Southern Columbia WR

[Norm Petersin]

I am hearing Southern C wide receiver Julian Fleming , a freshman, received an offer from Michigan. Although he is a freshman, I think he is a "red shirt" freshman. Quite an athlete, good basketball player too. I believe he was all state this year in football.
Rumor is Harbaugh is planning a sleep over at Knoebel's Amusement Park.

 

[Lion8286]

I am hearing Southern C wide receiver Julian Fleming , a freshman, received an offer from Michigan. Although he is a freshman, I think he is a "red shirt" freshman. Quite an athlete, good basketball player too. I believe he was all state this year in football.
Rumor is Harbaugh is planning a sleep over at Knoebel's Amusement Park.

You can "redshirt" in HS?? Did not know that.

 

[artsandletters]

I am hearing Southern C wide receiver Julian Fleming , a freshman, received an offer from Michigan. Although he is a freshman, I think he is a "red shirt" freshman. Quite an athlete, good basketball player too. I believe he was all state this year in football.
Rumor is Harbaugh is planning a sleep over at Knoebel's Amusement Park.

I just watched his Hudl video. Julian is really good already. WR and returner. We'll be hearing about him for the next three years on this board. Somebody notify Smails.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

You can "redshirt" in HS?? Did not know that.

Not to worry - Guns will get that redshirt off him ASAP!

 

[ClarkstonMark]

You can "redshirt" in HS?? Did not know that.

You'd be surprised, or probably not, what parents will do to their kids

 

[artsandletters]

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Not to worry - Guns will get that redshirt off him ASAP!

I've had Gummy on ignore for some time now. Whar's he bragging about these days? Is he still on Cael's and Frank's speed dial? I guess he also predicted the CS plea deal. Jackass.

 

[Norm Petersin]

The term red shirt actually began in Mt. Carmel, where they would hold back a student, usually before they hit 9th grade.

 

[marshall23]

Perched on a hill back from the road
Mungst fields and ridges fair
There stands our school Southern Area High.................
He's the real deal. Hope he becomes a Lion and I live to see it. Thought I had a chance with Henry Hynoski.... at least Hyno went to my Giants.

 

[artsandletters]

The term red shirt actually began in Mt. Carmel, where they would hold back a student, usually before they hit 9th grade.

Once a student athlete enrolls in high school, he/she has four years to graduate. Otherwise they become an academic redshirt their first year in college. That's my understanding of the stupid NCAA rule that kept Villanova's freshman Spellman off the playing roster this season.

 

[Norm Petersin]

Hyno had great work ethic, comes from a nice family too. We weren't taking any FB when Henry was looking.

 

[LafayetteBear]

Is Southern Columbia a high school? Where is it located?

 

[Norm Petersin]

Catawissa, pa, small district 4 school, great football program.

 

[marshall23]

Between Catawissa and Elysburg. About a mile from Knoebels.

 

[psrurock]

We had a kid play qb in college who took a medical redshirt in high school from Forrest Hill. Broke his back in his junior year and missed a whole year of school. I asked how he did it, cause I never heard of it back then. I think administrators pulled some strings.

 

[marshall23]

We had a kid play qb in college who took a medical redshirt in high school from Forrest Hill. Broke his back in his junior year and missed a whole year of school. I asked how he did it, cause I never heard of it back then. I think administrators pulled some strings.

If still age appropriate, most state high school athletic associations in cooperation with the commissioner of education, have an extended eligibility appeal for students who have lost a significant period of school due to injury or illness and will not graduate as a result.

 

[psrurock]

He became a pretty good d2 quarterback and last I knew was an administrator at a western PA high school.

 

[marshall23]

Hyno had great work ethic, comes from a nice family too. We weren't taking any FB when Henry was looking

Many families that lived in Mt. Carmel, Shamokin and Coal Township when I went to Southern back in the 60s have moved into the Elysburg, Numidia Catawissa. Bear Gap area. Hyno's dad was a big Mt. Carmel RB for Jazz Diminick.

 

[psrurock]

My high school was pretty close to that area. The fathers of decent football players held their boys back in middle school so they would graduate at age 18/19. Back then you could still compete in athletics as long as you didn't turn 20 during the current school year.

 

[Norm Petersin]

Southern has a freshman running back who broke the state rushing record for freshman, Gage Garcia , whose father was a 3 time wrestling champ at Mt. Carmel.

 

[Norm Petersin]

Joepa recruited Hynoski sr, he went to Temple.

 

[marshall23]

My high school was pretty close to that area. The fathers of decent football players held their boys back in middle school so they would graduate at age 18/19. Back then you could still compete in athletics as long as you didn't turn 20 during the current school year.

It was pretty common in the coal region for many years. Mt. Carmel got a lot of scrutiny over it, but most of the successful FB programs had 19 year olds when I played.

 

[WDLion]

Is Southern Columbia a high school? Where is it located?

Southern Columbia County.

 

[psrurock]

Back then Berwick was king and their football players were giants. We were 150, 170 soaking wet. They could hit too.

