This whole Playoff System needs to be fixed.

[CJFisJoePaII]

Here’s a radical idea I shared on the national board:

The two biggest issues facing college football today are the devaluation of the regular season and bowl games. You fix that by taking the top eight teams in having them face each other head-to-head in the NY6 bowls. 1v8, 2v7, 3,6, 4v5. If #1 and #2 win their games, they advance to the national championship. If one of them loses, #3 advances if they win their bowl game. And if 2/3 were to lose, #4 leapfrogs them if they win. For 2024, it’d look something like this:

Cotton Bowl: 3 Texas vs 6 Ohio State
Orange Bowl: 4 Penn State vs 5 Notre Dame
Rose Bowl: 1 Oregon vs 8 Indiana
Sugar Bowl: 2 Georgia vs 7 Tennessee

It’s a de-facto 6-team playoff that rewards regular season performance while making the bowl games significantly important again. If Oregon and Georgia win, they’d play for the national championship. If either of them lose, Texas would have a chance to advance with a win. Penn State would need two of those three to lose in order to make it, assuming you win the Orange Bowl.

The best part is the games would be played back-to-back, with 4v5 playing first and 1v8 playing last. Could you imagine the suspense of waiting to see whether #7 or #8 would play spoiler? It’s like if you mixed the CFP with Russian roulette.

This is not a legitimate solution as it effectively eliminates every team outside of the B1G & SEC +ND. You're cool with creating a system that eliminates 8 of the 10 Conferences (and 2/3 of the FBS Universe) from any chance of playing for the "National Championship" - how big of you. That is not a National Championship.

BTW, f "the bowls" and you're bs propaganda defending them - neither of your "two biggest problems" is remotely true. How precisely is the regular season not devalued when you claim the team with the 2nd Best FBS Record, 12-1, does not deserve a shot? In addition, if a 16-Team Bracket is fully populated, the regular season is not devalued as the regular season results are what create the seeding and #1 playing #16 @Home is plenty of a reward and advantage for their great regular season. All Playoff Games should be played at the homefield of the higher-ranked team until the Finals. Screw the Major Bowls - they can rotate the Final every 5 years and host other games in their off years. The major Bowls expecting fanbases to line their (and their cities') pocketbooks three consecutive weeks if you want to see your team throughout the Playoffs and they advance to Finals is utter nonsense, pure greed, succubus, garbage behavior.... which you've clearly come here to defend.

 

[PSUMATT85]

This is not a legitimate solution as it effectively eliminates every team outside of the B1G & SEC +ND. You're cool with creating a system that eliminates 8 of the 10 Conferences (and 2/3 of the FBS Universe) from any chance of playing for the "National Championship" - how big of you. That is not a National Championship.

BTW, f "the bowls" and you're bs propaganda defending them - neither of your "two biggest problems" is remotely true. How precisely is the regular season not devalued when you claim the team with the 2nd Best FBS Record, 12-1, does not deserve a shot? In addition, if a 16-Team Bracket is fully populated, the regular season is not devalued as the regular season results are what create the seeding and #1 playing #16 @Home is plenty of a reward and advantage for their great regular season. All Playoff Games should be played at the homefield of the higher-ranked team until the Finals. Screw the Major Bowls - they can rotate the Final every 5 years and host other games in their off years. The major Bowls expecting fanbases to line their (and their cities') pocketbooks three consecutive weeks if you want to see your team throughout the Playoffs and they advance to Finals is utter nonsense, pure greed, succubus, garbage behavior.... which you've clearly come here to defend.

One of the many problems is the #8 team with nothing to play for, would all opt out

 

[AvgUser]

Are you just being obtuse??? Dividing the number of Playoff teams by the the total number of teams is how you determine how restrictive a Playoff Field is mensa. BTW, 12-1 BSU, whose only loss is to #1 Oregon and who had the outright 2nd best record in all of FBS, was outside the Top 8 of the Final CFP Selection Ranking - as was 11-2 ASU, who was tied for the 3rd best record in all of FBS (ASU and BSU were ranked #12 and #9 respectively in the Final CFP Selection Ranking) but neither of these teams "deserved" to be in the National Championship Playoff according to you???

