR by pushing the guy to that point, nice work. Can’t wait to hear the rest- it doesn’t sound good, but you can put the focus on me if you want ?

Keep on reading my posts about you, i reveal why you are shallow.

 

[Petch]

He specifically said it wasn’t ignored. He said the people he brought it to couldn’t do anything and said it didn’t reflect on them.

Let’s try to tell the truth.

That’s true, but Mineo’s version is more “juicy”, right Pat?

 

[Psufan2427]

“so many people, myself included, will more than likely never feel safe coming forward with their full stories.”

Sounds like a solid environment.

Beau has talked his mental health more then any wrestler I’ve ever seen , hes a little more sensitive and thin skinned then most guys but you know this already , you just choose to ignore that bc you re all about drama and stirring the pot nowadays. Why do you take Beau comments as gospel? He’s talking about not feeling safe yet voluntarily came back for a 5th year when he could’ve left or transferred somewhere and get a cool 500k. Maybe he’s just bitter about a situation behind closed doors, but no you’ll present this as the terrible penn state fans and the problems with the program

 

[FatWoodchuck]

Also I am not one of the people that said anything degrading about any of our wrestlers or their family. I dont condone that either.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

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The inevitable pivot by Pat to become a Paid Lover of Iowa now that Bassett committed there.

Brands can breathe a sigh of relief - he’s out of the crosshairs

 

[amattaro]

All the hair trigger mod work around here, but this one is allowed to continue. LMFAO

 

[Chickenman Testa]

I pine for the time when our wrestlers just talked about Jesus too much