And CBS news tonight showing the obligatory picture of Joe with his arm around Sandusky's shoulder.
So is this Joe's fault too?
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Two thoughts on this whole mess (regardless of what you think about JS's guilt or PSU's role):
- It's very dangerous to take troubled kids under your wing and try to help them. These kids have problems who knows what they're going to do down the road? God bless Jerry or anybody else for trying but you've got to be extremely careful. (No, I'm not excusing JS's abuse).
- I'm absolutely amazed that Raykovitz and TSM staff would allow ANY of their employees, counselors, or volunteers spend time alone with troubled kids. I'd think it would be standard operating procedure to require all charity related activities to be done in groups with more than one counselor present. Allowing one on one activitiy is just asking for trouble.
He won't
Serves you right for watching. Fake but accurate news.
What is the definition of "involuntary deviate sexual intercourse"? I see that in the article but the language was all about creepy e-mails, looking at the girl funny, suggestive language, etc.
It WAS the rule at TSM, and they constantly ignored it. Yet Jack R. is STILL a child psychologist,. He should be first on the street, then in jail.
Aren't you one of the enemies Count Von Benedict Arnold?
Seems to me that TSM shouldn't have allowed one on one contact, government agencies should have done reviews and stopped it.
In fairness I also think PSU should never have allowed one on one contact in their facilities. Even if they allowed JS to bring kids it should have never been one on one. Very sloppy by PSU. Of course that doesn't mean they knew what was going on or that they conspired to cover for JS. It just means they were careless.
Jerry didn't abuse these girls....Jeff did. Hold people responsible for their own actions.
There is no evidence that he was reported until recently, so why are you blaming "the system"?
It's reasonable to conclude that Penn State enjoyed a symbiotic relationship with the Second Mile that was so cozy that when this blew up, Penn State chose to cannibalize itself rather than risk exposing that relationship. It led to other bad decisions, such as those you illustrate. This is why Penn State the corporation is dead to me.
It sadly appears that "self-cannibalization" is a long, arduous process.
[QUOTE="There is no evidence that he was reported until recently, so why are you blaming "the system"?[/QUOTE]
Because the system is known by EVERYONE, most especially victims and their abusers, to be useless as tits on a boar hog. Lots of stuff does not get reported because there is no effective protection for those who report, and nothing gets done. Reporting this stuff on family member or a neighbor is a risky thing, and most folks do not like to take risks when clowns are in charge.
Because the system is known by EVERYONE, most especially victims and their abusers, to be useless as tits on a boar hog. Lots of stuff does not get reported because there is no effective protection for those who report, and nothing gets done. Reporting this stuff on family member or a neighbor is a risky thing, and most folks do not like to take risks when clowns are in charge.
Well having Pennsylvania's Child Protective Services Agencies report through the Football Program of the State's named Flagship Land-Grant University doesn't seem like a very effective governance structure. Again, do other States structure their Child Protective Services Agencies in this manner? If so, why?
Yeah, you're scum who actually hurts kids with your attitudes.
Joe Paterno's moral failings? Please tell me that you're kidding. You can't possibly be serious.
During this seemingly never ending saga cbs news has appeared at times to be especially acute in their demonizing of psu - is one of their senior executives a pitt grad or something? Very strange.
Oh he's very serious. You don't mean to imply that you'd look anywhere but to this dipshit for a morality arbiter do you?
He's being totally serious. He's an obtuse @ss.
I now do remember that he almost always posts anti PSU posts, so I guess it's par for the course. It's a shame he knows nothing of the facts before he dumps his opinions on this board
When it comes to bashing Joe, it makes my blood boil. Guess our culture must have seeped into my soul.
Back in the day, folks didn't see the problem. Most Big Brother/Big Sister programs are one on one, aren't they? But it only takes one sicko to wreck things for everyone who is actually trying to help. Were I doing that kind of work these days, I'd insist on a buddy system of some kind. But I never would have thought of it back in the day--and I did mentor a young man (who is now a sophomore at a local college). Glad I did--not sure I'd do it again in this atmosphere.
Sadly most of the country believes this horseshit, because they all bought into the media frenzy and narrative 5 years ago. So facts are meaningless.
We can thank our BOT for pouring gas on this fire
Like jive and a few other dips on this board, he thinks once it's his opinion then it is a fact.
But why won't any of them explain why Pennsylvania has all of its Children Protective Services and Youth Sevices Agencies via CPS Law/Code reporting through the Football Program of the State's named Flagship Land-Grant University? Still say that this seems like a very odd and illogical structure.
Another scandal thread. There are only about 5 others going right now.
Talk about beating a dead horse. The horse is long gone and so is Joe.
Talk about beating a dead horse. The horse is long gone and so is Joe.
Why won't you explain why Pennsylvania has all of its Children Protective Services and Youth Sevices Agencies via CPS Law/Code reporting through the Football Program of the State's named Flagship Land-Grant University? Still say that this seems like a very odd and illogical structure.
Seriously Mich what fcking moral failures??????????? This is all you need to know to drop this sh!t. There is not one CREDIBLE piece of evidence that even hints of a moral failure in this case. Thats it, done.
Listen, and I'm serious about this, either stop this crap or stay on The Fort where you belong!! You button pushing midget!!!!!
This post and this attitude are absolute bullshit, and it's a major reason why child abuse continues to be a major problem in Pennsylvania and elsewhere. By saying it's "all" our fault, or everyone's fault, that really means it's nobody's fault and nobody will be held accountable and nothing will change. So people can light candles, wear ribbons, make up hashtags, and convince themselves they helped fix the problem, when all they did was make themselves feel a little better by convincing the world that they "cared."
You don't want to see Paterno's name? OK, here are some others for you.
Nathaniel Craver
Aleta Bailey
Darisabel Baez
Jarrod Tutko
Lakia Hardy
Isabel Rose Godfrey
Scotty McMillan
The Weyant Children... just to name a few.
Google them, and you might shed a tear or two, or maybe feel the urge to throw up in disgust.
Here's another name for you: Bev Mackereth. No, she wasn't a victim of abuse. She was a caseworker in York County and was actually the caseworker for at least 2 children who were killed by abusive parents or their live-ins at the time. Know what happened to her? She was named Secretary of the Department of Public Welfare by... Governor Tom Corbett.
Where did I say it was "everyone's" fault? I didn't say that - you're putting words in my mouth.
Not to worry --- your average "JoePa is a victim, he was framed" poster is the same age as your average "I-watch-Fox News-12-hours-a-day and voted for Trump" person.
They beat the dead horse continually because time is not on their side.
Midget. Mentally and morally. You stand for nothing and I'm making it my personal mission to haunt you, your'e a coward.
You are such a stooge you don't realize how old Osprey is, you clown. Insult one of your few buddies. You are soooo obtuse.
However old he is --- at least he's not backwards looking as regards life, but instead forward looking.
Moral equivalency. Such a F'ING perfect example. You know nothing, you are nothing. Keep trying to tear down the true greats among the ever decreasing few we have left........meanwhile, you probably cried during the Grammy's last night when Adelle made her little tribute to Beyonce. You cried didn't you, Michnitt, you fcking dipshit!!!!
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