BTW, could you show me another football Playoff structure - including the PROs, any other NCAA Division, NAIA, high school, etc........ - that is even remotely this restrictive??? Why should ONLY FBS Football be this absurdly, and unnecessarily, restrictive???

This is a word-for-word quote of one of your a-hole, arrogant douche statements:



So, according to you, the outright 2nd Best, and tied for 3rd Best, records in FBS haven't demonstrated season-long success??? Contradict yourself much oh all-knowing Oz who shall lecture all parties with their pedantic arrogance who question their declarations as to who is "worthy"?

The only reason BSU and ASU are in the Playoffs is because it is 12, not 8. 8 is not nearly big enough if you're going to guarantee the 5 highest ranked Conference Champions (and the 5 highest ranked Conference Champions probably do need to be guaranteed given mindsets like the one you have expounded - where teams should be excluded regardless of their record, or Conference Champion Title, if they don't play in the b2g or SEC. That is not a "National Championship" - that is a b2g / SEC Championship.). 12 is not large enough if you want to guarantee that 5 highest Conference Champions and all legitimate "at large" teams as this year proved.

They should have just fully seeded the Top 16 (w/ 5 auto-bids for highest ranked Conference Champions), eliminated the absurd 1st RD byes and had the lowest-ranked team play at the highest-ranked teams homefield - #1, #2, #3 and #4 playing #16, #15, #14 and #13 respectively at their homefield is plenty-&-enough reward and advantage for finishing top 4.

Hey genius. I asked you a simple question.
Show me the rule, the law that says the shall be a certain percentage that.make it to the playoffs?

I’ll give you a hint. There isn’t one.

Yo can spend another ten thousand words blathering on and it means nothing. Does Boise deserve to be in the final 8? Debatable. They are not winning it all despite the single loss.

You can continue to water down the playoff with hopeless wannabes and nobody benefits. The top eight is likely all you really need for a solid playoff with a true champion. Meanwhile. You save a bunch of money not buying “Great Job!” Trophies.

 

[AvgUser]

Name another collegiate sport that's comparable to college football in regards to the % of teams that get in. Playoff sports should largely be based on a % of the field. Even more so with less games.

Something has to be the lowest percentage.
And, why does it even matter what the percentage is?

 

[AvgUser]

Yeah, I'm insane because I think the 2nd Best, and tied for 3rd Best, records in all of FBS (both of whom have FBS Conference Champion Titles) deserve a shot in a "National Championship" Playoff??? LMAO. Your absurd hyperbole is really cute douchey.

BTW, the current system didn't work "just fine", when it unnecessarily eliminates the #11 CFP Selection Ranked Team before a game has been played. Then gives unnecessary 1st RD byes to the #12 and #9 CFP Final Selection Ranked teams in the name of rewarding their Conf Titles creating a situation where the #1 Ranked team is having to play a CFP Selection Ranked team in the Quarterfinals that they shouldn't have to face until the Finals! (Ditto #2 having to face a quality of team in the QTRs that they shouldn't have to face until the Semis had the brackets just been fully seeded without the absurd byes). But according to you, this is all working just dandy - LMFAO!

This entire complicated, absurd byes 12-Team system is utterly unnecessary. Simply fully-populating the 16-Team Bracket makes Infinitely more sense and generates infinitely more equitable outcomes!

They should have just fully seeded the Top 16 (w/ 5 auto-bids for highest ranked Conference Champions), eliminated the absurd 1st RD byes and had the lowest-ranked team play at the highest-ranked teams homefield - #1, #2, #3 and #4 playing #16, #15, #14 and #13 respectively at their homefield is plenty-&-enough reward and advantage for finishing top 4. This would not have extended the Playoff a single day and would have eliminated all the absurdities of this silly 12-Team Structure.

Your massive over-reaction and hyperbole is so cute in ever so douchey way. [Insert eyeroll].

