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The final four in the expanded CFB playoff tanked in tv ratings for both games.

Is winning the conference championship game really that meaningless? Seems like a fairly big accomplishment, especially in the BIG and SEC. And it's used towards seeding, which I got mixed feelings about.

It isn't meaningless as much as it is excessive and unnecessary. Oregon and Texas finished the regular season as #1 in their conference. That would have been fine for seeding the playoff. With the expanded playoff, let's just get to those games and play them after the regular season ends. The 2 week gap between ccg week and R1 was absurd.
 
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It isn't meaningless as much as it is excessive and unnecessary.

It’s only “excessive” if you don’t consider winning your conference as an important accomplishment. Personally, I consider it more valuable than the mythical CFP which its subjective criteria for qualification.
 
It’s only “excessive” if you don’t consider winning your conference as an important accomplishment. Personally, I consider it more valuable than the mythical CFP which its subjective criteria for qualification.

You think Oregon winning the Big 10 this year is more valuable than OSU/ND winning the cfp on the 20th?
 
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It’s only “excessive” if you don’t consider winning your conference as an important accomplishment. Personally, I consider it more valuable than the mythical CFP which its subjective criteria for qualification.
RE mythical, let me offer my perspective.

The current B1G consists of a 1 division 18 team conference. Each conference member plays 9 games against other members of the conference. The teams with the top 2 best records get to play for the conference championship.

Because every team in the conference only plays 1/2 of the members, how at least potentially do you not have a similarly subjective situation here.

Your other conference members remember who won B1G championship last year. The entire college football world remembers who the national champion was. Even if you achieve that objective in a dubious manner (Hi Michigan fans)......
 
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It’s only “excessive” if you don’t consider winning your conference as an important accomplishment.
So why can’t winning the conference be determined like it was for over a century before the CCG began?
Personally, I consider it more valuable than the mythical CFP which its subjective criteria for qualification.
To each his own. Clemson was a conference champ this year, big whoop-dee-do.

I doubt there are many Oregon fans celebrating their team’s CCG win at this time. Think they would have preferred their chances with no CCG and less break between games.
 
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You think Oregon winning the Big 10 this year is more valuable than OSU/ND winning the cfp on the 20th?

I have never cared much about the MNC. In my opinion, the goal in college football is to win as many games as possible. So, winning the CFP would be awesome in that it requires winning an extra 3-4 games in a season which is quite an accomplishment, but I don't think the "title" of CFP is anything of any value as it is subjective and ill defined (you don't even have a set criteria to qualify and most 1-A teams are de facto unable to compete for it).

Winning a conference is a tangible real accomplishment.

But I realize I'm a luddite fighting against the NFL-ization of the college football.
 
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RE mythical, let me offer my perspective.

The current B1G consists of a 1 division 18 team conference. Each conference member plays 9 games against other members of the conference. The teams with the top 2 best records get to play for the conference championship.

Because every team in the conference only plays 1/2 of the members, how at least potentially do you not have a similarly subjective situation here.

Your other conference members remember who won B1G championship last year. The entire college football world remembers who the national champion was. Even if you achieve that objective in a dubious manner (Hi Michigan fans)......
It's not subjective if there are established rules set up ahead of time to determine who qualifies.

I do agree that conferences are too large though.
 
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So why can’t winning the conference be determined like it was for over a century before the CCG began?

To each his own. Clemson was a conference champ this year, big whoop-dee-do.

I doubt there are many Oregon fans celebrating their team’s CCG win at this time. Think they would have preferred their chances with no CCG and less break between games.
The long layoff for the top 4 seeds seems to fall under the law of unintended consequences. All 4 top seeds lost their first game.

Not all conferences are equal for certain. I don't think anybody would argue that winning the ACC or B12 is better than the BIG or SEC.
 
Future change depends on the goals of whoever the hell is in charge. If the goal of the powers that be is to crown a champion, an 8 team playoff is enough. If they want to make money, conference champ games will continue and the playoffs will increase to 16.

So, how long before it goes to 16?
 
It’s only “excessive” if you don’t consider winning your conference as an important accomplishment. Personally, I consider it more valuable than the mythical CFP which its subjective criteria for qualification.
Oregon won the Big Ten before the title game. Just like Texas, SMU and Boise State won their conference. You don't need a title game for a conference winner.
 
