So does Nevills start on Friday? Yea or Nay?
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I think when Cael says he could be ready to go, it means he is ready barring no setbacks in the next few days. I think he used the same wording when assessing Cutch's availability against Ohio St. We will see NN on Friday night and the large sigh is the rest of the collegiate wrestling world collectively realizing we at least have a viable option at HWT that is capable of scoring points at B10's and Nationals.
If he's going to go, Friday would be the logical time. Get a tough opponent to start, a not so tough opponent on Saturday, and then either Gwiz or Marsden in National Duels. This will at least give the coaching staff something to measure the progress for sure.
I would guess he goes. It will be interesting to see how he looks. He looked very good last year at the scuffle until the injury. That snatch single is awful good for a big guy.
From Jim Carlson last weekend...
Sanderson said injured (pectoral muscle) heavyweight Nick Nevills could break into the Nittany Lions' lineup on Friday in Bethlehem.
"There's a chance Nevills will be wrestling,'' Sanderson said. "That's a decision that won't be made until a little closer to that date but he's planning on wrestling.''
Coach may have more to say at tonight's Coaches Radio Show, as the Lehigh Match is only 2 days away.
Sanderson said injured (pectoral muscle) heavyweight Nick Nevills could break into the Nittany Lions' lineup on Friday in Bethlehem.
"There's a chance Nevills will be wrestling,'' Sanderson said. "That's a decision that won't be made until a little closer to that date but he's planning on wrestling.''
Coach may have more to say at tonight's Coaches Radio Show, as the Lehigh Match is only 2 days away.
personally I hope he gets Marsden ...the results from their match last were extremely skewed as a result of the injury ...he wrestled the remainder of that match as immobile as the 'take down dummy' that teams use in the practice room .... really see Marsden as doable opponent for Nick
well ...you can certainly do that and I'll do it my way
OK, so let me ask: why would you want Marsden now, without seeing what Nevills looks like?
If he looks like the pre-injury Nevills of last year, then I'm absolutely with you.
If he looks like Hunter Stieber has so far this year, then we're not going to learn anything by facing Marsden anyway. In that scenario, facing Marsden earlier might hinder his chances of qualifying out of B10s.
Tbf, what Stieber had done was far more invasive and far more serious than what Nick had done. I feel like most of us had a sneaking suspicion Hunter would be a shell of himself. I don't get that feeling with Nick.
I used Stieber to avoid speaking negatively about any past PSU examples. We can all insert examples of wrestlers whose return from injury was less than desired.
My point is that none of us know how he is until we actually see him.
Hope for the best, but anticipate it doesn't always turn out that way.
I thought a couple weeks ago that Friday night was the "now or never" moment. I have to say that no matter the outcome, I'm excited for Nick. He finally gets to put on a PSU singlet and compete. Something (I'm pretty sure) he's been looking forward to for a few years.
And I'm no insider, but I highly doubt Cael would jeopardize a full year of eligibility for Nick if he looked anything other than 100%.
And I'm no insider, but I highly doubt Cael would jeopardize a full year of eligibility for Nick if he looked anything other than 100%.
There is no guarantee that there will be an additional year of eligibility. Further, it is possible that Nick would rather take his shot this year rather than seek another full year of eligibility even if he is less than 100%.
There's lots of "moving parts" regarding returns from injury (and surgery) this late in the year. The health and well-being of the wrestler is paramount.
El jefe ...I think maybe we may not talking on the same train of thot...what I am referring to is ....assuming Nick wrestles Fri and Sat ...then is most likely getting Gwiz or Marsden ...out of that scenario I would prefer he wrestles Marsden who I think he matches up better with as he transitions back to competing
Agreed. If it's a choice of wrestling Gwiz or Marsden next weekend, no question, Marsden. For a number of reasons.
Or, what about None of the Above? From reading Tim Owen's article posted today and thinking out loud ... would Cael instead send Nevills to an open next weekend? If the goal is to get him more matches, especially toward a possible at large bid to nationals, there aren't a lot of opens remaining.
Or, what about None of the Above? From reading Tim Owen's article posted today and thinking out loud ... would Cael instead send Nevills to an open next weekend? If the goal is to get him more matches, especially toward a possible at large bid to nationals, there aren't a lot of opens remaining.
I do not if it is a great idea. After wandering over to the highly insightful, knowledgable and fairer wrestling board hawk report, I have found out that the big meanie Cael is forcing the young, highly impressionable Nick to take the mat on Friday.
I found out Cael is selfishly pushing Nick out the door early so he can make room for the Gable kid from Minnesota.
I thought the decision was being left in the hands of Nick and his family. I was just utterly shocked to find out from such a group of highly intelligent and insightful group that Cael would be soooooo mean and selfish about this.
I found out Cael is selfishly pushing Nick out the door early so he can make room for the Gable kid from Minnesota.
I thought the decision was being left in the hands of Nick and his family. I was just utterly shocked to find out from such a group of highly intelligent and insightful group that Cael would be soooooo mean and selfish about this.
These types of decisions are why Cael makes the big bucks! It's a tough call. If you let him wrestle and he either gets hurt or doesn't qualify for NCAAs, Cael gets skewered for wasting a year of eligibility. If he doesn't wrestle him and PSU loses the NCAA tournament by 2 points, Cael gets skewered for not going for it all. I guess in the end I just hope whatever happens isn't one of these two scenarios. I can live with any of the others.
Agree it's a tough call, but Penn State fans will not skewer Cael for his call either way. Who cares what other fanbases think? Especially one bitter and frustrated fanbase.
I think he wrestles.
