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This is among the reasons why my love for all things PSU is waning

You missed the point, or chose to ignore it.

I didn't miss your point and your dumbing-down "relativist" point that the "success" of University Program (and its Alumnus' pride in those successes) should be judged solely on wins and losses and "wins and losses" alone (i.e., "the ends justifies the means" versus "the ends NEVER justifies the means") is nonsense as far is this PSU Alumnus is concerned! I doubt you're even a PSU Alumnus, so don't lecture me about what I am, and am not, allowed to be "proud of."
 
I agree in that 3K is crazy and no one will most likely pay that.....but if you want to ask no problem with that as this is America. I see some on stubhub for those games listed at 3500, not sure if same person. I picked up one for Nebraska game for 195, which I thought was reasonable.

I also agree with MtNittany that there is no reason they could not have enlarged the ORV lot or moved the gameday RV lot to allow for more spots as this is a GREAT PSU tradition that my family loves. I was very happy to score my pass....even thought I still don't have in hand....so hopefully I will get it soon once they actually get out to the owners. Have been reading with great interest the few threads on here about ticket/passes delay in shipping, so I not too worried yet.
 
Massimo lives in NY.

Why do you say that PSU is not a state school? Residents pay approximately 1/2 the tuition paid by residents of other states.

If you're saying that PSU is a bigger school, The University at Buffalo has an enrollment of approximately 30,000. I suspect you're saying that PSU is a higher quality school. Maybe, but a lot would depend on your major.

Again genius, Cornell is the Public Land Grant University in the State of New York (i.e., the actual school that is comparable to PSU's Public Founding) - are you really trying to suggest that Cornell is "free"? The "State University System of New York" (i.e., CUNY, SUNY-Buffallo, SUNY-Binghamton, etc...) are similar in structure to PA's "State University System" (i.e., Edinboro, LHU, Slippery Rock, etc...). However, NY State's named and dedicated "Land Grant Public Institution" is Cornell and Pennsylvania's is "The Pennsylvania State University". Your comparison of PSU to to the "SUNY System" is not "analogous" regardless of how many times you continue to claim it is "analogous". You simply repeatedly claiming it is so, doesn't make it so!
 
No, you just got caught not knowing what you are arguing about, and looked for a way out. You're on ignore.

Lol. Cool story bro. I did not get caught about anything. Since when is ORV at Beaver Stadium? You typed at Beaver Stadium. I am not looking for a way out.

Funny you cannot own your words and get all mad. Get a life.
 
Your comparison is incorrect. Cornell is the "Land Grant University" in New York and the tuition isn't free jasper. Cornell was split at the time of its naming as the NY State Land Grant Public University - its colleges which were funded under the "Morrill Land Grant Act of 1862" (Engineering, Agriculture and Teaching) became a Pulbic University, while other Colleges were maintained as Private Colleges, which remains true to this day (i.e., Cornell has both Private and Pulblic Colleges within its overal "Institutional Structure" which predates the Morrill Act). See the following LINK directly at Cornell's website, which clearly states that Cornell is a member of the "Association of Public and Land Grant Universities". PSU as an institution pre-dated the "Morrill Land Grant Act" as well, but when PSU was "reorganized" as PSU and named as the sole-recipient of the Federal Land Grant Act proceeds, PSU was structured as a "singular" PUBLIC INSTITUTION via Legislation by the PA Government that not only formed the new University, created it's seminal "Founding Charter" (and bylaws), but also DEEDED the University to Citizens of Pennsylvania in perpetuity (i.e., PSU is a part of the "Public Trust" just as a State Park is....).

The Land Grant Universities (Colleges in the case of Cornell) are "Public Institutions" in that they are deeded to the "Public" in perpetuity via their founding legislation. The nomenclature that Pennsylvania uses in regards to it's "State University System" (i.e., schools run directly by the PA Department of Education rather than Public Schools that are "self-governed" by charter) is just that "nomenclature". Yes, the PA "State University System" are "Public Schools", but so is the "Pennsylvania State University" and all of its "branch campus system" a Public School as well.