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It isn't meaningless as much as it is excessive and unnecessary. Oregon and Texas finished the regular season as #1 in their conference. That would have been fine for seeding the playoff. With the expanded playoff, let's just get to those games and play them after the regular season ends. The 2 week gap between ccg week and R1 was absurd.
I can buy that. Either way, they need to eliminate the long layoff for teams.

I also like the idea of keeping the big 6 bowls relevant, even if they bump the dates around for some. I view the Jan 01 bowls as the college equivalent of the Super Bowl. They need to keep that day special in my opinion. Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I'm glued to the TV that day, regardless of who is playing.
 
I have never cared much about the MNC. In my opinion, the goal in college football is to win as many games as possible. So, winning the CFP would be awesome in that it requires winning an extra 3-4 games in a season which is quite an accomplishment, but I don't think the "title" of CFP is anything of any value as it is subjective and ill defined (you don't even have a set criteria to qualify and most 1-A teams are de facto unable to compete for it).

Winning a conference is a tangible real accomplishment.

But I realize I'm a luddite fighting against the NFL-ization of the college football.
Winning games is great but you can win a ton of games without playing anyone--is that really impressive?
I you care about conference titles then what is ND ever playing for?
I get you and others loving what college football used to be but this change is about 40-50 years overdue
 
It's not subjective if there are established rules set up ahead of time to determine who qualifies.
If I intentionally tried to do so, I could come up with a multi-team 'tie' which would expose the established rules and make the B1G champion to be just as mythical as the CFP champion.

You just cannot make up rules that will always work with the conference size and the scheduling shortcomings that now exists in the B1G.
 
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I have never cared much about the MNC. In my opinion, the goal in college football is to win as many games as possible. So, winning the CFP would be awesome in that it requires winning an extra 3-4 games in a season which is quite an accomplishment, but I don't think the "title" of CFP is anything of any value as it is subjective and ill defined (you don't even have a set criteria to qualify and most 1-A teams are de facto unable to compete for it).

Winning a conference is a tangible real accomplishment.

But I realize I'm a luddite fighting against the NFL-ization of the college football.

You have an interesting opinion on it. I'm just not sure that I follow it completely.

Based on what you have written, you consider 1994, 2005, and 2016 to be more tangible and real accomplishments than 1982 and 1986?

Back to our original discussion point, the ccg was excessive this year. Oregon had 1st wrapped up when the regular season ended. I don't feel like winning that game drastically changes my perception of the '24 season if we still lose in the semi final game (or possibly the quarters if we had Oregon's path).
 
I'll also add that I think in general that playoffs are a stupid way to determine a "champion". One of the things I love about European soccer is that league championships are determined by regular season performance. Playing well all year round is important as opposed to just having a run of good games in a row at the end of the season. There's really no logical reason why being healthier or playing better for a few games at the end of the season should be more important that consistent quality play over the course of the duration of a season. Playoffs really only exist because they make money and are easy to market not because they are "better" at determining a championship.

In fact, the importance of the regular season was a huge reason I was drawn to college football as being superior to other sports. There was so much emphasis on just winning as many games as possible and avoiding losing; that made every game so intense as opposed to the "well, it's okay, we will try to win the next one" type of thought when you lose. It also is why I liked MLB so much given the grind of the regular season until they expanded the post-season significantly to lessen the value of regular season performance and winning your division.
 
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Future change depends on the goals of whoever the hell is in charge. If the goal of the powers that be is to crown a champion, an 8 team playoff is enough. If they want to make money, conference champ games will continue and the playoffs will increase to 16.

So, how long before it goes to 16?
At this point, the folks supplying the cash are in charge, and the goal for all involved is making money. For the networks, they're in business and a major goal of any business is making money. The schools have become slaves of their own appetites for revenue and can't say "no" to the folks providing it. That, from the schools' perspective, the system is becoming or has become a self-licking ice cream where more money must be spent so more money can be earned so more money can be spent has not registered with the folks who make the decisions at the schools. Until that happens, you are spot on - the CCGs will continue, and the playoffs are more likely to expand than anything else.

The situation with the ratings isn't particularly new. The biggest college games are a pretty good draw, but they're comparable to NFL regular season games at their best. If your comparison is other programming, it's pretty good deal; if it's the NFL, not so much, and there's no reason to think that will change.
 
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At this point, the folks supplying the cash are in charge, and the goal for all involved is making money. For the networks, they're in business and a major goal of any business is making money. The schools have become slaves of their own appetites for revenue and can't say "no" to the folks providing it. That, from the schools' perspective, the system is becoming or has become a self-licking ice cream where more money must be spent so more money can be earned so more money can be spent has not registered with the folks who make the decisions at the schools. Until that happens, you are spot on - the CCGs will continue, and the playoffs are more likely to expand than anything else.

