There are some who post here, in various guises, who bring this image to mind.
This is among the reasons why my love for all things PSU is waning
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So NYU grants advanced degrees in bullshit? Guess that shouldn't come as a surprise. You must be it's star pupil.
Apparently there are Masters Degree in run-on sentences**
What a shame! On the other hand both of my kids, one a recent alum, and the other a sophomore absolutely LOVE PSU. Guess you can't please everyone.
Fairgambit, everyone has a different experience on what makes their unviersity special. It should have been the time you spent there that made your experience special because other than that, yes, 8 out of 10 things about a University are pretty much status quo.
for those of you who do not like the taste of cyanide, I will happily provide you with a solid tailgate experience within 20 rows of the stadium... for any and all games (save Game 1 - too hot for me) ... I have been battered and bruised the last 6 years too... but not by anyone having anything to do with the football program (on the contrary - I will remember the last 6 with a great deal of positive emotion). Send me a message... i will send you a parking spot number. Average food, cold beer. $3000 optional.
Yes, precisely my point - mostly from supposed die-hard fans who didn't go there, have no real association with PSU, but are determined to help us understand the many deficiencies PSU, PSU's Football Program, former PSU Coaches and PSU's Athletic Program in general have - go figure! Interesting....
I have said on a number of occasions that I will always have my friends, my memories, and my degree, but the Penn State I knew no longer exists. I respect the opinions of those who say it is a better place. I just don't share them. I have given my reasons many times so I won't belabor them here. I have been happily married for 45 years, but I have friends who have gone through bitter divorces in what were once happy marriages. What changed? As this relates to me and Penn State, one might argue it is I who have changed, but those who know me best, my wife and college friends, say otherwise. Regardless, I cannot change how I feel. I have tried. I have not set foot on campus in 3 years and I have no desire to go back. Perhaps that too will change, but the present leadership, from the President and BOT, down to the Alumni Association, make the odds of that happening very long indeed.
What's your point? I don't care what funding mechanism each state uses. The bottom line is that PSU is very expensive. It's the most expensive for in state residents of any B1G school except for NW. It's also higher than average for out of state residents. To make matters worse PSU is accepting more out of state and international students and fewer Pa. kids.
That was the original point, that PSU has become incredibly expensive. I still love PSU and I remain a diehard fan of all PSU sports. That doesn't mean it isn't expensive.
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The parties that have done the most damage to PSU are corrupt lawyers-turned-politicians or "public servants" such as Judges who immorally and unethically abused their publicly-granted powers in doing so (including absurdly slandering PSU, PSU's Football Program and JVP from the bench such as corrupt piles of dung like "Judge Fuedale or Boccabella), but you've got no problem with them - go figure.
Or it has changed over the many years some of us have been associated through matriculation and then football. All school change as society changes and things are not the same as they were. Sad but a fact, you can't go back to relive it all.
NY sucks. Free tuition doesn't make sense IMO. It's not free, it's just getting other people to pay for it. People intentionally keep their incomes low enough to qualify which is absurd. But if you can take advantage why not?
I think schools like PSU should work harder to control costs. I'm looking for affordable education, not free education.
Oh well you seem in desperate need of a clue and some actual FACTS - here is a LINK that might help you with your severe ignorance. And it is one of only 4 Public New York State Colleges there.
as the win total goes up and the rankings go up.......guess what so does my price i'm charging for my seat. i love capitalism.
Exactly right. Ridiculous comparison. Many of the students going to these SUNY universities have been accepted at schools like RIT, Cornell, Penn State, Boston College, NYU but have made the decision to get a fine degree, in their respective major, at a fraction of the cost.
Your posts on this are unbelievable. Maybe it never was what you thought it was in the first place? Just cuz you realized way late in life that other schools have great opportunities too, that you were an ignorant fool and your arrogance misplaced, suddenly means the place has changed? You opened your eyes and realized you were wrong, and now you're compounding that wrong by blaming everyone but the man in the mirror. Shit happens, grow up, the place is still amazing and means a ton to a lot of us.
Yes, and it's not only the taxpayers. Many don't know that the student is required to live and work in NY for the number of years equal to the time they received the tuition.
I don't support the free tuition, but at least they put this stipulation in to hopefully rope in some of fleeing residents. In actuality the $6400 yearly tuition still leaves a considerable chunk our of the $22k total cost. It still leaves a heavy burden on many families.
My love of PSU is waning because I've found Pitt.
Tickets are cheap, expectations are low. As a Pitt fan posting online, I can post whatever nonsense I want and pretend to believe it. The best part is, no one expects me to use proper grammar and punctuation.
Tickets are cheap, expectations are low. As a Pitt fan posting online, I can post whatever nonsense I want and pretend to believe it. The best part is, no one expects me to use proper grammar and punctuation.
And you're always considered a "Super Fan" entitled to the greatest perks like free tickets with your hamburger purchase as well as other fabulous perks at your Rent-a-Stadium because there's only a handful of you.
Yes, the place is still amazing in many ways; it still means a ton to me; but..... it has changed since the great fan-hitting of 2011. Some of it is a natural evolution of change, which is often good change. But there has been a significant amount of unnatural and unnecessary change in the guise of turmoil as well. There is a decided less-alumni / friends of PSU 'feel' coming from too many decisions and addy-toods from the BOT Chair and Pres and those who control the power in those areas.
Fair has made his decision to stay away, MMII has opted for other activities and limited PSU activites.... I respect all that. They were not and are not ignorant and arrogant, nor wrong, imo. They are the kinds of people (both alums and friends of PSU) who helped make PSU what is was and what parts of it still are to me and hundreds of thousands of alumni. I am still entrenched and cannot break away as 'easily' (and I doubt they made their choices on a whim), but I admit the thought has crossed my mind.