Try again, Chewie. MIT and Tuskegee are both private and both land grant. Both Cornell and the State of New York consider the four statutory or contract colleges to be private even though the ag school has "New York State College" as part of its official name.

You really ought to pursue pretzel-twisting as profession.
 
I understand the concept of demand v. supply, but I really hope this entrepeneur - who has stones to list his Overnight RV passes for $3k each - finds himself with with an acute urinary tract infection...

https://pennstate.craigslist.org/tix/d/overnight-rv-for-pitt-and-mich/6268872818.html

Thankfully with my kids' HS football schedules neither of those contests were options for me... though with patience and persistence, I was able to find a Blue (preferred) RV parking for Rutgers for $150... but there are more than a couple Nittwits listing theirs for $4/$500 ...

Makes me not regret (so much) my son's recent decision to stiff-arm the prospect/reality of out-of-state PSU tuition and attend college elsewhere...

Can't deny the odor of "country club" at PSU was always there... but, to me, the stench is turning me off to what should otherwise be a great way to spend a fall afternoon with family and friends... this is the "culture problem" that has been turning me, an alumnus, off to things Penn State...
Send him a response and tell him your displeasure. Seriously! That price is ridiculous
 
Send him a response and tell him your displeasure. Seriously! That price is ridiculous
It's not the seller that is to blame. Free country and all w/ transferable passes. It's the stupidity of the U to create an underground market (and eschew revenue) for a product that is as available as a tractor and a reel mower are.
 
Your comparison is incorrect. Cornell is the "Land Grant University" in New York and the tuition isn't free jasper. Cornell was split at the time of its naming as the NY State Land Grant Public University - its colleges which were funded under the "Morrill Land Grant Act of 1862" (Engineering, Agriculture and Teaching) became a Pulbic University, while other Colleges were maintained as Private Colleges, which remains true to this day (i.e., Cornell has both Private and Pulblic Colleges within its overal "Institutional Structure" which predates the Morrill Act). See the following LINK directly at Cornell's website, which clearly states that Cornell is a member of the "Association of Public and Land Grant Universities". PSU as an institution pre-dated the "Morrill Land Grant Act" as well, but when PSU was "reorganized" as PSU and named as the sole-recipient of the Federal Land Grant Act proceeds, PSU was structured as a "singular" PUBLIC INSTITUTION via Legislation by the PA Government that not only formed the new University, created it's seminal "Founding Charter" (and bylaws), but also DEEDED the University to Citizens of Pennsylvania in perpetuity (i.e., PSU is a part of the "Public Trust" just as a State Park is....).

The Land Grant Universities (Colleges in the case of Cornell) are "Public Institutions" in that they are deeded to the "Public" in perpetuity via their founding legislation. The nomenclature that Pennsylvania uses in regards to it's "State University System" (i.e., schools run directly by the PA Department of Education rather than Public Schools that are "self-governed" by charter) is just that "nomenclature". Yes, the PA "State University System" are "Public Schools", but so is the "Pennsylvania State University" and all of its "branch campus system" a Public School as well.
Hemingway is going to come back from the dead and take his shotgun to you instead this time.

I hereby dub thee, Sir Bushwood the Verbose.
 
You need to be able to read as well. Go back and see what Mt Nittany typed. My Nittany says "at Beaver Stadium." I said poster not OP. I will post it for you to make it easier for you.

"The issue is that the newly formed RV HOA (some post here) along w/ the U created this problem. That you can not provide a place to park an RV on a Thursday or Friday night @ Beaver Stadium is astoundingly stupid."

and why does at beaver stadium have to be one of those said lots that you bring up? there are countless lots that can be used for the overnight RV that are around the stadium. I consider at Beaver Stadium any lot that is in use on game day. You consider it the paved commuter lots only why?
 