The situation with the ratings isn't particularly new. The biggest college games are a pretty good draw, but they're comparable to NFL regular season games at their best. If your comparison is other programming, it's pretty good deal; if it's the NFL, not so much, there no reason to think that will change.
TV ad revenue must not be all that it was cracked up to be. I mention this because I believe that these playoff games would draw the largest TV audiences if they were broadcast by one of the free major over the air broadcast companies.

Apparently, college football can actually generate more revenue by restricting access (and viewership/future popularity) of its product.
 
I'll also add that I think in general that playoffs are a stupid way to determine a "champion". One of the things I love about European soccer is that league championships are determined by regular season performance. Playing well all year round is important as opposed to just having a run of good games in a row at the end of the season. There's really no logical reason why being healthier or playing better for a few games at the end of the season should be more important that consistent quality play over the course of the duration of a season. Playoffs really only exist because they make money and are easy to market not because they are "better" at determining a championship.

In fact, the importance of the regular season was a huge reason I was drawn to college football as being superior to other sports. There was so much emphasis on just winning as many games as possible and avoiding losing; that made every game so intense as opposed to the "well, it's okay, we will try to win the next one" type of thought when you lose. It also is why I liked MLB so much given the grind of the regular season until they expanded the post-season significantly to lessen the value of regular season performance and winning your division.

Well, let's go back to the old system with one significant change:
  1. The regular season can be anything you want as a school -- Cupcakes or revenue-generating games.
  2. You get invited by the owners of the bowls, as it once was, based on your season and how much revenue you can bring to the bowl/city.
  3. The Mythical National Champion is determined by a computer. No biases, no changes from year to year, and everyone will learn over time what is best to win in the computer's "mind."
Season ends with the NY6 on New Year's Eve/Day.

Portal opens on January 2. Some transfers may wind up enrolling a bit late but with their tutoring and the off season it should not be a problem.
 
I'll also add that I think in general that playoffs are a stupid way to determine a "champion". One of the things I love about European soccer is that league championships are determined by regular season performance. Playing well all year round is important as opposed to just having a run of good games in a row at the end of the season. There's really no logical reason why being healthier or playing better for a few games at the end of the season should be more important that consistent quality play over the course of the duration of a season. Playoffs really only exist because they make money and are easy to market not because they are "better" at determining a championship.

In fact, the importance of the regular season was a huge reason I was drawn to college football as being superior to other sports. There was so much emphasis on just winning as many games as possible and avoiding losing; that made every game so intense as opposed to the "well, it's okay, we will try to win the next one" type of thought when you lose. It also is why I liked MLB so much given the grind of the regular season until they expanded the post-season significantly to lessen the value of regular season performance and winning your division.
Good points. The playoffs in most sports have expanded over the years. One reason: $$$. Given your approach, Oregon would have been the nat'l champion.
 
Good points. The playoffs in most sports have expanded over the years. One reason: $$$. Given your approach, Oregon would have been the nat'l champion.

I'd be cool with that. Honestly, Oregon was far and away the most deserving team to win a "national championship" this season so I think that is preferable instead of a team that lost to a mediocre Michigan or to a MAC cupcake.
 
Apparently, college football can actually generate more revenue by restricting access (and viewership/future popularity) of its product.
I think a lot of assumptions are being made about future popularity that may or may not be true. CFB has a passionate core of fans and the assumption is that either they will remain passionate through fundamental changes to the nature of the game and those that lose interest will be replaced by other fans who like the new version more than the previous. We will find out if those assumptions are correct.
 
Good points. The playoffs in most sports have expanded over the years. One reason: $$$. Given your approach, Oregon would have been the nat'l champion.

4 team playoff: Oregon, UGA, Texas and Penn State.
BCS: Oregon and UGA.
1965 AP Vote before bowls: Oregon.

If your team is 1 of 2 who had an excellent regular season, you probably favor the older way.

If you are a fan of everyone else, the entire season was fun and the games had meaning down to the end. Week 14 of college football was a lot better than week 18 of the NFL (where the Chiefs sat their starters, intentionally lost to the Broncos, and kept the Bengals out of the playoff).

There are still quirks to fix. Bye teams not playing for 3 weeks is terrible.
 