😴😴😴😴😴😴😴🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

 

[Nbergbuck]

Something has to be the lowest percentage.
And, why does it even matter what the percentage is?

The % is tied to the nature of the sport. Football, given its nature, has a high injury rate. A 64 team tourney like basketball would become a battle of injury attrition. It is simply not doable. There is a reason there is typically at least 1 week between games. As it is, OSU and PSU have to win 4 post season games to claim the NC. That is already at least 1 too many.

 

[HailToPitt725]

This is not a legitimate solution as it effectively eliminates every team outside of the B1G & SEC +ND. You're cool with creating a system that eliminates 8 of the 10 Conferences (and 2/3 of the FBS Universe) from any chance of playing for the "National Championship" - how big of you. That is not a National Championship.

BTW, f "the bowls" and you're bs propaganda defending them - neither of your "two biggest problems" is remotely true. How precisely is the regular season not devalued when you claim the team with the 2nd Best FBS Record, 12-1, does not deserve a shot? In addition, if a 16-Team Bracket is fully populated, the regular season is not devalued as the regular season results are what create the seeding and #1 playing #16 @Home is plenty of a reward and advantage for their great regular season. All Playoff Games should be played at the homefield of the higher-ranked team until the Finals. Screw the Major Bowls - they can rotate the Final every 5 years and host other games in their off years. The major Bowls expecting fanbases to line their (and their cities') pocketbooks three consecutive weeks if you want to see your team throughout the Playoffs and they advance to Finals is utter nonsense, pure greed, succubus, garbage behavior.... which you've clearly come here to defend.

I disagree with the premise of your argument. This would not eliminate teams outside of the B1G/ND/SEC; that’s just simply who the top eight teams are this year. The ACC would’ve been represented had SMU defeated Clemson; can you argue 11-2 SMU deserved to be in the top eight? FSU would’ve gotten their shot last year, and so would the Big 12 in 2022 with TCU.

 

[LandoComando]

Something has to be the lowest percentage.
And, why does it even matter what the percentage is?

Because it's about a level playing field and giving teams more to compete for than pride
You all talk about this all being about money--which is true but only in part--the entire purpose is to contend for a title. The more teams given that real opportunity is better--always better
This isn't 1960--people need to adapt. We're talking about a 12 games season not MLB with 162 where i understand the frustration as that defeats the purpose of an 8 month 162 games schedule
In college football teams improve--USC and Penn State in 2016 are a great example of teams that could have won a title in a better format and why you need a deep playoff. South Carolina is a great example this year as their young QB found his game and took them to another level.

 

[LandoComando]

I disagree with the premise of your argument. This would not eliminate teams outside of the B1G/ND/SEC; that’s just simply who the top eight teams are this year. The ACC would’ve been represented had SMU defeated Clemson; can you argue 11-2 SMU deserved to be in the top eight? FSU would’ve gotten their shot last year, and so would the Big 12 in 2022 with TCU.

The entire intent of that is to eliminate everyone outside the Big Ten/SEC---100% the point
Any time you or someone else proposes a smaller playoff you're eliminating everyone but the big 2

 

[AvgUser]

Because it's about a level playing field and giving teams more to compete for than pride
You all talk about this all being about money--which is true but only in part--the entire purpose is to contend for a title. The more teams given that real opportunity is better--always better
This isn't 1960--people need to adapt. We're talking about a 12 games season not MLB with 162 where i understand the frustration as that defeats the purpose of an 8 month 162 games schedule
In college football teams improve--USC and Penn State in 2016 are a great example of teams that could have won a title in a better format and why you need a deep playoff. South Carolina is a great example this year as their young QB found his game and took them to another level.

PSU and USC were too 8 in 2016. Problem solved.

USCe lost three games. Too little too late. Better luck next year. No trophy

 

[LandoComando]

PSU and USC were too 8 in 2016. Problem solved.