It's not the seller that is to blame. Free country and all w/ transferable passes. It's the stupidity of the U to create an underground market (and eschew revenue) for a product that is as available as a tractor and a reel mower are.
Of course he can respond to the ad and let him know his displeasure. Free market? Free speech!!!!
 
It is one thing with penn state success in the future that the administration will take full advantage of jacking up all prices. Because of that people will try to get max dollars for anything they can.
 
I understand the concept of demand v. supply, but I really hope this entrepeneur - who has stones to list his Overnight RV passes for $3k each - finds himself with with an acute urinary tract infection...

https://pennstate.craigslist.org/tix/d/overnight-rv-for-pitt-and-mich/6268872818.html

Thankfully with my kids' HS football schedules neither of those contests were options for me... though with patience and persistence, I was able to find a Blue (preferred) RV parking for Rutgers for $150... but there are more than a couple Nittwits listing theirs for $4/$500 ...

Makes me not regret (so much) my son's recent decision to stiff-arm the prospect/reality of out-of-state PSU tuition and attend college elsewhere...

Can't deny the odor of "country club" at PSU was always there... but, to me, the stench is turning me off to what should otherwise be a great way to spend a fall afternoon with family and friends... this is the "culture problem" that has been turning me, an alumnus, off to things Penn State...
I hear you. I remember 30-40 years ago, I'd game day park (legally and for free) in a campus lot. I used to prefer a certain small lot that would empty really fast.
 
I didn't miss your point and your dumbing-down "relativist" point that the "success" of University Program (and its Alumnus' pride in those successes) should be judged solely on wins and losses and "wins and losses" alone (i.e., "the ends justifies the means" versus "the ends NEVER justifies the means") is nonsense as far is this PSU Alumnus is concerned! I doubt you're even a PSU Alumnus, so don't lecture me about what I am, and am not, allowed to be "proud of."
You got that from my post? Seriously? Well, then I won't make any effort to clarify it for you as I doubt I have much chance of success. You were right though. I'm not really a Penn State alum. I was not accepted at PSU so I had to set my sights lower. I got my BA from Yale and a law degree from Harvard. After all these years you were the 1st person to call me out. I'm going to put you on ignore. You see right through me.
 
Try again, Chewie. MIT and Tuskegee are both private and both land grant. Both Cornell and the State of New York consider the four statutory or contract colleges to be private even though the ag school has "New York State College" as part of its official name.

You really ought to pursue pretzel-twisting as profession.

Wrong again oh great "Oz".....and here is the LINK to prove it directly from Cornell's website! Gee, why would "NY State Resident's" be SUBSIDIZED by the State of New York within the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" versus "Non-NY State Residents" OR attending the "Private Endowed Colleges" as a "NY State Resident" to the tune of 50%!?!? ["Non-NY State Residents" pay the same amount whether they attend the "Private Endowed Colleges" or the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" - the identical amount "NY State Residents" attending the "Private Endowed Colleges" pay - $52,853. Only "NY State Residents" attending the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" pay the reduced NEW YORK STATE SUBSIDIZED Tuition Rate for the General NY State Public of $35,483].

So take your arrogant, wrong as usual Great Oz "little pud behind the curtain" self off to gnaw and chew on your "wrong as per usual" bone.....

Here is what Cornell lists at their website under the "Cost to Attend" tab:

Total cost of attendance
The total cost of attending Cornell includes tuition, student fees, and expenses for housing and dining, books, supplies and personal items. Your tuition depends on which Cornell undergraduate college you enroll in and whether you are a New York State resident.


Again, Tuition for "NY State Resident" attending "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" = $35,483.

Tuition for "NY State Resident" attending "Private Endowed Colleges" = $52,853.

Tuition for "Non-NY State Resident" regardless of what College they attend at Cornell = $52,853.

But according to the ever-stupendous and stupefying "Oz", the "Land Grant Colleges" aren't NY State-Subsidized based on NY Residency via NY State Legislation (i.e., making them Public Subsidized Colleges to the "NY State Public".....otherwise known as a "NY State Resident") - go figure!
 
