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Spencer Lee ducked Suriano

All you guys wanted to talk about for years was Lord Spencer. Now that he’s taken an L, and looks very beatable he’s off limits to talk about?
Well, Spencer Lee is clearly not off limits to talk about, as that's all a lot of people on the internet seem to do.

Shoot, I was watching unrelated videos on YouTube and there in the recommendations was Christian Pyles with ANOTHER video about Spencer Lee.😂
 
In our hillbilly county, the DUI folks drive lawn mowers into town to get their legal hooch.
George Jones-approved.

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In our hillbilly county, the DUI folks drive lawn mowers into town to get their legal hooch.
My wife and I were in North Mryle Beach walking Main Street during one of their dance competitions. I had a Penn State wrestling shirt on and a guy starts talking wrestling with me. He and his wife are originally from Johnstown and had retired there a few years prior. He is a few beers past the legal limit and he is telling me this place saved my life and marriage. He says up home in Pennsylvania I kept getting all these DUIs, down here they give you a golf cart and don't give a damn how shit faced you are. Well except those two times I took it up onto 17.

Guy was entertaining as hell.
 
Spencer was physically able to wrestle and chose to forfeit instead. I am pretty sure that means he quit the tournament.
He quit the tournament. That’s not in doubt. That’s what forfeiting is. My “really dude” was in reference to two separate things in the post i replied to.

1. The original post led off with Spencer quit his team. Idk how you can say that with the knowledge of 2021 and the attempt at wrestling in 2022. The only reason he prolonged he inevitable (double acl surgery) is because Iowa was projected to win back to back before the season started. He sacrificed his personal health for the team. Imo this was the wrong decision, in fact, I would argue that Spencer being team oriented was a detriment to his success.

2. In the original post there was mention of Spencer taking Drake Ayala’s spot. If Covid never existed Spencer wins his third that year and wrestles his last year in 2021. But Covid did happen which gave Spencer an extra year.

Then the medical bs happened and pushed Drake to the forefront because of Spencer’s Rs. Spencer didn’t take Drakes spot. Drake wrestled his freshman year and then redshirted this past year. It’s not like Spencer stole any years from Drake. His initial plan was to redshirt, he just did it his second year. Plus, you earn your spot and we saw at the southern scuffle that Drake wasn’t going to do that this year.
 
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He quit the tournament. That’s not in doubt. That’s what forfeiting is. My “really dude” was in reference to two separate things in the post i replied to.

1. The original post led off with Spencer quit his team. Idk how you can say that with the knowledge of 2021 and the attempt at wrestling in 2022. The only reason he prolonged he inevitable (double acl surgery) is because Iowa was projected to win back to back before the season started. He sacrificed his personal health for the team. Imo this was the wrong decision, in fact, I would argue that Spencer being team oriented was a detriment to his success.

2. In the original post there was mention of Spencer taking Drake Ayala’s spot. If Covid never existed Spencer wins his third that year and wrestles his last year in 2021. But Covid did happen which gave Spencer an extra year.

Then the medical bs happened and pushed Drake to the forefront because of Spencer’s Rs. Spencer didn’t take Drakes spot. Drake wrestled his freshman year and then redshirted this past year. It’s not like Spencer stole any years from Drake. His initial plan was to redshirt, he just did it his second year. Plus, you earn your spot and we saw at the southern scuffle that Drake wasn’t going to do that this year.
Drakes initial redshirt was pulled due to Spencer being hurt. He otherwise would have stayed in redshirt. When Spencer decided not to wrestle back after his loss, In my opinion he quit on his team. I don’t hate him for it, I don’t hate anyone. And I’d expect you as an Iowa fan to see it the way you do. I actually respect your opinion. not an Iowa fan. I’m a wrestling fan. Fans are allowed to disagree respectfully without name calling and we have done that. For the record, he still hasn’t addressed why he didn’t wrestle back.
 
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Drakes initial redshirt was pulled due to Spencer being hurt. He otherwise would have stayed in redshirt.
I don't understand the issue here. Ayala started in 2022, then shirted in 2023. Perhaps Ayala would've performed better at 2023 NCAAs than he did in 2022, but eligibility-wise it's a wash.
 
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He quit the tournament. That’s not in doubt. That’s what forfeiting is. My “really dude” was in reference to two separate things in the post i replied to.

1. The original post led off with Spencer quit his team. Idk how you can say that with the knowledge of 2021 and the attempt at wrestling in 2022. The only reason he prolonged he inevitable (double acl surgery) is because Iowa was projected to win back to back before the season started. He sacrificed his personal health for the team. Imo this was the wrong decision, in fact, I would argue that Spencer being team oriented was a detriment to his success.

2. In the original post there was mention of Spencer taking Drake Ayala’s spot. If Covid never existed Spencer wins his third that year and wrestles his last year in 2021. But Covid did happen which gave Spencer an extra year.

Then the medical bs happened and pushed Drake to the forefront because of Spencer’s Rs. Spencer didn’t take Drakes spot. Drake wrestled his freshman year and then redshirted this past year. It’s not like Spencer stole any years from Drake. His initial plan was to redshirt, he just did it his second year. Plus, you earn your spot and we saw at the southern scuffle that Drake wasn’t going to do that this year.
Did he put off the surgery for the team or did he put off the surgery because he wanted to try to rehab his knee without surgery? I thought I recalled an interview in such he said he didn’t have surgery on the first knee and therefore wanted to try to go without surgery on the second too.
 
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Sounds like someone whose knees are pretty much shot in terms of being able to compete at the highest level. I've had recurring knee injuries for over 50 years at this point (first injured in January 1973), so I get it. At a certain point after a number of injuries and procedures, you just never get back to 100%.
 
Maybe he couldn’t get the right payback to throw the bout
 
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