I agree it's a combination of things, including some of the above. I also think the track record (borderline bowl team at best) and lack of tradition (relatively poor fan support) hurts retention. Top guys want to be in top environments. So they might be able to sell high school recruits on "The best stay home" (or whatever) but once things aren't going well, it's tough to get them to stay.Most likely a combination of things.
1. They’re a mediocre program with a mediocre track record of player development.
2. With the transfer portal any players that ARE good can transfer up to better programs at any time.
3. They don’t have the NIL needed to keep those players from leaving.
If the kid is looking for a better town, Baton Rouge ain't itI agree it's a combination of things, including some of the above. I also think the track record (borderline bowl team at best) and lack of tradition (relatively poor fan support) hurts retention. Top guys want to be in top environments. So they might be able to sell high school recruits on "The best stay home" (or whatever) but once things aren't going well, it's tough to get them to stay.
Also, and maybe this doesn't factor in to any of these decisions, but College Park is NOT a nice place (campus is fine, but the town is...woof). I'm there a couple of times a month and when you compare it to other college towns with major football teams (State College, Ann Arbor, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville) is not a nice place to spend your college years.
Another starter lost to transfer portal. This time a 2-year OL starter. What is going on in that program that their starters are defecting?
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I haven't seen the stats recently but years ago the average NFL career was something like 3.5 years.What people don't realize is that the average NFL career is very short. I think six years
That would mean you never get more than your rookie contract. ouch. But even guys that put together great 8 year careers, retiring at age 30, half of their earnings are governed by their draft position.I haven't seen the stats recently but years ago the average NFL career was something like 3.5 years.
I agree and wasn't talking about this student athlete in particular.If the kid is looking for a better town, Baton Rouge ain't it
I am sure that is some of it....but I think most of it is that they didn't get the upper end offers and have played their way into a premier program. In that premier program, they'll get better coaching, development and exposure. All fo that means "mo money".same reasons why anyone leaves anything.....the experience isn't what you thought it would be or were told it would be.
I have a feeling at Maryland it isn't what they were told it would be.
...Au contraire...!I agree and wasn't talking about this student athlete in particular.
Although Baton Rouge definitely has better food than College Park.
LOL. There is a Ledo's pizza within walking distance from my house. I've had their pizza twice in 20 years. This area does not have good pizza but Ledo's is REALLY bad even for the DMV....Au contraire...!
...College Park has Ledo's Pizza - nix Besser!...
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Only decent pizza in the DMV is Flippin Pizza. They condition the water to make it closer to Philly/NY. Only good crust for 3 statesLOL. There is a Ledo's pizza within walking distance from my house. I've had their pizza twice in 20 years. This area does not have good pizza but Ledo's is REALLY bad even for the DMV.
Sorry, but I can't buy that. If so many of them played their way in to a better program then Maryland wouldn't suck.I am sure that is some of it....but I think most of it is that they didn't get the upper end offers and have played their way into a premier program. In that premier program, they'll get better coaching, development and exposure. All fo that means "mo money".
What about crabcakes and football! 😂I agree and wasn't talking about this student athlete in particular.
Although Baton Rouge definitely has better food than College Park.
As someone who is coached in Maryland, and still has plenty of friends, who do I can tell you that Mike Locksley is nothing but a used car salesman. Full of empty promises and definitely plays the race card with everything to recruits.same reasons why anyone leaves anything.....the experience isn't what you thought it would be or were told it would be.
I have a feeling at Maryland it isn't what they were told it would be.
The MD campus has beautiful buildingsI agree it's a combination of things, including some of the above. I also think the track record (borderline bowl team at best) and lack of tradition (relatively poor fan support) hurts retention. Top guys want to be in top environments. So they might be able to sell high school recruits on "The best stay home" (or whatever) but once things aren't going well, it's tough to get them to stay.
Also, and maybe this doesn't factor in to any of these decisions, but College Park is NOT a nice place (campus is fine, but the town is...woof). I'm there a couple of times a month and when you compare it to other college towns with major football teams (State College, Ann Arbor, Tuscaloosa, Gainesville) is not a nice place to spend your college years.
That is fascinating. It is professional malpractice to make that type of appeal to these young men and then fail to deliver. MD seems to consistently recruit at a respectable level but never produces any consistency on the field.As someone who is coached in Maryland, and still has plenty of friends, who do I can tell you that Mike Locksley is nothing but a used car salesman. Full of empty promises and definitely plays the race card with everything to recruits.
When he got the head coaching job here at Maryland he sent out an email and text to many of the states powerhouse coaches, both private and public. His basic message was that those coaches needed to keep black players from leaving the state and send them to a fellow black coach. he’s played up how their culture will be one where it is black centered in that he knows how to coach those kids better because of his skin color.
What guys like chopper found out is that he really doesn’t know what he’s doing either at practice or a game today.
As someone who is coached in Maryland, and still has plenty of friends, who do I can tell you that Mike Locksley is nothing but a used car salesman. Full of empty promises and definitely plays the race card with everything to recruits.
When he got the head coaching job here at Maryland he sent out an email and text to many of the states powerhouse coaches, both private and public. His basic message was that those coaches needed to keep black players from leaving the state and send them to a fellow black coach. he’s played up how their culture will be one where it is black centered in that he knows how to coach those kids better because of his skin color.
What guys like chop found out is that he really doesn’t know what he’s doing either at practice or in game day
I don't think so. One of our HS friends qualified for a minority scholarship (might have been like $1000) and turned it down. She, a black female, did win a couple of other small scholarships based on merit alone. Always respected her for that choice. She said she didn't need special help because of her race.Dont all blacks play the race card?
At the very least I know it has been put out there that one of Franklin's pitches to 'croots is that he wants to be the first black coach to win an NCAA championship.Dont all blacks play the race card?
Or it's football in 2023 for a program like MarylandAnother starter lost to transfer portal. This time a 2-year OL starter. What is going on in that program that their starters are defecting?
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Not really playing the race card though. That would be, I wasn't able to do X because of my race. This statement by Franklin is more of I want to be the first to... Like be the first in my family to... Be the first American to... Be the first over 60 to...At the very least I know it has been put out there that one of Franklin's pitches to 'croots is that he wants to be the first black coach to win an NCAA championship.
They would kill to get that many. Capacity is about 55,000....they get 60,000 disengaged "fans"...
As I said above the campus is fine. I'm not sure I'd say any of the buildings are noteworthy but then again I'm compared them to my two alma maters (PSU and UNC, which both have beautiful campuses) and Syracuse (where I worked) which has some really cool buildings.The MD campus has beautiful buildings
Flippin is good but the one near me closed during covid.Only decent pizza in the DMV is Flippin Pizza. They condition the water to make it closer to Philly/NY. Only good crust for 3 states
So don't go to Penn State because their coach is (checks notes)...oh, wait....As someone who is coached in Maryland, and still has plenty of friends, who do I can tell you that Mike Locksley is nothing but a used car salesman. Full of empty promises and definitely plays the race card with everything to recruits.
When he got the head coaching job here at Maryland he sent out an email and text to many of the states powerhouse coaches, both private and public. His basic message was that those coaches needed to keep black players from leaving the state and send them to a fellow black coach. he’s played up how their culture will be one where it is black centered in that he knows how to coach those kids better because of his skin color.
What guys like chop found out is that he really doesn’t know what he’s doing either at practice or in game day
College Park????If the kid is looking for a better town, Baton Rouge ain't it