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I'd be cool with that. Honestly, Oregon was far and away the most deserving team to win a "national championship" this season so I think that is preferable instead of a team that lost to a mediocre Michigan or to a MAC cupcake.
You can take it a little deeper. Should the NC be the team that was best over the course of a season or should it be who is the best at the end. There are arguments both ways. Season? Oregon Now? Not Oregon. One problem with the whole season is strength of schedule.
 
You can take it a little deeper. Should the NC be the team that was best over the course of a season or should it be who is the best at the end. There are arguments both ways. Season? Oregon Now? Not Oregon. One problem with the whole season is strength of schedule.

As I previously said in this thread, IMHO it is stupid to consider "being better at the end of the season" as somehow more important than the collective body of work for the season. It's just a bizarre concept that has sprung from the existence of playoffs. Is there any logical reason why games at the end of the season should count "more"? Why diminish the importance of other games rather than count them equally?

Why should tOSU be able to overcome a loss to mediocre Michigan or Notre Dame overcome a loss to a bad Northern Illinois team? But Oregon losing to Ohio St - after previously beating them! - is a final nail. There's no real logic there.

IMHO performance over all games should always be more important than in a select subset of games. Granted there can be difficulties in how to execute that concept effectively but I feel it is the best guiding principle. But playoffs are now so ingrained in American culture that pointing out their absurdity as a way to determine a "champion" seems like heresy.
 
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I think a lot of assumptions are being made about future popularity that may or may not be true. CFB has a passionate core of fans and the assumption is that either they will remain passionate through fundamental changes to the nature of the game and those that lose interest will be replaced by other fans who like the new version more than the previous. We will find out if those assumptions are correct.
Demographics of the CF fan base is going to play a role as well. The older fan base that lived through and remember our national championship years are grandfathered in.

Like yourself, I'm not certain about the variables in the process and making assumptions to predetermine an outcome.

As a general rule of thumb re marketing your product, you would want to get maximum eyeball exposure to grow and market the future growth of your product.

Tangential to what we are discussing, I've been hearing a lot of talk about the NBA's decline in popularity in the US. The majority of commercials and PSA's during their broadcast do little to foster the growth and embracement of young men playing having a good time playing these sports.

As I mentioned in another thread, NBC chose to broadcast a women's college volleyball game and put the PSU vs Washington Whiteout game on Peacock.

Interestingly enough, the popularity of the sport that they chose to broadcast on the free airwaves continues to grow.....
 
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It isn't meaningless as much as it is excessive and unnecessary. Oregon and Texas finished the regular season as #1 in their conference. That would have been fine for seeding the playoff. With the expanded playoff, let's just get to those games and play them after the regular season ends. The 2 week gap between ccg week and R1 was absurd.
They want to give them rest and then I guess finals are about that time for those that are still student athletes.

It is a tough thing to move everything up but I guess you could do it.

I think you need a little break between the reg season and post season. But I do think there is this psychological thing going on that college football is just not "built" to be stretched all the way to the 3rd week of Jan. NFL is king and that is their time.

I like the idea of keeping all games on a Sat or on New Years to uphold the CFB tradition. If you didn't play a CCG then you could start the first round two weeks after Thanksgiving. This year that would have been the weekend of 12/14 with one game on Fri 12/13. The next Fri- Sat you have the quarters on 12/20-12/21. Play semis on New Years Day. Then championship game on the following Saturday which this year would have been this past Saturday 1/11. There is the NFL conflict that I don't know what you do. Maybe slide the first NFL playoff game up to Thursday night. Not great because of short rest but not much of a choice. Then nothing on Fri. Saturday is the 2nd NFL game at 4pm EST. Then 8pm EST on that Sat is the NC game. Then the Sunday and Monday NFL schedule is the same.
 
As I previously said in this thread, IMHO it is stupid to consider "being better at the end of the season" as somehow more important than the collective body of work for the season. It's just a bizarre concept that has sprung from the existence of playoffs. Is there any logical reason why games at the end of the season should count "more"? Why diminish the importance of other games rather than count them equally?

Why should tOSU be able to overcome a loss to mediocre Michigan or Notre Dame overcome a loss to a bad Northern Illinois team? But Oregon losing to Ohio St - after previously beating them! - is a final nail. There's no real logic there.