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Wrong again oh great "Oz".....and here is the LINK to prove it directly from Cornell's website! Gee, why would "NY State Resident's" be SUBSIDIZED by the State of New York within the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" versus "Non-NY State Residents" OR attending the "Private Endowed Colleges" as a "NY State Resident" to the tune of 50%!?!? ["Non-NY State Residents" pay the same amount whether they attend the "Private Endowed Colleges" or the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" - the identical amount "NY State Residents" attending the "Private Endowed Colleges" pay - $52,853. Only "NY State Residents" attending the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" pay the reduced NEW YORK STATE SUBSIDIZED Tuition Rate for the General NY State Public of $35,483].

So take your arrogant, wrong as usual Great Oz "little pud behind the curtain" self off to gnaw and chew on your "wrong as per usual" bone.....

Here is what Cornell lists at their website under the "Cost to Attend" tab:



Again, Tuition for "NY State Resident" attending "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" = $35,483.

Tuition for "NY State Resident" attending "Private Endowed Colleges" = $52,853.

Tuition for "Non-NY State Resident" regardless of what College they attend at Cornell = $52,853.

But according to the ever-stupendous and stupefying "Oz", the "Land Grant Colleges" aren't NY State-Subsidized based on NY Residency via NY State Legislation (i.e., making them Public Subsidized Colleges to the "NY State Public".....otherwise known as a "NY State Resident") - go figure!
Just so I have this straight. It's ok for you to call people names and go on and on and on with your rants but you call out others who call you names and say they violate board rules? Classic BUSHWOOD

Pure entertainment.
 
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You need to be able to read as well. Go back and see what Mt Nittany typed. My Nittany says "at Beaver Stadium." I said poster not OP. I will post it for you to make it easier for you.

"The issue is that the newly formed RV HOA (some post here) along w/ the U created this problem. That you can not provide a place to park an RV on a Thursday or Friday night @ Beaver Stadium is astoundingly stupid."

Who are you supposed to be? Here less than a month with 11 posts and picking fights.
 
Wrong again oh great "Oz".....and here is the LINK to prove it directly from Cornell's website! Gee, why would "NY State Resident's" be SUBSIDIZED by the State of New York within the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" versus "Non-NY State Residents" OR attending the "Private Endowed Colleges" as a "NY State Resident" to the tune of 50%!?!? ["Non-NY State Residents" pay the same amount whether they attend the "Private Endowed Colleges" or the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" - the identical amount "NY State Residents" attending the "Private Endowed Colleges" pay - $52,853. Only "NY State Residents" attending the "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" pay the reduced NEW YORK STATE SUBSIDIZED Tuition Rate for the General NY State Public of $35,483].

So take your arrogant, wrong as usual Great Oz "little pud behind the curtain" self off to gnaw and chew on your "wrong as per usual" bone.....

Here is what Cornell lists at their website under the "Cost to Attend" tab:



Again, Tuition for "NY State Resident" attending "Land Grant (State Contract) Colleges" = $35,483.

Tuition for "NY State Resident" attending "Private Endowed Colleges" = $52,853.

Tuition for "Non-NY State Resident" regardless of what College they attend at Cornell = $52,853.

But according to the ever-stupendous and stupefying "Oz", the "Land Grant Colleges" aren't NY State-Subsidized based on NY Residency via NY State Legislation (i.e., making them Public Subsidized Colleges to the "NY State Public".....otherwise known as a "NY State Resident") - go figure!

Really simple, you stupid little dipshit:: New York state residents pay a lower tuition at Cornell's four statutory schools because of a contract between the private University and the State of New York. A similar arrangement exists between New York and Alfred University for the New York State College of Ceramics. By your logic that must make Alfred both a land grant and state university. Oh, and you still haven't explained how MIT and Tuskegee are private.

I don't know what' funnier, watching you twist yourself in a ball of yarn or the population of this board, which gets smaller on a daily basis, who believe you have anything of value to say.

And about those board rules, asscheese...
 
