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So what is the NCAA rule on off-campus contact w/ a recruit? Nordin/Harbaugh

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Harbaugh was at the Nordin household last night, slept over, and now is driving in to Ann Arbor with Nordin this morning.

I thought a head coach was only allowed one off-campus contact day with a recruit? What's the loophole here?
 


Harbaugh was at the Nordin household last night, slept over, and now is driving in to Ann Arbor with Nordin this morning.

I thought a head coach was only allowed one off-campus contact day with a recruit? What's the loophole here?

You're forgetting who we're talking about here...Jim 'I Do Whatever The F*** I Want' Harbaugh.
 


Harbaugh was at the Nordin household last night, slept over, and now is driving in to Ann Arbor with Nordin this morning.

I thought a head coach was only allowed one off-campus contact day with a recruit? What's the loophole here?
well there's that, and I also thought that the NCAA FB convention (this past week) was a dead period as well. Maybe that's changed.
 
I can hear the pitch now

"Don't you want to play in The Game? We ARE the B1G."
 
well there's that, and I also thought that the NCAA FB convention (this past week) was a dead period as well. Maybe that's changed.

The convention did take place this week, and was also part of a dead period which ran from 12/14 thru 1/13.

A contact period started on 1/14, and runs thru 1/30.

I thought a head coach was only allowed one off-campus contact day with a recruit? What's the loophole here?

a head coach is allowed 1 off-campus contact with a recruit. Within a calendar day (12:01 am to midnight), all contacts between a recruit and the head coach count as 1 contact.
 
After all this, Nordin better actually be able to kick.

He's the guy I care least about losing. There's just too much nonsense going on. It is not going to end on signing day, either. This kid is going to be a pain in someone's ass moving forward.

No double entendre intended.
 
The convention did take place this week, and was also part of a dead period which ran from 12/14 thru 1/13.

A contact period started on 1/14, and runs thru 1/30.



a head coach is allowed 1 off-campus contact with a recruit. Within a calendar day (12:01 am to midnight), all contacts between a recruit and the head coach count as 1 contact.

So isn't this 2 contacts, according to that definition?
 
After all this, Nordin better actually be able to kick.

He's the guy I care least about losing. There's just too much nonsense going on. It is not going to end on signing day, either. This kid is going to be a pain in someone's ass moving forward.

No double entendre intended.

Tyler Davis is a frosh, and was 8/8 on field goals, and 11 for 11 on extra points. I'd love to have someone who was better on kick offs, but by far the most need is to have a great punter. That's where Gillikin comes in. Nordin would be great to have, but need a much better punter.
 
I assume Harbaugh knows what is legal.

Regardless of what you think of him he's making his $8 million salary look like a good investment (assuming he gets Gary, signs 28, and lands the #1 class)
 
It's no wonder that some coaches just don't want to coach at the collegiate level. Doesn't Harbaugh have any pride at all? He's doing all of this for a kicker??? How ridiculous is he willing to look for a real player?

He looks like a total ass.
 
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"All is fair in love and war or recruiting" "it ain't cheating if you don't get caught"
"what, me worry?"
 
Tyler Davis is a frosh, and was 8/8 on field goals, and 11 for 11 on extra points. I'd love to have someone who was better on kick offs, but by far the most need is to have a great punter. That's where Gillikin comes in. Nordin would be great to have, but need a much better punter.

Gillikin kicked a 56 yard field goal this year. He can kick and punt.
 
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Yeah, never mind.


For Nordin to become one of his players, Harbaugh plans to show the love personally: By appearing at Nordin's house when the clock turns to Friday, a day after the contact recruiting period begins, "to spend the night at my house," Nordin said.

Yes, a sleepover.

"He'll be there at 12:01 to spend the entire day with me," Nordin said. "I'm the first person he's slept at the house for."
 
So isn't this 2 contacts, according to that definition?

All depends if he actually slept over, and if he did what calendar day he had the first contact. If he was in the house at 12:01 early Thursday morning, then he can not have any off-campus contact with him after Thursday. If his sleep-over started at 12:01 Friday morning, then he could also travel with Nordin to AA to start the official visit, as that would all count as 1 off-campus contact.
 
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Yeah, never mind.


For Nordin to become one of his players, Harbaugh plans to show the love personally: By appearing at Nordin's house when the clock turns to Friday, a day after the contact recruiting period begins, "to spend the night at my house," Nordin said.

Yes, a sleepover.

"He'll be there at 12:01 to spend the entire day with me," Nordin said. "I'm the first person he's slept at the house for."

This story is so disturbing (and embarrassing to scUM) in so many ways, not the least of which is the disgraceful pandering. I would think any coach across the country with even a shred of decency and pride has to be looking at Harbaugh / scUM and just shaking their head while repeatedly whispering "Disgusting, just simply disgusting.....". Harbaugh is a complete embarrassment to his institution and if his employer is not disturbed and embarrassed by this disgraceful and disturbing display, that pretty much tells you everthing you need to know about scUM as an institution.
 
I haven't seen a coach try this hard since everyone was drooling over QB Johnny Walker many years ago....

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Isn't that a Berkey Creamery travel mug in Nordin's cupholder? I have one just like it.
 


Harbaugh was at the Nordin household last night, slept over, and now is driving in to Ann Arbor with Nordin this morning.

I thought a head coach was only allowed one off-campus contact day with a recruit? What's the loophole here?
You are allowed contact one day per week in person. Week runs Sunday thru Saturday.
Can visit a kid at school then again at home in the evening, but must be same day.
Can be multiple staff with a coordinator at school during day and then Coach at home in evening with parents.