I've certainly recognized the changes and how it feels differently than it did for decades for me and countless others. I've made donation decisions that reflect how those changes have impacted me and my addy-tood.
We each handle these changes personally and roll with the punches in our own way. You and I are not wrong to stay rather firmly entrenched. Fair and MMII are not wrong for the decisions they made. The things that happened to PSU as a whole and to very good people who have been wrongfully scapegoated, all of whom gave their all for PSU with never a bad intention, have impacted me deeply. I'm heartbroken in that sense. Yet, somehow I cannot fall out of my life-long love with PSU and Happy Valley.
Can't explain it, don't understand it, ain't never felt like this before.
Just my nickle's worth of nuttin'.
Aside from that other drivel I wrote a few minutes ago, in this specific face mask regard, MMII is as wrong as can be, as we all know.
Wait'll he gets a load of the chrome face masks that surely are a-comin'.
I truly feel elite, now that I am a Pitt fan. For the first time in a long time, I am smarter and better looking than all of my peers.
Go to King Canopy online and invest in the canopy with the heavier posts (wider diameter). Get walls with windows. It's a great setup.
I don't see a problem with it. The guy is seeking price discovery. It's the capitalist way. Look, you post an item on EBay to sell. Do you seek the best price possible or not? Let's not be hypocritical here. If he thinks there's someone willing to pay then he's well within his rights.
If you think the overall game experience is price-gouging then the solution is simple. Stay home. Watch the game on TV. That said, I like your car reviews. Keep 'em coming.
I thank you and have a blessed eclipse day.
Again, the people who have done the MOST DAMAGE - by far - are lying, public-power-abusing, immoral, SCUMBAG lawyers-turned-politicians especially in the form of AGs, Governors, OAG Prosecutors, Judges, etc... Corrupt, immoral, hypocritical, self-dealing, exclusively self-interested TYRANTS and purveyors of "wrong" and "evil injustices" against hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of innocents - the entire PSU Community. If that isn't "evil", "moral hazard", "bad culture" writ large, I don't know what the freak is! But "Fair" has no problem with this immoral, belly-crawling, incestuous SCUMBAG cesspool that have done so much damage to our society because they're "Lawyers" (and probably because they're senior ranking members of his favorite corrupt political cabal) don't you know.....and that somehow makes them good, honest, decent people when nothing could be further from the f'ing truth!
PSU is still awesome and the energy about the school is high. The only place I hear complaints about it are right cheer. My daughter has been working at Target
the past 3 months to make some money for school. She started up conversations with the PSU apparel wearing folk.Every single person was nice and very positive about PSU. Almost all said it was the best years of their lives
All of our visits to UP, to see the campus and Engineering and Schreyers program have exceeded expectations from the attitude and behavior of the student body. Available, affable, and approachable all around.
Yes, it is not perfect. Yes, it is not for everyone. But it still proves to be a great place to obtain your college degree. We are... still Penn State
Good bye to you all, if I get banned for this controversial post.
the past 3 months to make some money for school. She started up conversations with the PSU apparel wearing folk.Every single person was nice and very positive about PSU. Almost all said it was the best years of their lives
All of our visits to UP, to see the campus and Engineering and Schreyers program have exceeded expectations from the attitude and behavior of the student body. Available, affable, and approachable all around.
Yes, it is not perfect. Yes, it is not for everyone. But it still proves to be a great place to obtain your college degree. We are... still Penn State
Good bye to you all, if I get banned for this controversial post.
Penn State most certainly has changed from what it was 30 to 40 years ago. Graham Spanier was no Bryce Jordan, and Eric Barron is no Graham Spanier. Higher education has changed throughout the entire country, and Penn State is no outlier in this regard.
In addition, Penn State has made a decision that if you are an alum and over 50 years old, the university will not cater to you. In the past, universities would cater to the older alumni in order to solicit their financial support. Now, the university's attitude is that if the older alums don't like it, the university will get along fine without them. The university may be right or wrong about their approach to older alums, but that is the reality of the situation.
If that's true then someone is an idiot (which would not be a surprise). Why cater to older alumni? Just ask Willie Sutton.
I am definitely faster. As a pitt fan, 48-14 hurts. So I will say in return that.... we had a slightly better basketball team than PSU for a couple years recently. Hail to Pitt!
On multiple occasions when I had PSU tickets to unload - I was more interested in allowing another PSU family to get a good deal... simply too nervous about having to eat the tickets should they go unused... i wasn't drooling to maximize my ROI, It was more-important that folks, even those I just met in the parking lots , be able to enjoy the game
That being said - i'm the same guy who scrolls through Craigslist use car posts (even though I'm not in-the-market-to-buy) and gets visibly upset, okay... maybe just a face-palm, when I see some jackwadd posting his 2011 Chevy Traverse with 90k mi. for $17,499... some people simply believe that gold doubloons drop into the bowl when the sit on the pot...
I moved away from PA. years ago. I wold get back to an occasional football game and always thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Penn State for the most part is a memory for me, a great memory and I truly treasure the time I spent there. Last month I was in Pittsburgh for a family gathering. I also took the time to visit an uncle in hospice in Ligonier and decided from there to visit the Flight 93 Memorial. While there I realized it was a relatively easy drive to State College. Now, I had been "warned" about how much the place had changed and I poo-pooed that. I checked into the Atherton, ate dinner at the Tavern, breakfast at the corner room, lunch at HiWay Pizza. And the Campus? Nothing changed. I merely visited my little corner of campus west of Old Main where the College of Earth and Mineral Sciences is located. My visit was calculated, and it rekindled my memory and that wonderful memory lives on. That's my Penn State.
Edit: No sign of Nuesheisel while there
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