Your last point concerns me the most. The slow starts are going to catch up at some point again. I'm not horribly concerned about Boise. But faltering early against Georgia or ND is a different story.
The coach wins a Big Game...and looks toward another
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I don’t think you are allowed to say that here……🥴
He was at Vandy, no such thing as having an easy schedule at Vandy….when you’re at Vandy, you are the easy team. Every team he beat those years were good teams compared to Vandy and better programs. Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Ole Miss, Auburn….all better programs, look it up yourself. He took the worst team in the conference, won nine games in back to back years, and posters say he didn’t play anyone….good lord.
He was also at Vandy for 3 years which means he won with someone else’s recruits. lol his best win was against an 8-5 Georgia team. No one better. His record was 9-4, losing to the big boys of those years. Smoke and Mirrors.
No such thing as smoke and mirrors when you’re coaching the worst program in the entire conference. And he won with the previous recruits who won 4 games in two years? Yeah, right. Tell me you know nothing about coaching without telling me.
Could not have summed it up better. In fact we were expected to do even better in bowl games because we prepared so well.
It is when don’t beat any top 25 teams. And you avoid all the top teams in the conference.
For how often I hear Penn State players talk about how much they love Franklin in post game interviews, I have to think he’s a great coach, which goes far beyond ranked wins.
But kids loving their coach isn't always about success...Franklin has to do more than be liked by his team.
Some stats FWIW
Boise:
Total offense 6th
PPG 3rd
Total defense 62nd
PPG given 36th
Penn State:
Total offense 23rd
PPG 24th
Total defense 4th
PPG given 6th
Personally I don't understand how we were only 9 pt favorites at home vs #11 SMU but we're 11 pt favorites over #9 Boise on a neutral field.
Boise:
Total offense 6th
PPG 3rd
Total defense 62nd
PPG given 36th
Penn State:
Total offense 23rd
PPG 24th
Total defense 4th
PPG given 6th
Personally I don't understand how we were only 9 pt favorites at home vs #11 SMU but we're 11 pt favorites over #9 Boise on a neutral field.
Now factor in SOS with that data
Would SMU be favored over Boise on a neutral field?
I’m not saying there aren’t a million morons out there opining on college football, but when the football beat writers think SMU is a top team, and the NCAA football coaches think SMU is a top team, and the college football playoff committee thinks SMU is a top team, and they are the only team to go undefeated in their P4 conference in the regular season, maybe the few message board posters putting them down are the ones that are wrong.
Well wasn’t it you that said SMU was a terrible matchup for Penn state? PSU is way better than Boise
But when you’re a bottom team, all the teams in the conference are above you. So how do you avoid all the top teams?
Oregon went undefeated so they weren't the only one but it's really the P2 and G7 at this point. SMU has a nice little team bur one we we're always going to destroy. That's a testament to where we are as a program
Same as Indiana...they didn't play most of the top half of the division. No Miami, no GA Tech, no Clemson in the regular season...their best win was Pitt???
So Vandy was not the weakest program in the SEC prior to Franklin getting there? That’s not a fact?
In the age of free agency, this is a very powerful endorsement from Zakey Weatley.
No one thinks the team doesn't love Franklin
The issue is trying to convince everyone that beating SMU is a big win. It's a nice win and an important win like next week but when people talk about "big wins" they mean the Ohio State and Oregons of the world. Not someone you're favored to beat by more than a score.
Players loving their coach also doesn't mean they're a great coach. Countless guys have and should have been fired despite Players loving them. You still need to produce
Beat Boise State and it's a great season. Beat Georgia or ND and the narrative begins to change
Win a title...he gets 3 years without complaining as long as we win games we should.
The issue is trying to convince everyone that beating SMU is a big win. It's a nice win and an important win like next week but when people talk about "big wins" they mean the Ohio State and Oregons of the world. Not someone you're favored to beat by more than a score.
Players loving their coach also doesn't mean they're a great coach. Countless guys have and should have been fired despite Players loving them. You still need to produce
Beat Boise State and it's a great season. Beat Georgia or ND and the narrative begins to change
Win a title...he gets 3 years without complaining as long as we win games we should.
Lando drones on.
Dude, you really have to learn when to leave things alone. It's OK to make a point and have an opinion. But by the time you express it for, like, the 73rd time, people start to roll their eyes.
As you well know I'll say it 1073 times if it takes you that long to grasp a simple concept
Opinion. Fact is he beat a bunch of weak teams. You haven’t refuted that. Because you can’t. No different than his record at pennstate. He has a padded record from beating non top 25 teams.
I absolutely refuted it, you just don’t seem to understand. All those “weak” teams were much stronger programs than Vandy. Anybody that down plays what he did ant Vandy is just an hater. And his top 25 record at PSU is mainly due to one team.
James was my first choice to replace O'Brien. What he did at Vandy was amazing but, like many good coaches at programs like Vandy, what he changed was he started beating other bad teams. He still need to prove he can beat good teams somewhat consistently