 

[royboy]

Catawissa, pa, small district 4 school, great football program.

and darn good in wrestling, too; small school powerhouse in sports

they finished in 8th place in team scoring in recent PIAA AA wrestling and have some talented underclassmen coming back, including Freshman Gaige Garcia, who is also a very good FB prospect at Running back or Defensive Back
**Norm Petersin mentions Garcia above

 

[sluggo72]

Perched on a hill back from the road
Mungst fields and ridges fair
There stands our school Southern Area High.................
He's the real deal. Hope he becomes a Lion and I live to see it. Thought I had a chance with Henry Hynoski.... at least Hyno went to my Giants.

Wasn't Josh Marks from there ??

 

[Norm Petersin]

Yes

 

[royboy]

Wasn't Josh Marks from there ??

and Nate Schiccatanno, who ended up at Notre Dame and didn't play a lot

 

[Steviedpsu]

Marks was lazy. One of the assistant coaches told me he wasn't surprised that he never did anything in college, because he had no work ethic.

The problem with Southern is the lack of competition in the area. They just overpower everyone.

Isn't the saying Shamokin invented red shirting and Mt. Carmel perfected it?

 

[colt21]

Is Southern Columbia a high school? Where is it located?

They do very well at getting very good athletes from the surrounding schools districts (mine included - Mt Carmel)

It's interesting how many of their athletes are from Mt Carmel, Shamokin, North Schuylkill, Bloomsburg and even farther than that

It has a lot to do with the socio-economics of the area also

It is right past Knoebels in Elysburg - Southern Columbia "County"

There are two feeder towns - Catawissa in Columbia County and Elysburg in Northumberland County

Back in 70s they were putrid -like 0 for the decade
Became respectable when Jerry Marks played and began a crazy run starting in 1994 - the same year Southern, Mt Carmel and Berwick, all schools within 40 minutes of each other, all won state championships

Always had an advantage that kids that go to Columbia Montour Vo Tech did NOT count in their enrollment so they were able to stay single A

Eventually they went to AA and won a state championship at that level too

 

[colt21]

Many families that lived in Mt. Carmel, Shamokin and Coal Township when I went to Southern back in the 60s have moved into the Elysburg, Numidia Catawissa. Bear Gap area. Hyno's dad was a big Mt. Carmel RB for Jazz Diminick.

I coached Jr High at Mt Carmel when Hyno was going to 8th grade
Our head coach came to a practice and said "we just won the championship"
Of course we didn't know what he meant until he said Hyno was coming - alas he stayed

I was the OC and was this close to coaching Hyno !!

 

[artsandletters]

Julian Fleming is really really good and just a soph in Sept. PSU will offer soon hopefully.

 

[colt21]

Wasn't Josh Marks from there ??

Yes interesting fact - Marks played midget football at Mt Carmel and then went to HS at Southern
Think they might have had a weight limit or something

 

[colt21]

Marks was lazy. One of the assistant coaches told me he wasn't surprised that he never did anything in college, because he had no work ethic.

The problem with Southern is the lack of competition in the area. They just overpower everyone.

Isn't the saying Shamokin invented red shirting and Mt. Carmel perfected it?

They over power everyone because they have everyone - they have 60 kids on the roster for what was a single A school until very recently
SIXTY kids
Mt Carmel had 27 two years ago

 

[okinburg1]

Graduated from Shamokin in the 80s. ALL local schools redshirted - usually kids "repeated" 6th, 7th or 8th grade, so that they were as close to the PIAA age limit and still be able to compete in sports. When I was a 17 year old senior running track I often ran against 17 year old sophomores from Mt Carmel, Southern, Pottsville, etc.

 

[colt21]

Graduated from Shamokin in the 80s. ALL local schools redshirted - usually kids "repeated" 6th, 7th or 8th grade, so that they were as close to the PIAA age limit and still be able to compete in sports. When I was a 17 year old senior running track I often ran against 17 year old sophomores from Mt Carmel, Southern, Pottsville, etc.

I was a 17 year old and then just turned 18 part way thru my Senior Year at Mt Carmel

 

[medixman]

I heard Guns was redshirted 3 years n elementary school?

 

[artsandletters]

I heard Guns was redshirted 3 years n elementary school?

'Left back' is what we called it.

And he still only managed to finish in 5th place.

 

[lockhavenlion3]

You can "redshirt" in HS?? Did not know that.

many kids get it by starting school a year late. our grandson did that. certainly wasn't for sports reasons, he just wasn't ready yet. best thing that ever happened to him. outstanding student and a pretty darn good soccer player. going to 2 ps camps this summer.

 

[harjeff]

The term red shirt actually began in Mt. Carmel, where they would hold back a student, usually before they hit 9th grade.

Here in VA we have a private school that reclasses kids, so they get an extra year, then they joined VHSL and were told they were no longer allowed to do that, so that is exactly what they are doing now...7/8th grade they reclass..i.e. repeat grade and they accomplish the same thing going around the edict they had so they cold join the vhsl and play the public schools. I really despise them for this and think they should not be allowed to play the public schools as its not a level playing field.

 

[Delco Lion]

https://www.landof10.com/michigan/michigan-offers-2020-prospect-julian-fleming-leaving-speechless