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The final four in the expanded CFB playoff tanked in tv ratings for both games.




Clay Travis asks why. Different theories on X such as lack of ABC viewing options, thurs/Friday traditionally poor viewership, season dragging too long, 12 is too many teams, NIL and the portal eroding the interest, etc. It is concerning that the new format produced less interest. I personally think the format needs to reduce to 8 teams and the final 4 should be on New Years.
Nobody in the South watched? ;)
 
Games should have been Saturday at 4 and 8.
I know they would compete with the nfl but college football is on Saturday
That's part of the problem right there. Another part of the problem is over exposure to sports in general. On January 2, 1987 Penn State played Miami in the Fiesta Bowl and I still think it's the highest rated ball game ever.

That was the beginning of the days when you could probably see your favorite team play every single time, at least if your favorite team was a big-time college football team. A few years earlier I was accused of seeing Penn State maybe 3 to 4 times a year, maybe another time as a ball game.

There's just so much sports to watch these days, along with so many more entertainment options that didn't exist 30 to 40 years ago. We're going to have to decide if we want a system with less games in in the playoffs which I doubt will never happen. Look at every other major sport and check the viewership from maybe the all-time highs?. I don't think any World Series has had the same ratings since the 1975 series between the Reds and the Red Sox.

Again people had less choices back then, and if you want an attic don't account I myself don't watch many of these sports anymore because I don't believe we need expanded playoffs. Especially in baseball .

I watched two sports these days Penn State football and Penn State wrestling. I watch nothing else.
 
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That's part of the problem right there. Another part of the problem is over exposure to sports in general. On January 2, 1987 Penn State played Miami in the Fiesta Bowl and I still think it's the highest rated ball game ever.

That was the beginning of the days when you could probably see your favorite team play every single time, at least if your favorite team was a big-time college football team. A few years earlier I was accused of seeing Penn State maybe 3 to 4 times a year, maybe another time as a ball game.

There's just so much sports to watch these days, along with so many more entertainment options that didn't exist 30 to 40 years ago. We're going to have to decide if we want a system with less games in in the playoffs which I doubt will never happen. Look at every other major sport and check the viewership from maybe the all-time highs?. I don't think any World Series has had the same ratings since the 1975 series between the Reds and the Red Sox.

Again people had less choices back then, and if you want an attic don't account I myself don't watch many of these sports anymore because I don't believe we need expanded playoffs. Especially in baseball .

I watched two sports these days Penn State football and Penn State wrestling. I watch nothing else.
And every decision that is made re college football is done with the objective to maximize revenue without much regard to promoting and cultivating the sports future popularity.

This is evident in the commercials that accompany the broadcast. Young boys are never shown participating in sports and recreation the way that we did when we were growing up.

The marketing that accompanies sports programming would lead you to believe that men - the people that you are watching play, coach referee and broadcast the game - are most knowledgeable about laundry detergents, cleaning products and food preparation.

The boy says that he wants to be a 'kid's first pair of blue jeans'. The girl says she wants to be a kid's 1st computer. And as adults, she is the expert in cars, computers, investments, technology, research, athletic training, etc.

And the sports program advertising provides for zero depiction of a family with a father and mother in traditional roles.

JMO. Rant over.
 
That's part of the problem right there. Another part of the problem is over exposure to sports in general. On January 2, 1987 Penn State played Miami in the Fiesta Bowl and I still think it's the highest rated ball game ever.

That was the beginning of the days when you could probably see your favorite team play every single time, at least if your favorite team was a big-time college football team. A few years earlier I was accused of seeing Penn State maybe 3 to 4 times a year, maybe another time as a ball game.

There's just so much sports to watch these days, along with so many more entertainment options that didn't exist 30 to 40 years ago. We're going to have to decide if we want a system with less games in in the playoffs which I doubt will never happen. Look at every other major sport and check the viewership from maybe the all-time highs?. I don't think any World Series has had the same ratings since the 1975 series between the Reds and the Red Sox.

Again people had less choices back then, and if you want an attic don't account I myself don't watch many of these sports anymore because I don't believe we need expanded playoffs. Especially in baseball .