If he arrived at 12:01AM could talk to him in as many places as he wants until day ends.
 
This story is so disturbing (and embarrassing to scUM) in so many ways, not the least of which is the disgraceful pandering. I would think any coach across the country with even a shred of decency and pride has to be looking at Harbaugh / scUM and just shaking their head while repeatedly whispering "Disgusting, just simply disgusting.....". Harbaugh is a complete embarrassment to his institution and if his employer is not disturbed and embarrassed by this disgraceful and disturbing display, that pretty much tells you everthing you need to know about scUM as an institution.
As a UM fan I find it strange. Shows up at 12:01, crashes at their house (didn't a psu coach do this in the past) then drives him to AA. It's a bit gimmicky. But, honestly... disturbing, embarrassing, disgraceful... I know 'everything UM' sets your head on fire (which is freaking hysterical) but even this is over the top for you. Somehow this is a reflection of the University as a whole? :rolleyes:
 
Is there really no rule about spending the night at a recruits house? That just sounds beyond creepy to me.
As a UM fan I find it strange. Shows up at 12:01, crashes at their house (didn't a psu coach do this in the past) then drives him to AA. It's a bit gimmicky. But, honestly... disturbing, embarrassing, disgraceful... I know 'everything UM' sets your head on fire (which is freaking hysterical) but even this is over the top for you. Somehow this is a reflection of the University as a whole? :rolleyes:
Not just his house, in his room (at least that is what he propositioned).
 
I hope they give him a scholly. I would much rather lose Nordin to UM than Dwomfour. Are they maxed at 25 less non qualifier's? I know they talked about Nordin as a grey shirt but that makes all this nonsense look even more silly. If they're at 23 and get Gary and Hill are they full or can they do some thimble and pea and get up to 27/28?
 
this is how he turned around Stanford. Jim wants to win, no doubt about it. I like that about him.

The whole overnight thing is strange (if he even did it) but you have to admire the drive, attitude. scUM was this year and will continue to be formidable with him as the coach.
 
you mean the fact you all care so much about what michigan is doing?
I thought Harbaugh was just trolling the college football world about sleeping his way to a top-rated recruiting class? What happened to that?

You guys were sooo eager to tell us that Hairball wasn't really this creepy -- that the joke was on us -- and Jimmy never really had any intention of curling up alongside Quinn Nordin's bed.

lol, "woops."
 
As a UM fan I find it strange. Shows up at 12:01, crashes at their house (didn't a psu coach do this in the past) then drives him to AA. It's a bit gimmicky. But, honestly... disturbing, embarrassing, disgraceful... I know 'everything UM' sets your head on fire (which is freaking hysterical) but even this is over the top for you. Somehow this is a reflection of the University as a whole? :rolleyes:

Ummm, don't forget he pulled him out of school with this cheap absurd stunt. Shows up at a recruits home at 12:00:01 am on a school/work night when the family may well have more than just one child (and one or both parents need to go to work the next day)? Then "sleeps over" and in the morning tells the kid to skip school so they can drive to AA so he can start his "recruiting weekend" early? All of this was Harbaugh's (scUM's representative and employee) idea and proposition? And you don't find any of it embarrassing or disturbing.....or a reflection upon scUM despite Harbaugh being scUM's direct representative and it was all his idea??? Just the lack of "perspective" and "priorities" displayed by this over-the-top stunt is disturbing not to mention that he told the recruit he wants to sleep next to him in his bedroom on the floor if necessary??? And you don't find any of it embarrassing or disturbing? Gee why am I not surprised?
 
Ummm, don't forget he pulled him out of school with this cheap absurd stunt. Shows up at a recruits home at 12:00:01 am on a school/work night when the family may well have more than just one child (and one or both parents need to go to work the next day)? Then "sleeps over" and in the morning tells the kid to skip school so they can drive to AA so he can start his "recruiting weekend" early? All of this was Harbaugh's (scUM's representative and employee) idea and proposition? And you don't find any of it embarrassing or disturbing.....or a reflection upon scUM despite Harbaugh being scUM's direct representative and it was all his idea??? Just the lack of "perspective" and "priorities" displayed by this over-the-top stunt is disturbing not to mention that he told the recruit he wants to sleep next to him in his bedroom on the floor if necessary??? And you don't find any of it embarrassing or disturbing? Gee why am I not surprised?
I heard Nordin will be the first high school kid ever to miss a day of school for an official visit weekend. NCAA needs to investigate.
 
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As a UM fan I find it strange. Shows up at 12:01, crashes at their house (didn't a psu coach do this in the past) then drives him to AA. It's a bit gimmicky. But, honestly... disturbing, embarrassing, disgraceful... I know 'everything UM' sets your head on fire (which is freaking hysterical) but even this is over the top for you. Somehow this is a reflection of the University as a whole? :rolleyes:
Hmmm, like we have no experience with that kind of wholesale condemnation. Get used to it. We had to.
 
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I heard Nordin will be the first high school kid ever to miss a day of school for an official visit weekend. NCAA needs to investigate.

Well, it sure does say a lot about Harbaugh's "priorities" and "values" that it was HIS FREAKING IDEA TO SKIP SCHOOL in favor of his disturbing "sleep over" and shared drive back to AA so they could get an early start on a "football recruiting weekend"....
 
Anyone who thinks that a 52 year old man fawning over an 18/19 year old kid to the point where he wants to sleep over at the kid's house and watch a movie with him isn't weird, well...I don't know what to say to that person. Thanks to Jim Harbaugh, I think college football recruiting may have officially...

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