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Just so I have this straight. It's ok for you to call people names and go on and on and on with your rants but you call out others who call you names and say they violate board rules? Classic BUSHWOOD

Pure entertainment.

Just so I have this straight, where did I call this poster a name in the post of mine he responded to as you are accusing me of? Gee, a FALSE ACCUSATION MADE-UP LIE by you - another Board Violation upon me, go figure. Consider yourself reported.
 
Just so I have this straight. It's ok for you to call people names and go on and on and on with your rants but you call out others who call you names and say they violate board rules? Classic BUSHWOOD

Pure entertainment.

Simple explanation; as with almost everything else Chewie makes up board rules as he goes along. Ordinarily, I'd applaud creativity, but in his case I haven't seen anything that I would expect from anyone older than eight.
 
Just so I have this straight, where did I call this poster a name in the post of mine he responded to as you are accusing me of? Gee, a FALSE ACCUSATION MADE-UP LIE by you - another Board Violation upon me, go figure. Consider yourself reported.
But gee. You do it all the time and did it in the very next time you responded to fairgambit. Well gee it's a trend with you
 
Just so I have this straight, where did I call this poster a name in the post of mine he responded to as you are accusing me of? Gee, a FALSE ACCUSATION MADE-UP LIE by you - another Board Violation upon me, go figure. Consider yourself reported.


Shit, Westcoast, are you so desperate that you are now violating Chewie?
 
Massimo lives in NY.

Why do you say that PSU is not a state school? Residents pay approximately 1/2 the tuition paid by residents of other states.

If you're saying that PSU is a bigger school, The University at Buffalo has an enrollment of approximately 30,000. I suspect you're saying that PSU is a higher quality school. Maybe, but a lot would depend on your major.

If you're not aware that PSU Isn't a state school then you need to do some research into the difference between the "PA State System of Higher Education Schools (PASSHE)" and the "PA Commonwealth System of Higher Education aka PA State Related Universities".

There are 4 PA State Related Universities - Pitt, Penn State, Temple and Lincoln University.

There are 14 PASSHE schools -
Others have started arguing the differences between the states - but I just wanted to share the different kinds of "state" schools in PA and that you should educate yourself in how they are funded before drawing parallels between the SUNY schools and a state related school like Penn State.
 
Really simple, you stupid little dipshit:: New York state residents pay a lower tuition at Cornell's four statutory schools because of a contract between the private University and the State of New York. A similar arrangement exists between New York and Alfred University for the New York State College of Ceramics. By your logic that must make Alfred both a land grant and state university. Oh, and you still haven't explained how MIT and Tuskegee are private.

I don't know what' funnier, watching you twist yourself in a ball of yarn or the population of this board, which gets smaller on a daily basis, who believe you have anything of value to say.

And about those board rules, asscheese...

Only 4 of the Colleges are Publicly Subsidized and identified as "Land Grant Colleges" as the link makes quite clear. Hysterical that you continue to maintain that these 4 Colleges are not CLEARLY the named NY State Land Grant Institutions named as such by NY State Government Legislation (i.e., Publicly Subsidized) - go figure. Yea, you really won another round of your self-declared winner bone-chewing contest.....LOL.
 
Only 4 of the Colleges are Publicly Subsidized and identified as "Land Grant Colleges" as the link makes quite clear. Hysterical that you continue to maintain that these 4 Colleges are not CLEARLY the named NY State Land Grant Institutions named as such by NY State Government Legislation (i.e., Publicly Subsidized) - go figure. Yea, you really won another round of your self-declared winner bone-chewing contest.....LOL.

Alfred.....

MIT.....Tuskegee.....
 
Simple explanation; as with almost everything else Chewie makes up board rules as he goes along. Ordinarily, I'd applaud creativity, but in his case I haven't seen anything that I would expect from anyone older than eight.

