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Sorry to encourage Toggs....but

Yeah, poor you. I'm sorry you were forced against your will to instigate. I'm sure you fought it with all your might.

PS. There is an OSU forum -- you could chat with him there about how great you think his team is.
 
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I was hoping to invite discussion from the knowledgeable PSU fans current company excluded. I am only sorry if it gives Toggs an opening to brag up his team, but certainly not sorry for lacking restraint in terms of posting general topics of discussion. did this turn into HR?
 
"Sorry", I don't buy it. When you put the guy's name in the title of the thread, you knew exactly what you were doing, and it wasn't to solicit discussion with knowledgeable PSU fans.
 
OSU is a very solid. I see it as OSU, PSU and tOSU and no one else has a shot.

Here's how I see it

Suriano dec Picc 3-0 PSU
Brock dec Cortez 3-3
Heil dec Guilibon 6-3 OSU
Rutherford md Collica 7-6 PSU
Nolf md Smith 11-6 PSU
Joseph dec Chandler 14-6 PSU
Cutchmer dec Morelli 14-9 PSU
Nickel dec Boyd 17-9 PSU
Weigel dec Cutch 17-12 PSU
Nevills dec Shaffer 20-12 PSU

I see 6-4 PSU possible 5-5 if Chandler beats Joseph but PSU still wins as bonus will be in their favor
 
Vs tOSU

Suriano dec Rodriguez 3-0 PSU
Tomasello md Cortez 4-3 tOSU
Hayes dec Guilibon 7-3 tOSU
Rutherford dec Jordan 7-6 tOSU
Nolf tech Ryan 11-7 PSU
Joseph md 15-7 PSU
Jordan dec Morelli 15-10 PSU
Bo dec Martin 18-10 PSU
Moore dec Cutch 18-13 PSU
Snyder md Nevills 18-17 PSU

5-5 split with bonus being key
 
And Jimmy is right there, he is so close, just needs to finish. Wished he would have switched single to head outside double today to finish....Just could not get an angle after he had the leg, then Cruz flops and grabs an ankle and just stalls to a win.

Irritating because Jimmy can beat him and should have beaten him.
 
Vs tOSU

Suriano dec Rodriguez 3-0 PSU
Tomasello md Cortez 4-3 tOSU
Hayes dec Guilibon 7-3 tOSU
Rutherford dec Jordan 7-6 tOSU
Nolf tech Ryan 11-7 PSU
Joseph md 15-7 PSU
Jordan dec Morelli 15-10 PSU
Bo dec Martin 18-10 PSU
Moore dec Cutch 18-13 PSU
Snyder md Nevills 18-17 PSU

5-5 split with bonus being key
Zain will beat the piss out of Jordan. I know using the transitive property is dangerous, but it's also a style thing. Jordan has had back and forth battles with Gardner - you saw what Zain did to him. You think Zain merely decisions Josh Maruca? That would be a bloodbath.

Zain will get a tough first takedown, then crank on Jordan for the rest of the 1st. It'll get uglier from there. Jordan has to hope he gets the first TD, but even then he's not riding Zain.
 
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Zain will beat the piss out of Jordan. I know using the transitive property is dangerous, but it's also a style thing. Jordan has had back and forth battles with Gardner - you saw what Zain did to him. You think Zain merely decisions Josh Maruca? That would be a bloodbath.

Zain will get a tough first takedown, then crank on Jordan for the rest of the 1st. It'll get uglier from there. Jordan has to hope he gets the first TD, but even then he's not riding Zain.

You are probably right but I've watched a lot of Jordan and I see him as number 2 guy at this weight and I was being conservative
 
Not sure why McCutcheon is getting no respect here. Weigel and Moore have all of zero quality wins and have done nothing to make me think they should be favorite to beat cutch. Those match ups are toss ups at this point.

i love Cutch and until you posted this I didn't even realize I gave him losses in both matches. You're right they are toss ups and I was trying to be conservative.
 
Not sure why McCutcheon is getting no respect here. Weigel and Moore have all of zero quality wins and have done nothing to make me think they should be favorite to beat cutch. Those match ups are toss ups at this point.
I actually agree with you but just to make a note of this weekend Moores quality win was over Jake Smith of West Virginia
 
Did anybody take a look at McCutcheon today. Talk about looking healthy and strong.
I will be really interested in how the match with the Okie St kid plays out.
 
And Jimmy is right there, he is so close, just needs to finish. Wished he would have switched single to head outside double today to finish....Just could not get an angle after he had the leg, then Cruz flops and grabs an ankle and just stalls to a win.

Irritating because Jimmy can beat him and should have beaten him.

After watching Jimmy today I am convinced his feet are too big...
 
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