I watched two sports these days Penn State football and Penn State wrestling. I watch nothing else.
The reason less people watch MLB is because the people running it have ruined it and people aren’t nearly as interested anymore. By contrast the people running the NFL so far have built it into the most popular form of entertainment, not just sports, in our country. The NFL has thrived while MLB recedes. Similarly the NBA, though popular, is in decline while hockey continues to grow. College football has placed themselves firmly in the declining category due to their mismanagement. They have virtually abdicated management to be truthful. I don’t see these trends reversing anytime soon.
 
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I don't have cable. Watched PSU vs ND game @ a friend's house. Probably won't watch the final. If it was on ABC I would watch.

Cant watch cable when you dont have cable. MNF dropped as soon as it went to cable. Sunday Night Football then became the prime game.
 
FCS does it and there doesn't seem to be any issues.

They also have a more inclusive playoff and no ccgs.

I, however, do not ever watch FCS football. At least, I don't go out my way to.

I did go out of my way to watch as much of the cfp as possible. I try to watch college football from week 0 until the title game as much as I can. This format helped us this year. If we were still under the 4 team version, I believe ND would have jumped us for the 4 spot. And we would have played somebody in a NY6 game with a bunch of opt outs.

Does anybody think we have as many of our starters returning for '25 if we played a NY6 in the 4 team format? I think 85% would have turned pro.
Agree, a larger playoff is your friend for everyone not named Ohio State and Georgia.
 
As I previously said in this thread, IMHO it is stupid to consider "being better at the end of the season" as somehow more important than the collective body of work for the season. It's just a bizarre concept that has sprung from the existence of playoffs. Is there any logical reason why games at the end of the season should count "more"? Why diminish the importance of other games rather than count them equally?

Why should tOSU be able to overcome a loss to mediocre Michigan or Notre Dame overcome a loss to a bad Northern Illinois team? But Oregon losing to Ohio St - after previously beating them! - is a final nail. There's no real logic there.
Better at the end of the season is more relevant than good at the beginning. Teams are experimenting and feeling themselves out at the beginning of the season. In 2014 OSU looked terrible in loss to Va. Tech. Killed wisconsin 59 to 0 in Big Ten championship game and eventually won the national championship game.

Your reference to first Oregon game shows the nebulousness of your view. OSU played Oregon at home in an extremely noisy environment and only lost by one point. Odds are OSU would have won on neutral field.
 
California fires…. Was the story last week and especially in that market.
Absolutely. I can speak to this. I live in Pasadena just below Eaton Canyon golf course. We evacuated on Tuesday night as the fire became visible . We were very lucky our house and neighborhood were spared with only minor issues. Some of my wife (she works at Caltech) and my co-workers were not so lucky (I work at Cal State LA). 300 of Caltech/JPL staff lost their homes and about 20 of my campus. The images on the news dont actually do justice to the type of devastation.

We were able to come back to our house on Thursday evening. There were so many people who left town--regardless if you were in the Pasadena/Altadena (Eaton Fire) or Palisades/Malibu areas. Remember there were also small and dangerous fires that popped up in/near Hollywood as well on Thursday. LA metro is a 20 million media market. Of course not everyone is going to tune in but between our media market and others who may have been casual viewers were likely tuned into the news.
 
Because they have shit ratings. See the NBA being angry at the NFL for stealing Xmas. March Madness talks about ratings. Anyone doing well does.
I have never seen NFL fans or NFL media share posts about some team getting better TV ratings than another and the NFL has the best ratings in the business. It's just irrelevant stuff that for some reason CFB fans like to obsess over.
 
I have never seen NFL fans or NFL media share posts about some team getting better TV ratings than another and the NFL has the best ratings in the business. It's just irrelevant stuff that for some reason CFB fans like to obsess over.
NFL has revenue sharing so it doesn't matter what team gets the best ratings because they all cash in. It matters im FBS because it drives TV money
 
Not quite sure what the point of this thread was but the largest CF Playoff audience ever was the 2015 OSU-Alabama at 28.3 million. Texas-OSU drew 20 million and with the two largest fan bases in CF, OSU-ND could very well shatter it on Monday. How are they tanking?

 
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