USCe lost three games. Too little too late. Better luck next year. No trophy

It's not the problem solved. See USCe.
There's no logic in wanting less teams. It's simply an outdated old school way of thinking about the sport. Paterno would be asking for 64

 

[HailToPitt725]

The entire intent of that is to eliminate everyone outside the Big Ten/SEC---100% the point
Any time you or someone else proposes a smaller playoff you're eliminating everyone but the big 2

But do we really “need” a larger playoff? Did three-loss Clemson really have any claim to being considered for a national championship? Heck, does Arizona State? One of the things I’ve always appreciated about college football is that it’s a regular season sport, more akin to British professional football than the NFL.

If anyone from the ACC or Big 12 were worthy of being a national champion, they would’ve been included in the top eight. Like I said previously, those two conferences would always be included in my hypothetical format if they had an undefeated or one-loss champion.

 

[wilbury]

More bullshit and nonsense - D1 Basketball has 352 Teams and fully 20% make the NCAA Championship. You clearly flunked all of your math and statistics classes. LMAO.

The whole season is a playoff. That's why college football is so popular. If you were really interested in getting a true national champ, 8 teams is fine. That's never going to happen but it makes no sense to expand beyond 12.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

The % is tied to the nature of the sport. Football, given its nature, has a high injury rate. A 64 team tourney like basketball would become a battle of injury attrition. It is simply not doable. There is a reason there is typically at least 1 week between games. As it is, OSU and PSU have to win 4 post season games to claim the NC. That is already at least 1 too many.

First of all, there's 354 D1 Basketball teams - 64 is 20% of the Total Teams. There's 134 FBS teams - 20% of FBS would imply a 16-Team Playoff genius, not 64. Good Lord, you losers are over-the-top with your absurd rhetoric and hyperbole that NOBODY ever remotely said. BTW, it's rather comical that you people believe you know the 8 best teams in the Country (all of which come from 2 of 10 total Conferences +ND which is one of only 3 Independents - IOW, all 8 teams are from a Universe of only 35 teams) when there are 15 teams in the CFP Final Selection Rankings with 2 or less losses and 7 of them are not in the top 8 of CFP Final Selection Rankings. There are 10 teams with 11 or more wins in the CFP Final Selection Rankings - only 6 are in the Top 8 of the CFP Final Selection Rankings. There are 18 teams in the Final CFP Selection Rankings with 10 or more wins - 10 are outside the Top 8 of CFP Final Selection Rankings.

Just absurd to say that you can know with certainty who the Top 8 teams are in FBS Football..... and that these 8 Teams coincidentally will always come from the b2g, SEC +ND (35 teams) and the other 99 FBS teams should never be given a shot of playing for the "National Championship" by exclusion regardless of what their record is and whether they have won Conference Titles or not?

Just ridiculous - just like your absurd hyperbole that anyone is saying the FBS should have a 64-Team Playoff (btw genius, NCAA Men's Basketball actually allows 68 teams into March Madness as there is a "play-in" game for each 16 team bracket.).

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

The whole season is a playoff. That's why college football is so popular. If you were really interested in getting a true national champ, 8 teams is fine. That's never going to happen but it makes no sense to expand beyond 12.

No it isn't. The regular season is no different than any other sport - it (including Conference Championships) is used to create the "National Championship" Playoff Seedings (again, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SPORT including football at every other level including every other NCAA Level !!!). To say that the #1 Seed playing the #16 Seed @Home is not a significant reward and proper advantage for their regular season record and accomplishments is just straight-up bull$hit and hogwash. Just complete NONSENSE that it does not properly reward them. Do tell, does going 12-1 and winning a Conference Title make you "deserving" of continuing to play and attempt to prove yourself in the post-season??? Your insistence that we know with certainty that the Top 8 always, and only, come from 35 of the 134 teams is utter bullshit - we don't know this with certainty and that is the whole damn purpose of a Playoff... it puts the top teams (usually at least 20%) of the total teams for most sports and makes them decide it on the field as the vast majority of teams in the Playoff have played wholly disparate schedules..... and have not played each other or even similar opponents.).

 

[LandoComando]

But do we really “need” a larger playoff? Did three-loss Clemson really have any claim to being considered for a national championship? Heck, does Arizona State? One of the things I’ve always appreciated about college football is that it’s a regular season sport, more akin to British professional football than the NFL.