IMHO performance over all games should always be more important than in a select subset of games. Granted there can be difficulties in how to execute that concept effectively but I feel it is the best guiding principle. But playoffs are now so ingrained in American culture that pointing out their absurdity as a way to determine a "champion" seems like heresy.
You have a good point, however eliminating playoffs to determine a champion has several problems. The first is the possibility of being in the playoffs keeps many fan bases engaged. Without playoffs, many fan bases would check out on the season by the midpoint. Cleveland Brown fans do this most seasons even with playoffs existing. Another problem is $$, which is the real reason for the existence of elite-level sports to begin with. Playoffs mean money. The sport that takes this to a ridiculous extreme is the NBA. They almost make the regular season meaningless. The players know this and obviously take some nights off. Finally, a team that improves during the season should be potentially rewarded at the end of the season.
 
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As I previously said in this thread, IMHO it is stupid to consider "being better at the end of the season" as somehow more important than the collective body of work for the season. It's just a bizarre concept that has sprung from the existence of playoffs. Is there any logical reason why games at the end of the season should count "more"? Why diminish the importance of other games rather than count them equally?

Why should tOSU be able to overcome a loss to mediocre Michigan or Notre Dame overcome a loss to a bad Northern Illinois team? But Oregon losing to Ohio St - after previously beating them! - is a final nail. There's no real logic there.

IMHO performance over all games should always be more important than in a select subset of games. Granted there can be difficulties in how to execute that concept effectively but I feel it is the best guiding principle. But playoffs are now so ingrained in American culture that pointing out their absurdity as a way to determine a "champion" seems like heresy.
If you think about this it has been this way forever even with no playoff. Lose early then work your way back benefitting from others losing and then you are right there again. Remember 1982 for us? Lose a terrible game to Alabama I think in early Oct but claw back into it and get into the NC game and win it as the #2 team.

The multiple loss thing is tough but when you have expanded teams in the playoff that is what you get. The problem this year with that Oregon vs OSU matchup early on the quarters is this inane conference champs rule that they get a top 4 seed. Eliminate that and OSU is 6th. They would not have played Oregon until the NC game. Although I think they would have played Texas in the quarters. The CCG games are a problem as well just mucking everything up for no good reason.

When OSU lost to Michigan it just threw everything off. Looking back it helped them from the standpoint of motivating them. They start the playoffs like a juggernaut and that loss did not hurt them one bit. But they had a tough draw on paper, Tenn then Oregon. They needed to perform and they did. They just steamrolled through it because they are a great team who is motivated. Look at our draw in comparison, SMU then Boise. Can you imagine what OSU would have done to those teams?!
 
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TV ad revenue must not be all that it was cracked up to be. I mention this because I believe that these playoff games would draw the largest TV audiences if they were broadcast by one of the free major over the air broadcast companies.

Apparently, college football can actually generate more revenue by restricting access (and viewership/future popularity) of its product.
Why not put the general broadcast of the playoff game on ABC and a special broadcast on espn with helmet cams and other special vr or 3d features to justify the subscription.
 
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It is a tough thing to move everything up but I guess you could do it.

FCS does it and there doesn't seem to be any issues.

They also have a more inclusive playoff and no ccgs.

I, however, do not ever watch FCS football. At least, I don't go out my way to.

I did go out of my way to watch as much of the cfp as possible. I try to watch college football from week 0 until the title game as much as I can. This format helped us this year. If we were still under the 4 team version, I believe ND would have jumped us for the 4 spot. And we would have played somebody in a NY6 game with a bunch of opt outs.

Does anybody think we have as many of our starters returning for '25 if we played a NY6 in the 4 team format? I think 85% would have turned pro.
 
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Why not put the general broadcast of the playoff game on ABC and a special broadcast on espn with helmet cams and other special vr or 3d features to justify the subscription.
With the amount of households who stream and the popularity of smart TVs, is ABC vs ESPN even an issue anymore.
 
FCS does it and there doesn't seem to be any issues.

They also have a more inclusive playoff and no ccgs.

I, however, do not ever watch FCS football. At least, I don't go out my way to.

I did go out of my way to watch as much of the cfp as possible. I try to watch college football from week 0 until the title game as much as I can. This format helped us this year. If we were still under the 4 team version, I believe ND would have jumped us for the 4 spot. And we would have played somebody in a NY6 game with a bunch of opt outs.

Does anybody think we have as many of our starters returning for '25 if we played a NY6 in the 4 team format? I think 85% would have turned pro.
The FCS, D2 and D3 playoffs were fun to watch. Great games. Some heated rivalry games.
 
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With the amount of households who stream and the popularity of smart TVs, is ABC vs ESPN even an issue anymore.