I too think he wrestles. I also would trust Cael to make the best decision with the help of the family. The Iowa fan base has become a bunch of cry babies if you read HR, but they don't really speak for the typical Iowa wrestling fan. If you fail to understand that all decisions made by Brands are genius, and all decisions made by Cael,Tom Ryan,J Rob etc. etc. are terrible you will get put on the blacklist I guess. It is really sad how small and backward it makes our entire state seem.
If you've read HR, questioning Brands and staff has been a favorite past time on HR. You're just the latest who thinks that you have been original about it. Also, it's kind of dramatic to label a whole state as backwards because a few posters disagree with you on the Internet.
Nothing wrong with admiring the dog and pony show Cael has going at PSU. I do on a regular basis. However, this is a conversation best kept at HR. You'll get folks that will vehemently disagree with you but at least you'll get some respect because you did it on there.
Oh yea, give the kid a shot...it's a no lose situation unless he gets injured again.
The poster who said those things has been banned over here for too many incendiary comments. Can't remember exactly the final straw that drew the hammer ... but in the thread you cited, he played the Sandusky card -- always a good indicator of what one brings to a discussion.
Everyone can draw their own conclusions about this type of person.
The conclusion I'll draw is that he does not live up to the standards of the Iowa coaches, past or present.
I speak truth. I'm very sorry so few on HR can accept it. It saddens me that this represents the Iowa fan base, but luckily I know it is only the vocal few. A voice of reason and intelligence has been needed on that board for a very long time, but it will not be accepted. The HR board has for some time sought to silence any who speak against anything going on with the program. I have not been quiet with my complaints in person, and will not be silenced by some basement dwellers on HR. The real problem with the vocal Iowa fan base is a deep rooted jealousy of Cael. This isn't new. Cael the wrestler was bad mouthed by that crew his entire career. Cael the coach was bad mouthed while at ISU, and now he is out here kicking the crap out of Iowa and the jealousy overload is in full force. Iowa has a proud tradition with a history of great champions, but this wasn't achieved by hiding from the truth. Cael has been accused of running an illegal slush fund, supporting pedophiles, caring about only himself, and a variety of other unfounded ignorant accusations. I won't do that, so I'm not the "in" crowd on HR. Just reading tonight the heart felt words Cael has regarding the NN situation makes me jealous. We once had this man in our state leading a program. I love the genuine transparency of Cael, and I always will. How can you lie down with such pigs and allow yourself to spew this stuff even part time Chief? You are better than that. We all are.
Sorry...had to be done. The French have a saying for this that I use from time to time..."Farting higher than your hole." I don't have much use for the French but always struck me as a funny comment because its true in a lot of cases. You have been posting on HR for about a week, get over yourself. Also, I may "spew" (in Garth's voice) many things but none of what you cited may be attributed to me or many other regulars over there. In fact, I have disagreed with many of my fellow fans various takes on PSU and have been pretty vocal about it if I think it would matter. Take the good with the bad so count me in as an HR guy...oink.
If only it was a singular poster.
The one you specify had his usual jibberish, but it is still a collective effort at silliness
You don't spew this stuff yourself, but still
You don't spew this stuff yourself, but you sure gladly buddy up to those who do. That is the same thing. I don't/won't be finding it funny anytime soon. I never said a single thing on HR that I would not say personally to anyone. I said the schedule is terrible because it is. I have no problem screaming that from a mountain top. HR is a [lace of perpetual weakness. Enjoy your time there. Likes like likes.
Sorry...had to be done. The French have a saying for this that I use from time to time..."Farting higher than your hole." I don't have much use for the French but always struck me as a funny comment because its true in a lot of cases. You have been posting on HR for about a week, get over yourself. Also, I may "spew" (in Garth's voice) many things but none of what you cited may be attributed to me or many other regulars over there. In fact, I have disagreed with many of my fellow fans various takes on PSU and have been pretty vocal about it if I think it would matter. Take the good with the bad so count me in as an HR guy...oink.
You don't spew this stuff yourself, but you sure gladly buddy up to those who do. That is the same thing. I don't/won't be finding it funny anytime soon. I never said a single thing on HR that I would not say personally to anyone. I said the schedule is terrible because it is. I have no problem screaming that from a mountain top. HR is a [lace of perpetual weakness. Enjoy your time there. Likes like likes.
Chief32 is a good, fair poster. Does he play out of the sand box here from time to time? Yes. But, most of us do as well. I have seen him defend PSU posters and wrestlers far more than any other hawk fan on their own board. For that I give him major props!
Does he stick it to PSU with some of his hawk buddies from time to time? Sure does! However, it's on their board, so why should we care?
So well said there is little to nothing to add. What's said on HR has no resemblance to the truth regarding Cael most of the time that I find it laughable that if Iowa can't beat him in a Championship arena.... they attempt to assassinate his character... falsely... as if it's a victory of some sorts. It's a demented mob mentality and a perpetual weakness that I also agree festers on HR. Birds of a feather will seemingly always flock together and seem to assimilate these bizarre non substantiated claims against a guy who has done nothing, but stratospherically rise since leaving Iowa. And his character has never been a question at all here in PA nor to the parents who willingly send their stud kids to be instructed under his tutelage. Nor Nick Nevills parents who have all the faith in the world in Cael to help their son make a proper decision in coming back and whether it's worth it to do so. Nothing is going to change. Not the success, the steady stream of great kids willing to wrestle for this wrestling Giant.
All I need to hear for the 100th time... is a kid like Jason Nolf reiterate... "What have you learned from Cael... How to be grateful for what I have." The rest is laughable.
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