If anyone from the ACC or Big 12 were worthy of being a national champion, they would’ve been included in the top eight. Like I said previously, those two conferences would always be included in my hypothetical format if they had an undefeated or one-loss champion.

Need--yes, I believe so
I think it's absurd we have conferences that aren't playing for anything other than pride.
The regular season means more now--see the last couple weeks of the season and how many teams were fighting for playoff seeding and a bid.
Whether you want it or not--we're going to eventually get to 24. Whether that's one large playoff or two playoffs (one SEC/Big Ten and one everyone else) because growth is inevitable.
I don't care about British soccer but aren't they all playing to avoid relegation and get bids into tournaments? No? It's not like they are CUSA or the Sun Belt--just playing for fun and pride.

 

[HailToPitt725]

Need--yes, I believe so
I think it's absurd we have conferences that aren't playing for anything other than pride.
The regular season means more now--see the last couple weeks of the season and how many teams were fighting for playoff seeding and a bid.
Whether you want it or not--we're going to eventually get to 24. Whether that's one large playoff or two playoffs (one SEC/Big Ten and one everyone else) because growth is inevitable.
I don't care about British soccer but aren't they all playing to avoid relegation and get bids into tournaments? No? It's not like they are CUSA or the Sun Belt--just playing for fun and pride.

For the English Premier League, they don’t have a tournament; instead, the team with the most points at the end of the season is awarded the championship, and the team(s) with the fewest are relegated.

Personally, a larger tournament is getting too close to NFL-lite for me. I was fine with Pitt not playing for a national championship after winning the ACC because we weren’t one of the top teams that year. I don’t think three or even two-loss teams (with this year being an exception) have a claim to being *the* best.

 

[LandoComando]

For the English Premier League, they don’t have a tournament; instead, the team with the most points at the end of the season is awarded the championship, and the team(s) with the fewest are relegated.

Personally, a larger tournament is getting too close to NFL-lite for me. I was fine with Pitt not playing for a national championship after winning the ACC because we weren’t one of the top teams that year. I don’t think three or even two-loss teams (with this year being an exception) have a claim to being *the* best.

Right--but don't they get into other tournaments based on their record? Like doesn't Europe have tournaments?
I think that's a old school mentality personally--you're going to have to adapt. Sorry--just being honest

 

[HailToPitt725]

Right--but don't they get into other tournaments based on their record? Like doesn't Europe have tournaments?
I think that's a old school mentality personally--you're going to have to adapt. Sorry--just being honest

This part is true. I’m a fan of a bygone era; I accept that change is coming.

 

[LandoComando]

This part is true. I’m a fan of a bygone era; I accept that change is coming.

And I respect that...as long as people accept the change that's coming. No system is perfect. All have pros and cons.
I just want the bowl system to die and it's completely outlived its usefulness to the point you have to do crazy things like the PopTart bowl to be mentioned

 

[86Engineer]

Need--yes, I believe so
I think it's absurd we have conferences that aren't playing for anything other than pride.
The regular season means more now--see the last couple weeks of the season and how many teams were fighting for playoff seeding and a bid.
Whether you want it or not--we're going to eventually get to 24. Whether that's one large playoff or two playoffs (one SEC/Big Ten and one everyone else) because growth is inevitable.
I don't care about British soccer but aren't they all playing to avoid relegation and get bids into tournaments? No? It's not like they are CUSA or the Sun Belt--just playing for fun and pride.

So you think that the main goal for Premier League teams is to "get bids into tournaments" rather than winning the Premier League?

