It's a nice theory, except that pins are still happening even if at a lower rate, and this doesn't explain why cradles specifically are being used less for those pins.
The Cradle: What happened to it?
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The other thing is-as we're told and can see-kids are coming out of HS-too well trained to get their knees anywhere near the head.
I'd like to see somebody use the spladle like Nickal did and the cement mixer like Hall.
Agreed, though it's also cyclical. Give it a few years with less cradles, defense will focus elsewhere, and cradles will return.
Yeah, that was my point near the top of this thread. Things cycle through. I feel like the master technicians that coach in the PSU room understand and leverage these cycles better than anyone.
You could not defend the Ed Ruth cross face cradle. Ed made the cradle an art form.
Shak Rasheed had a vicious cross face cradle and I remember watching Nolf hit a bunch of roll through cradles from a front head position.
A couple of trends I’ve noticed recently have been a higher hand position on double legs (as opposed to locking behind the knees as is the traditional finish). Geno Morelli made a good short video explaining the thought process behind it. Basically, cutting the double just below the buttocks allows for greater control of the weight distribution and prevents the opponent from being able to apply as much hip pressure when sprawling.
Last weekend seemed to feature a lot of cow catcher/cement job pins. Coincidence or not, it seems to be somewhat of a trend at the D1 level.
A couple of trends I’ve noticed recently have been a higher hand position on double legs (as opposed to locking behind the knees as is the traditional finish). Geno Morelli made a good short video explaining the thought process behind it. Basically, cutting the double just below the buttocks allows for greater control of the weight distribution and prevents the opponent from being able to apply as much hip pressure when sprawling.
Last weekend seemed to feature a lot of cow catcher/cement job pins. Coincidence or not, it seems to be somewhat of a trend at the D1 level.
I wish I could remember who on here said Ruth didn’t look that strong.
I mean - it wasn’t the shoulders as wide as a barn door, arms like undersea cables, huge hands, lats like a flying suit rig?
He didn’t have enough scary tats and puffed up creatine muscles I guess?
An offshoot of this was the Nickal “noodle arm” discussion
I still remember Ed wrestling Nate Brown at Lehigh. Ed was on top, Nate nearly kicked out, Ed with his right hand snatched Brown's heel with basically a finger pinch and just pulled Brown back to him. Brown's head dropped to the mat as it appeared he just realized what he was dealing with.
What is the origin of "noodle arms"? Where did it come from?
I've referred to Bo as "Ol' Noodle Arms" before myself but I have no clue as to the history of the phrase. Just seen it thrown about here and other places.
I believe the Iowa message board referred to him as "noodle arms."
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