Starocci Statement
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Damn. I thought for sure he’d go for #4 and then move on. Now it looks like that’s not a given. Ugh.
I’d be shocked Shane Sparks style if he doesn’t go for at least 4 - either light Snyder schedule and weigh light in order to get down for 2024 trials or come back after Olympic RS for one last go.
Now not going for 5, on the other hand, that would not shock me.
Now not going for 5, on the other hand, that would not shock me.
I'd really like to see CS get his fourth. But whatever he wants to do
Speculation is that this is a RBY-esque ploy to cultivate more lucrative NIL deals.
I love the kid and hope he comes back but he’s gotta do what he thinks is right by himself. I honestly don’t see him making the Olympics regardless. Dake and Burrows at the lower weight and Taylor at the higher. He isn’t getting past them. JMO.
I think he comes back for 4 but wrestles a very light college schedule while hitting a few international freestyle events during the season like Snyder did. Best of both worlds. I know the Olympics are the ultimate goal but as competitive as Carter is I think being the first 4 time national champion at PSU (with AB following a match later) would be a feather in his cap. He sounds a bit like RBY at this point last season so that could be part of why I think he comes back as well
This - and nothing wrong with that.
Nothing wrong with that, he is a 3x champ in 3 years, let's take care of him, he sure as hell has earned it.
Doesn't sound very reassuring, I think he's ready for a bigger stage and bigger fanbase. I wont be holding my breath on him coming back. But if he does, who fills in 174 if he does the Snyder-schedule? Sparingly throughout the season then comes back at nationals, they definitely won't burn Barr's redshirt for a part-time year. Idk who else is at 174. Ball and Cochran are too heavy. Maybe one of the Lee's? Scary thought.
Kyle Dake just turned 32.
Jordan Burroughs will be 34.
David Taylor is 32.
Time is on Carter's side.
If he’s training for the Olympics at 74kg, he may go 165 in which case Barr is a full time 174 and Facundo is the part timer for the season.
Time as in 4 years from now?? Sure. But he isn’t displacing Dake or Taylor from this Olympic cycle.
Carter is most likely at the 2028 Olympics. He will definitely compete for 2024 and it will be great training for him but I can’t see him displacing Dake or more likely Burroughs. Just my opinion but wouldn’t be surprised if he focuses on the trials in 2023/24 and takes his Oly shirt then takes his final two years at PSU and goes for #4 and #5. Then completely goes all in for the 2028 birth jumping to MMA afterwards. That’s what I’d recommend if I were his agent. But he’s got some great choices ahead. Nice position to be in.
That is Carter being Carter. He's not through with his Natty Daddies.
As great as he is, I don't think he is beating DT, Brooks, Dake, JB or Jason in Freestyle. He might not get what they really have to offer in the room.
But who knows, that is why they wrestle.
But who knows, that is why they wrestle.
FWIW, Carter has already beaten Jason in Freestyle.
He does have a freestyle win over Jason—but Jason has definitely improved since. Making the weight effectively seems like the first hurldle though.
Let him get to Final X this year and see if he can hang w/ JB, if he can then it makes sense to make a run for 2024. If he's not there yet he might as well make some history w/ AB next year.
I don’t know. Once an athlete starts questioning their motivation to do it again…
If he feels like the challenge isn’t there any longer in NCAAs, then maybe he should concentrate 100% on the trials. I’m not going to predict wins over Dake and Burroughs (or even Nolf), but I wouldn’t bet the house against it either.
The wrestlers he needs to be beat are full-time freestyle wrestlers. I might think it would take the same to beat them.
I want him back as much as anyone, but I’ve seen HEW (or in this case HECW) before. It often doesn’t turn out well.
If he feels like the challenge isn’t there any longer in NCAAs, then maybe he should concentrate 100% on the trials. I’m not going to predict wins over Dake and Burroughs (or even Nolf), but I wouldn’t bet the house against it either.
The wrestlers he needs to be beat are full-time freestyle wrestlers. I might think it would take the same to beat them.
I want him back as much as anyone, but I’ve seen HEW (or in this case HECW) before. It often doesn’t turn out well.
He has verbally said that 5 isn't in his future and he's not a fan of class rooms, so extra years at PSU are highly unlikely.
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He is the only person with the opportunity to become a 5-time NC, and likely the only one that will ever have this opportunity. If I'm his father he'd be seeking that distinction (yes, I know he's an adult, but parents can have an plethora of influence). All of the other goals he has set can be achieved later.
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I don’t know. How many peak years does an athlete have? How many does Carter have left at this point? 10? Maybe 15 at the most? If MMA is his next / ultimate goal, does it make sense spending another one of those years chasing something else? It’s going to take some years in MMA to get to the top to begin with.
If he has the ability to get to top of MMA, which I believe he has a good chance, one year will not stop him. He has the opportunity to achieve something that no-one will likely ever match. Financial opportunities will be standing ten deep at his door every morning.
It's a good time for a song.
Beating Nolf is just one of many hurdles. (And yes, he did at the non-Olympic 79 kg/173.8 lb.)
To reach the Olympics, Carter will need to beat at least 3 of Burroughs, Nolf, Cenzo, Marsteller, Wick, O'Toole, Carr, Martinez if he enters.
That's for the right to face Dake.
And he'll have to do all of it 11 lb lighter than today.
That's the challenge, not merely beating any one of them.
Yeah, the weight thing is a huge obstacle with no 79 in the Olympics. Being a 174 folk style wrestler is a big disadvantage for making the Olympics.
Yep. But if he wants to and believes he can do it, I’m not sure training part-time folkstyle and part-time freestyle is the way to go about it.
I think he will assess based on the next few free tourneys. I hold stock in beating Jason only from the point he can compete. That was the backside, they're room buddies, etc... I don't think the same results happen today. USO pen should be revealing in my book.
I’d like to see the rematch. I sometimes wonder if it’s simply a case of superior fundamentals beats superior aggressiveness and creativity at the highest levels. You don’t believe the guy that wins every match 5-2 can beat the guy the wins every match by TF but then Dake goes and wins again. Kind of like Starocci.
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