 

[Nbergbuck]

First of all, there's 354 D1 Basketball teams - 64 is 20% of the Total Teams. There's 134 FBS teams - 20% of FBS would imply a 16-Team Playoff genius, not 64. Good Lord, you losers are over-the-top with your absurd rhetoric and hyperbole that NOBODY ever remotely said. BTW, it's rather comical that you people believe you know the 8 best teams in the Country (all of which come from 2 of 10 total Conferences +ND which is one of only 3 Independents - IOW, all 8 teams are from a Universe of only 35 teams) when there are 15 teams in the CFP Final Selection Rankings with 2 or less losses and 7 of them are not in the top 8 of CFP Final Selection Rankings. There are 10 teams with 11 or more wins in the CFP Final Selection Rankings - only 6 are in the Top 8 of the CFP Final Selection Rankings. There are 18 teams in the Final CFP Selection Rankings with 10 or more wins - 10 are outside the Top 8 of CFP Final Selection Rankings.

Just absurd to say that you can know with certainty who the Top 8 teams are in FBS Football..... and that these 8 Teams coincidentally will always come from the b2g, SEC +ND (35 teams) and the other 99 FBS teams should never be given a shot of playing for the "National Championship" by exclusion regardless of what their record is and whether they have won Conference Titles or not?

Just ridiculous - just like your absurd hyperbole that anyone is saying the FBS should have a 64-Team Playoff (btw genius, NCAA Men's Basketball actually allows 68 teams into March Madness as there is a "play-in" game for each 16 team bracket.).

I took it to mean someone was advocating a 64 team football playoff. If that was not the intent, I apologize. There are at most 8 teams in football who can win it all in any given year. This year, PSU, "duhOSU", ND, Oregon, Texas and Georgia. That is about it. I predict that in the future there will be no more than 4-5 once the big money rolls in from megadonors. In the B1G that is Oregon and UM so far. Stay tuned and do try to be more civil.

 

[LandoComando]

So you think that the main goal for Premier League teams is to "get bids into tournaments" rather than winning the Premier League?

Main goal...no...a goal...yes

 

[LandoComando]

I took it to mean someone was advocating a 64 team football playoff. If that was not the intent, I apologize. There are at most 8 teams in football who can win it all in any given year. This year, PSU, "duhOSU", ND, Oregon, Texas and Georgia. That is about it. I predict that in the future there will be no more than 4-5 once the big money rolls in from megadonors. In the B1G that is Oregon and UM so far. Stay tuned and do try to be more civil.

If anything more team will be competitive. There's only so much money and the portal is very active. But, yeah, there's always been a dominant group of teams. Literally always.

 

[86Engineer]

Main goal...no...a goal...yes

Right....avoiding relegation is their main goal....according to you.

 

[LandoComando]

Right....avoiding relegation is their main goal....according to you.

After they're eliminated from winning a title. There's still something to play for. Unlike college football. Other than pride

 

[86Engineer]

After they're eliminated from winning a title. There's still something to play for. Unlike college football. Other than pride

Just like a bowl game.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

I took it to mean someone was advocating a 64 team football playoff. If that was not the intent, I apologize. There are at most 8 teams in football who can win it all in any given year. This year, PSU, "duhOSU", ND, Oregon, Texas and Georgia. That is about it. I predict that in the future there will be no more than 4-5 once the big money rolls in from megadonors. In the B1G that is Oregon and UM so far. Stay tuned and do try to be more civil.

Do tell how you know so much about who the definitive best 8 Teams are given that there are fully 18 teams with 10 or more wins including 6 Conference Champions, 4 of whom are outside the Top 8 of the CFP Final Selection Rankings. There are two 10 win teams included in the CFP Final Selection Rankings and ten 10 or more win teams outside the Top 8 of the Final CFP Selection Rankings including 3 11 win teams, a 12 win team and 4 Conference Champions! Yet you know with certainty precisely who the 8 "most worthy" teams are.... and coincidentally, your criteria excludes 75% of the total FBS Universe (99 of 134) from ever qualifying for a supposed "National Championship" Playoff before a ball has even been snapped on the season??? And this qualifies as a "National Championship" in your homer b2g is the most wonderful Conference God ever created pea-brain -- shocking. LMFAO.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

I took it to mean someone was advocating a 64 team football playoff. If that was not the intent, I apologize. There are at most 8 teams in football who can win it all in any given year. This year, PSU, "duhOSU", ND, Oregon, Texas and Georgia. That is about it. I predict that in the future there will be no more than 4-5 once the big money rolls in from megadonors. In the B1G that is Oregon and UM so far. Stay tuned and do try to be more civil.

