The committee will be discussing Oklahoma vs Georgia into the night......
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Putting GA in could seriously ruin college football as we know it. Many fans already think college football is already unfairly skewed toward the SEC...putting GA in would just confirm that and they would lose a lot of fans and many won’t come back.
It should be a quick discussion. The committee should just call Vegas to get a hypothetical line...GA would be favored by at least 4 vs OU on a neutral field.
If they already had Oklahoma ahead of Ohio State coming into the day, there was nothing that happened that should have changed that.
I would be gone as a fan. Would watch only PSU games going forward.
Likely what many would say, but likely they would behave differently. The whole committee thing is a farce. It has been farce forever. Without a true playoff system, it will always be a farce. The good thing is that Pitt can claim another national title and justify it and no one can prove otherwise. Just like UCF.
Well, if they vote them in at four they'd play AL again. That is why Herbie moved them up to three. How can you move a two loss team up to three and leave OSU or ou out?
Plus, flies in the face of the committee putting Ohio State in over us two years ago
I seriously doubt that the committee moves UGA up in the rankings after losing. On top of that, some very questionable coaching decisions down the stretch.
OU bumps UGA. Simple.
OU bumps UGA. Simple.
The games I watched today were brutal. I understand why attendance at these conference championships is bad. These arbitrarily drawn-up divisions to create a so-called championship game are a shakedown, nothing more or less.
If they make it an all SEC, ACC and nonconference ND affair then the push for an 8 team playoff starts in earnest IMO.
The original concept was that there were 5 conferences with 4 champions getting in. People could live with 1 conference champ being left out- assuming it rotated yearly based on the lesser of the 5 being out.
Now we could have 3 of the 5 conference champions left out of the playoff and a second SEC team in (despite losing on the last weekend of the year). No one could have imagined that the PAC 12, Big Ten, and Big 12 conferences could all be excluded at one time.
The original concept was that there were 5 conferences with 4 champions getting in. People could live with 1 conference champ being left out- assuming it rotated yearly based on the lesser of the 5 being out.
Now we could have 3 of the 5 conference champions left out of the playoff and a second SEC team in (despite losing on the last weekend of the year). No one could have imagined that the PAC 12, Big Ten, and Big 12 conferences could all be excluded at one time.
So why should Georgia be given two chances to beat Bama, but Oklahoma none? Especially since Georgia already has a 3 TD loss on their resume
Agree completely. The Big 10 game was in no way a matchup of the top 2 conference teams for a true championship. Same with the ACC and PAC 12.
Then add the Notre Dame factor. They should have played Clemson in the ACC championship game with the loser out of the playoff. Instead, Clemson gets a cupcake game and guarantee in. Notre Dame just stays at home (without even risking a loss) and is guaranteed in. Meanwhile Georgia has to play Alabama and may be out after the close loss.
Disagree vehemently. If vegas lines are all that decide, why play the games. Outcomes don't matter then, just talent level.
So, if Ohio State does not get in, this will mark the 3d time in as many years that the B1G champ stays home.
I sure hope Delaney and Urby are happy that OSU got in over PSU in 16.
I sure hope Delaney and Urby are happy that OSU got in over PSU in 16.
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The four should be Alabama, Clemson, Notre Dame and Oklahoma.
That said, I think Georgia is one of the four best teams in the country. Actually, one of the two best.
Think Clemson is overrated. Wasn’t impressed with ClemsOn against Pitt last night. In fact, Clemson and Notre Dame have played too many nobodies.
And while we’re at it: somebody should tell that Clemson quarterback to do something with his hair. I realize he’s a young tool bag who is trying to create “a look.” The “look,” kid, is dumbarse dork.
That said, I think Georgia is one of the four best teams in the country. Actually, one of the two best.
Think Clemson is overrated. Wasn’t impressed with ClemsOn against Pitt last night. In fact, Clemson and Notre Dame have played too many nobodies.
And while we’re at it: somebody should tell that Clemson quarterback to do something with his hair. I realize he’s a young tool bag who is trying to create “a look.” The “look,” kid, is dumbarse dork.
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Actually, that's pretty much the way Herby said it should be during the ACC game. Said Conference Championships don't matter to him. It's all in the eye test.
Pretty much came right out and said that what you do on the field is meaningless if you don't look as good getting off the bus (or aren't in ESPN's SEC/ACC).
This is an interesting thought, though I can't see it happening
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Notre Dame will be getting a full share of the new ACC Network television contract. ESPN will own the ACC Network. If ND had to play Clemson, as they should, one of those two teams would have a loss. Since Clemson had to actually play in the Championship Game, and won, I consider ND as a 12-1 team since they sat on their couches all day.
No way ND beats Ohio State or Oklahoma. Ohio State looked much more impressive against Michigan and Northwestern than ND did. As you said, Clemson looks over rated, but unlike ND, at least they suited up and won.
I could live with that.
ND doesn't deserve a slot. They are basically a 12-1 team since they were allowed to dodge Clemson.
PSU would still be out in the event both OSU and OK make the playoff.
Sugar - Georgia/Texas
Rose - Michigan/Washington
Peach - ND/LSU
Fiesta - UCF/FL
Sugar - Georgia/Texas
Rose - Michigan/Washington
Peach - ND/LSU
Fiesta - UCF/FL
And they lost to a 3 loss LSU team Loses need to matter, just like OSU's 29 point lose to Purdue.