I make up Board Rules? You are the party initiating the name-calling as the record clearly demonstrates! BTW, you are laughably wrong about Cornell not being the NY State GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIZED Land Grant Institution via NY State Government Legislation for specific Colleges (namely the Colleges SPECIFIED within the Land Grant Legislation). Cornell's Land Grant Colleges are without question the analogous comparison to PSU, not the SUNY System, but keep chewing your bone Ozzy, it looks like there's plenty left there on that dinosaur bone.
 
If you're not aware that PSU Isn't a state school then you need to do some research into the difference between the "PA State System of Higher Education Schools (PASSHE)" and the "PA Commonwealth System of Higher Education aka PA State Related Universities".

There are 4 PA State Related Universities - Pitt, Penn State, Temple and Lincoln University.

There are 14 PASSHE schools -
Others have started arguing the differences between the states - but I just wanted to share the different kinds of "state" schools in PA and that you should educate yourself in how they are funded before drawing parallels between the SUNY schools and a state related school like Penn State.

They are all "Public Institutions" given the definition of the term. Moreover, there is only one named "Land Grant" Flagship Institution created by the Government of Pennsylvania (its founding creation, legislation and charter makes it defacto a Public Insitution) to act in such capacity. PSU is different than every other school you list in this regard, yes it is a "Public Institution" as this list confirms, but it is the ONLY institution on the list CREATED by the Government of Pennsylvania via specific Legislation to be endowed as, and act as, the State's Flagship "Land Grant University" under the Federal Morrill Act of 1862.
 
Hemingway is going to come back from the dead and take his shotgun to you instead this time.

I hereby dub thee, Sir Bushwood the Verbose.

Another know-nothing non-PSU Alum chimes in with his irrelevance....go figure! I hereby dub thee Lame-o Apparent Douchey Villanova Lawyer The Supreme.
 
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Your comparison is incorrect. Cornell is the "Land Grant University" in New York and the tuition isn't free jasper. Cornell was split at the time of its naming as the NY State Land Grant Public University - its colleges which were funded under the "Morrill Land Grant Act of 1862" (Engineering, Agriculture and Teaching) became a Pulbic University, while other Colleges were maintained as Private Colleges, which remains true to this day (i.e., Cornell has both Private and Pulblic Colleges within its overal "Institutional Structure" which predates the Morrill Act). See the following LINK directly at Cornell's website, which clearly states that Cornell is a member of the "Association of Public and Land Grant Universities". PSU as an institution pre-dated the "Morrill Land Grant Act" as well, but when PSU was "reorganized" as PSU and named as the sole-recipient of the Federal Land Grant Act proceeds, PSU was structured as a "singular" PUBLIC INSTITUTION via Legislation by the PA Government that not only formed the new University, created it's seminal "Founding Charter" (and bylaws), but also DEEDED the University to Citizens of Pennsylvania in perpetuity (i.e., PSU is a part of the "Public Trust" just as a State Park is....).

The Land Grant Universities (Colleges in the case of Cornell) are "Public Institutions" in that they are deeded to the "Public" in perpetuity via their founding legislation. The nomenclature that Pennsylvania uses in regards to it's "State University System" (i.e., schools run directly by the PA Department of Education rather than Public Schools that are "self-governed" by charter) is just that "nomenclature". Yes, the PA "State University System" are "Public Schools", but so is the "Pennsylvania State University" and all of its "branch campus system" a Public School as well.
Thanks for the history lesson but the last time I looked PSU wasn't a private Ivy League University.


I think PSU is a great school but it is one of the most expensive in the B1G.
 
What is the going rate to tailgate with an RV at LeMoyne? Big football up there.

Funny you mention that... as an undergrad back in 85/86/87 i would argue PSU was THE perfect football experience... .. used to be everyone sat in the same bowl and pretty much got stuck with an aluminum bleacher that left marks in your fanny, when it rained we all shared the dampness, all got hit with marshmallows and mustard-packets... then came the decks in the N and the S endzones, club seating, luxury suites, video boards , piped-in crappy sound-bites and $3.00 bottles of water

Now that my kids are playing HS football, Hs FB has taken the crown as the best fooball experience... unruined...