And your notion that wealthy boosters or corporations are going to contribute millions of $$$ year after year into this silliness that has zero return on that kind of money, is utterly unsustainable and is not an "investment" of any kind (I would imagine the BoD's of most responsible Public Corporations would bar this type of frivolous nonsense and tell individuals to do it out of their own pocket if they want to burn those types of sums annually which is likely not tax deductible either as it is going to taxable salaries of players - it is not a deductible "gift" of any kind).

The only sustainable advantage top programs have is "Revenue Sharing" which is a real advantage, but it seems like fan attendance, and revenues, are going up across the board in this professionalization of the NCAA Sports (Indiana and Colorado being good examples)- so it's not as big an advantage as one might think going forward.

 

[Nbergbuck]

And your notion that wealthy boosters or corporations are going to contribute millions of $$$ year after year into this silliness that has zero return on that kind of money, is utterly unsustainable and is not an "investment" of any kind (I would imagine the BoD's of most responsible Public Corporations would bar this type of frivolous nonsense and tell individuals to do it out of their own pocket if they want to burn those types of sums annually which is likely not tax deductible either as it is going to taxable salaries of players - it is not a deductible "gift" of any kind).

The only sustainable advantage top programs have is "Revenue Sharing" which is a real advantage, but it seems like fan attendance, and revenues, are going up across the board in this professionalization of the NCAA Sports (Indiana and Colorado being good examples)- so it's not as big an advantage as one might think going forward.

Let me respond to both of your posts in 1. I have to go and get in a workout. Wealthy boosters are not contributing as an investment, they see it more like charity, although there are far better places for charity. The question is will there be a cap on NIL? I am guessing the courts strike it down as it is not subject to negotiation with a union. No, you can't be absolutely certain of the best 8 teams. The current system is probably coming as close as possible. If you are that unhappy with the B1G I would either get over it or find a non-B1G team to support, the B1G isn't going anywhere. Meanwhile, here are 3 things for you to research:
Exactly why the #1 QB in 2025 picked Michigan
Phil Knight's relationship to Oregon football
The meaning of the word "civil".

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Let me respond to both of your posts in 1. I have to go and get in a workout. Wealthy boosters are not contributing as an investment, they see it more like charity, although there are far better places for charity. The question is will there be a cap on NIL? I am guessing the courts strike it down as it is not subject to negotiation with a union. No, you can't be absolutely certain of the best 8 teams. The current system is probably coming as close as possible. If you are that unhappy with the B1G I would either get over it or find a non-B1G team to support, the B1G isn't going anywhere. Meanwhile, here are 3 things for you to research:
Exactly why the #1 QB in 2025 picked Michigan
Phil Knight's relationship to Oregon football
The meaning of the word "civil".

This is nearly as amusing as your defense of b2g hack, clown-crew Officiating claiming they aren't homers LMFAO.

Only a complete douche would claim that they made a post about expansion to a 64-Team Playoff as a bullshit, overwrought, hyperbolic argument against a 16-Team Playoff..... and then, when called on it, claim that they were merely responding to what the OP proposed, when NOBODY, let alone the OP he was responding to, ever proposed an expansion to a playoff of that magnitude and IN FACT, clearly said a field 0.25 (i.e., a quarter..... 25%..... 1/4..... etc....) of what the douche responder claimed they proposed. You're a real piece-of-work, tool douchebag telling me what team I am, and am not, allowed to root for based on your worship of the Bush-league, homer $hit, mouth-breathing midwestern conference known as the b2g.

 

[Nbergbuck]

This is nearly as amusing as your defense of b2g hack, clown-crew Officiating claiming they aren't homers LMFAO.