Alabama
Clemson
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Georgia is not getting in. Obviously the whole process is subjective but there seems to be a line in the sand with two losses as there should be.
I still think you need to make the regular season mean something and in order to do that you have to combine that with overall resume.
Georgia has 2 losses while OU/OSU have 1. No conference championship and they already lost to Bama on a neutral site (in Georgia's home state)... hard to bitch when you had a chance. Not to mention, they played 3 good teams this year and are 1-2 in those games. Whether they are one of the best 4 is debatable but I am fine with them not getting in. I'd be more inclined to put them in if their other loss was an Out of Conference clash to a top ranked team.
ND had a great name brand schedule, but outside of Michigan, none of the teams it beat were good, like at all. However, I can live with them being in.
Oklahoma lost a tough rivalry game and then revenged it. The Big 12 is not a great conference but I'm not sure any conference was great this year. They only have 1 loss and won their conference.
Ohio State won its conference and division which was harder than Georgia's division IMO and only has 1 loss. Not to mention, OSU has better wins against comment opponents than ND does and I'd say winning against a top 12 team in a White Out environment is a better away win than any of the other teams have.
To me the discussion should be between OSU and OU while not including Georgia this time.
Georgia has 2 losses while OU/OSU have 1. No conference championship and they already lost to Bama on a neutral site (in Georgia's home state)... hard to bitch when you had a chance. Not to mention, they played 3 good teams this year and are 1-2 in those games. Whether they are one of the best 4 is debatable but I am fine with them not getting in. I'd be more inclined to put them in if their other loss was an Out of Conference clash to a top ranked team.
ND had a great name brand schedule, but outside of Michigan, none of the teams it beat were good, like at all. However, I can live with them being in.
Oklahoma lost a tough rivalry game and then revenged it. The Big 12 is not a great conference but I'm not sure any conference was great this year. They only have 1 loss and won their conference.
Ohio State won its conference and division which was harder than Georgia's division IMO and only has 1 loss. Not to mention, OSU has better wins against comment opponents than ND does and I'd say winning against a top 12 team in a White Out environment is a better away win than any of the other teams have.
To me the discussion should be between OSU and OU while not including Georgia this time.
So the BIG12 is encouraged to get a CCG and it’s winner gets left out
B1G champs gets left out 3 years in a row
A top 4 team has 2 losses
A one lose CC demolished the same opponent that an undefeated barely beat
CCGs should be the sweet 16 or elite 8. I understand complaints that NW and Pitt being in CCGs kind of lowers the bar, but no more than a no name making it to the sweet 16 etc.
The only two problems I see with the process right now is (1) that there is TOO much subjectivity in the committee. They need hard rules like CCGs automatically get in. (2) Getting to the CCG is too easy.
NW did not beat a single ranked opponent in its conference to get to CCG
Pitt beat #20 SYR
But that is (to me) a conference problem not a committee problem.
By the way, anyone see SEC commish lobbying for GA last night in the post game? Franklin should send those quotes to Delaney in his Christmas card.
B1G champs gets left out 3 years in a row
A top 4 team has 2 losses
A one lose CC demolished the same opponent that an undefeated barely beat
CCGs should be the sweet 16 or elite 8. I understand complaints that NW and Pitt being in CCGs kind of lowers the bar, but no more than a no name making it to the sweet 16 etc.
The only two problems I see with the process right now is (1) that there is TOO much subjectivity in the committee. They need hard rules like CCGs automatically get in. (2) Getting to the CCG is too easy.
NW did not beat a single ranked opponent in its conference to get to CCG
Pitt beat #20 SYR
But that is (to me) a conference problem not a committee problem.
By the way, anyone see SEC commish lobbying for GA last night in the post game? Franklin should send those quotes to Delaney in his Christmas card.
I would love to see UCF to get the 4th seed but it won't happen. I believe Georgia is better than Oklahoma and Ohio State too.
For me it's simple. If ND and/or GA get into the CFP, I just won't watch. GA wouldn't even be second in the SEC west and ND's best win is against a team that got destroyed by an eventual conference champion. ND can have a seat at the kids table with a vastly overrated UCF, until they decide to join a conference in football. GA shouldn't get a 3rd mulligan just because they pass Herbie's eye test.
The best way to show disapproval for ESPN's sister kissing-eye test-beauty pageant is to tune out. If enough people ignore it and the ratings tank it has a better chance of getting changed.
The best way to show disapproval for ESPN's sister kissing-eye test-beauty pageant is to tune out. If enough people ignore it and the ratings tank it has a better chance of getting changed.
The ACC game was bad. But the Big 12 and SEC games were great. The B10 game was good until half way through the 4th.
I get ND is unpopular on here, but what justification is there to drop them 3 spots and out a team blown out by Purdue in?
As I watched the SEC championship game it occurred to me. How could these NOT be the two best teams in college football? GA played like its hair was on fire. Its OL pushing Bama's defense around. Jake Fromm hitting outside-shoulder passes some NFL QBs can't make. And of course, D'Andre Swift just being D'Andre Swift. So I'm thinking should the SEC have an unfair advantage then fix it. 'Level the playing field', so to speak. But until that happens we're obliged to put the four best teams in the playoffs or make a mockery of the selection process. Watch Jake thread the needle...
Florida beat LSU, LSU beat Georgia and Georgia almost beat Alabama. All four should go.