Maybe as i get older and more-crotchedy, but i'm okay letting go of PSU being in the clutch of everything perfect in my mind
 
Funny you mention that... as an undergrad back in 85/86/87 i would argue PSU was THE perfect football experience... .. used to be everyone sat in the same bowl and pretty much got stuck with an aluminum bleacher that left marks in your fanny, when it rained we all shared the dampness, all got hit with marshmallows and mustard-packets... then came the decks in the N and the S endzones, club seating, luxury suites, video boards , piped-in crappy sound-bites and $3.00 bottles of water

Now that my kids are playing HS football, Hs FB has taken the crown as the best fooball experience... unruined...

Maybe as i get older and more-crotchedy, but i'm okay letting go of PSU being in the clutch of everything perfect in my mind

Once every few years I will go to a Delaware game, and it's sort of how you described the 80's era of Penn State games (less 80,000 people or so).

I imagine there are fans of every big time program that view the evolution of football into a big business like you do.

I enjoy my fall Saturdays at my son's cross country meets now. Fortunately they are held in the early morning so I usually make it home to catch the PSU game on the tele.
 
Another know-nothing non-PSU Alum chimes in with his irrelevance....go figure! I hereby dub thee Lame-o Apparent Douchey Villanova Lawyer The Supreme.
First time for everything. You made me laugh. I'm still laughing. Still. Done now. Thanks.

I'm not a lawyer but the rest is all true.:confused:
 
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Another clear violation of Board Rules on a "PSU-Dedicated Message Board" towards a PSU Alumnus from a party that I doubt is even a PSU fan, let alone a PSU Alumnus - go figure.

You are the one who attacked the culture created by Joe Pa... basically called is all phonies for believing that Penn State's grade experiment is a fraud.

I am a 2007 alum of the Eberly College of Science.

You just are the type of cynic with who I have nothing in-common.
 
You got that from my post? Seriously? Well, then I won't make any effort to clarify it for you as I doubt I have much chance of success. You were right though. I'm not really a Penn State alum. I was not accepted at PSU so I had to set my sights lower. I got my BA from Yale and a law degree from Harvard. After all these years you were the 1st person to call me out. I'm going to put you on ignore. You see right through me.

BTW, I also have a Master's Degree from a top-5 ranked Private School within my professional discipline in addition to my PSU Undergraduate Degree, but I don't run around name-dropping it in some lame, pathetic attempt to define or validate myself AND arrogantly claim it as some pretext to pompously lecture others as to the pride they are permitted to take in their Alma Master's Sports Teams accomplishments on the field while maintaing some of the highest standards & accomplishments in the classroom (i.e., the manner in which these sports programs - both athletes & coaches - represent The University).

Some of most corrupt, pieces-of-garbage, ethicless, immoral, lying, self-serving, narcissistic, self-dealing, indecent lawyers-turned-politicians and abusive, tyrannizing "public servants" to ever grace "public life" received their undergraduate and/or jurisprudence degree from Harvad and Yale. True ethically-challenged lowlifes and immoral, self-dealing miscreants, you should be so proud!
 
BTW, I also have a Master's Degree from a top-5 ranked Private School within my professional discipline in addition to my PSU Undergraduate Degree, but I don't run around name-dropping it in some lame, pathetic attempt to define or validate myself AND arrogantly claim it as some pretext to pompously lecture others as to the pride they are permitted to take in their Alma Master's Sports Teams accomplishments on the field while maintaing some of the highest standards & accomplishments in the classroom (i.e., the manner in which these sports programs - both athletes & coaches - represent The University).

Some of most corrupt, pieces-of-garbage, ethicless, immoral, lying, self-serving, narcissistic, self-dealing, indecent lawyers-turned-politicians and abusive, tyrannizing "public servants" to ever grace "public life" received their undergraduate and/or jurisprudence degree from Harvad and Yale. True ethically-challenged lowlifes and immoral, self-dealing miscreants, you should be so proud!
Classic stuff
 
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