Only a complete douche would claim that they made a post about expansion to a 64-Team Playoff as a bullshit, overwrought, hyperbolic argument against a 16-Team Playoff..... and then, when called on it, claim that they were merely responding to what the OP proposed, when NOBODY, let alone the OP he was responding to, ever proposed an expansion to a playoff that was 0.25 (i.e., a quarter..... 25%..... 1/4..... etc....) of what the douche responder claimed they proposed. You're a real piece-of-work, tool douchebag telling me what team I am, and am not, allowed to rot for based on your worship of the Bush-league, homer $hit, mouth-breathing midwestern conference known as the b2g.

Really, not much more to say. Tried to have a rational discussion. That is obviously not your thing. You would rather whine over the B1G. It is by far the best place for Penn State. By the way, the team that had the fewest penalties called on its opponent? "Duh OSU". At least thru mid-November.

 

[CJFisJoePaII]

Really, not much more to say. Tried to have a rational discussion. That is obviously not your thing. You would rather whine over the B1G. It is by far the best place for Penn State. By the way, the team that had the fewest penalties called on its opponent? "Duh OSU". At least thru mid-November.

Wasn't true in the PSU game, was it dipshit??? LMAO, duhO$U was called for 2 penalties for 15 yards despite clutching, grabbing and tackling in the D-Secondary and O-Line all game long, while PSU was penalized 5 times for 45 yards - with multiple penalties extending duhO$U failed conversions.....

 

[roswelllion]

Need--yes, I believe so
I think it's absurd we have conferences that aren't playing for anything other than pride.
The regular season means more now--see the last couple weeks of the season and how many teams were fighting for playoff seeding and a bid.
Whether you want it or not--we're going to eventually get to 24. Whether that's one large playoff or two playoffs (one SEC/Big Ten and one everyone else) because growth is inevitable.
I don't care about British soccer but aren't they all playing to avoid relegation and get bids into tournaments? No? It's not like they are CUSA or the Sun Belt--just playing for fun and pride.

Lando, Weren't you one of the many saying Bama based on SoS alone should have gotten in ahead of Indiana and SMU?
Ouch! did that 7-5 UM team have 8 or 9 opt outs?

 

[AvgUser]

Lando, Weren't you one of the many saying Bama based on SoS alone should have gotten in ahead of Indiana and SMU?
Ouch! did that 7-5 UM team have 8 or 9 opt outs?

Wait for it. Ummm, Alabama really didn’t care about the game. If it had been a playoff game, they would have been more attentive and won handily

 

[LandoComando]

Lando, Weren't you one of the many saying Bama based on SoS alone should have gotten in ahead of Indiana and SMU?
Ouch! did that 7-5 UM team have 8 or 9 opt outs?

Bowl games have no meaning. When you think you're a playoff team and you're playing in a bowl game there's zero desire. It's just a fun trip. I don't understand why this alters that. SMU proved what we knew...they had no chance.

 

[LandoComando]

Wait for it. Ummm, Alabama really didn’t care about the game. If it had been a playoff game, they would have been more attentive and won handily

All reality. Bowl games don't mean anything. See us vs Ole Miss.

 

[LandoComando]

Just like a bowl game.

No one is playing for a bowl game

 

[Nbergbuck]

Wasn't true in the PSU game, was it dipshit??? LMAO, duhO$U was called for 2 penalties for 15 yards despite clutching, grabbing and tackling in the D-Secondary and O-Line all game long, while PSU was penalized 5 times for 45 yards - with multiple penalties extending duhO$U failed conversions.....

Wasn't true in the PSU game, was it dipshit???

You might want to learn how to read. To post effectively on a message board you need more than simply being an ahole. Make it a New Year's resolution.

 

[wilbury]

If folks actually don't believe teams belong? I give you...7, yes, 7, NFL Wildcard teams who won a Superbowl. That's 12% of Superbowl winners. Wtf do folks hate additional games? Turn the frking channel.

You can't compare this to the NFL where the difference from the top to the bottom is very thin. Even this year in the NCAA where everyone thinks there could be 8 or 10 teams that could compete for a national championship, the difference between the top 4-5 teams and 9-12 is glaring.

The playoff is definitely interesting and it has more fanbases involved for a longer period of time, but if you honestly want to find the best team, 12 is plenty if not too many.