I would say yes. You have to be subscribed to something to watch either now basically.

I think too much is made of ratings for college football in comparison to the NFL as well. College is still niche. 30 million might watch from 10am Saturday morning until 2am Sunday morning, but that 30 million aren't watching every game they can. In the NFL, they are.
 
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I would say yes. You have to be subscribed to something to watch either now basically.

I think too much is made of ratings for college football in comparison to the NFL as well. College is still niche. 30 million might watch from 10am Saturday morning until 2am Sunday morning, but that 30 million aren't watching every game they can. In the NFL, they are.
Yep. College will never get the ratings the NFL does nationally. The NFL could put a game on at 10 am on a Wednesday and it will get good ratings.
 
As I previously said in this thread, IMHO it is stupid to consider "being better at the end of the season" as somehow more important than the collective body of work for the season. It's just a bizarre concept that has sprung from the existence of playoffs. Is there any logical reason why games at the end of the season should count "more"? Why diminish the importance of other games rather than count them equally?

Why should tOSU be able to overcome a loss to mediocre Michigan or Notre Dame overcome a loss to a bad Northern Illinois team? But Oregon losing to Ohio St - after previously beating them! - is a final nail. There's no real logic there.

IMHO performance over all games should always be more important than in a select subset of games. Granted there can be difficulties in how to execute that concept effectively but I feel it is the best guiding principle. But playoffs are now so ingrained in American culture that pointing out their absurdity as a way to determine a "champion" seems like heresy.
You are essentially correct and I agree with you. What exists now is really nothing more than an entertaining end of season tournament.

If you want a true playoff it should consist of nothing more than all fbs conference winners or conference division winners. That's a real "playoff". Of course it won't make as much money and if people are honest that's what it's all about.

Now that what used to be illegal is legal we will see the conferences continue to even out as evidenced by the decline of the SEC and the rise of other conferences. It's all about the money

I don't think we will ever see a true playoff in cfb. We will continue to get a nice end of season tournament. A 3rd or 4th place Alabama will always claim they are better than the winner of xyz conference. Maybe better but not more deserving of a chance in a true playoff. Winning should matter to be called a champion.
 
As I previously said in this thread, IMHO it is stupid to consider "being better at the end of the season" as somehow more important than the collective body of work for the season. It's just a bizarre concept that has sprung from the existence of playoffs. Is there any logical reason why games at the end of the season should count "more"? Why diminish the importance of other games rather than count them equally?

Why should tOSU be able to overcome a loss to mediocre Michigan or Notre Dame overcome a loss to a bad Northern Illinois team? But Oregon losing to Ohio St - after previously beating them! - is a final nail. There's no real logic there.

IMHO performance over all games should always be more important than in a select subset of games. Granted there can be difficulties in how to execute that concept effectively but I feel it is the best guiding principle. But playoffs are now so ingrained in American culture that pointing out their absurdity as a way to determine a "champion" seems like heresy.
Ordinarily, I would agree with you. But in CFB, we have a situation where teams play wildly different schedules. As a result, it is difficult to determine if a team that is undefeated in the ACC, Big 12, or MWC is better than a 1-loss or 2-loss Big Ten or SEC team. Given that we now have large, unwieldy conferences, it can also be difficult to determine if a 1-loss team with an easy schedule is better than a 2-loss team from the same conference who had a more difficult schedule. Because of the wide variance between the schedules of different teams, it makes sense to have some sort of system that puts teams who have a legitimate argument for being the best team in the country into a playoff so that they can settle things on the field. As we saw in 1994, the old bowl system didn't work.

Personally, I think the best thing that happened as a result of a 12-team playoff is that it made November highly compelling for CFB. It was probably the best November for CFB that I can ever recall.
 
Why do college football fans and the corresponding media talking heads obsess so much over crap like coaching salaries, TV ratings, media payout amounts, etc. Who cares, I just want to watch football and be a fan. You don't hear fans of any other sport brag about crap like how good the ratings are for their team or how much more money their team or division makes than some other team or division.
 
Why do college football fans and the corresponding media talking heads obsess so much over crap like coaching salaries, TV ratings, media payout amounts, etc. Who cares, I just want to watch football and be a fan. You don't hear fans of any other sport brag about crap like how good the ratings are for their team or how much more money their team or division makes than some other team or division.
Because they have shit ratings. See the NBA being angry at the NFL for stealing Xmas. March Madness talks about ratings. Anyone doing well does.
 
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