Yep, he took candy from King all game long.He’s a flat out stud. He ate our lunch last year too.
Yep, he took candy from King all game long.He’s a flat out stud. He ate our lunch last year too.
Joe Moorhead's offense wasn't anything special. We did not win the big games then either, at least not because of our offense.
I remember that offense well. It wasn't much different than what we do to this day. The difference was personnel. We had a quarterback that was a lot like Pribula. The "explosive play" was hurling the ball downfield for a jump ball, which we tended to win because we had NFL receivers who were athletic and could beat the secondary of most teams (not named Ohio State).
We had the best running back in our history, who was so often trapped in the backfield as a result of everyone on the field knowing where he would be when he got the football.
And you know this based on how many team meetings you have attended? How many times did they run an RPO yesterday? How about zero as I recall. I don’t know specifically how involved Franklin is in the play calling but understand he gives Diaz almost complete control of the defense so I would guess he delegates a lot of the offensive control to MY. Whoever was calling the plays yesterday had a really bad day for sure. The OC should put a young QB especially in his 7th start on the road against a strong opponent in a position to succeed not fail. If there were any quick short throws to get Allar settled down I must have missed them. Don’t recall any screen passes either to slow down the OSU rush.It is not the OC.
Franklin wants his offense run the way he wants it.
Now we are running Franklin's offense wirh a QB who cant run.
Nor going to be successful against a team like Osu.
Instead of shifting to a run game. They go all in with deuces (Allar)
What did you think of their tackling technique on the goal line stand?Franklin has had close to half a dozen offensive coordinators and the offense hasn't changed in any fundamental way. I just don't see the point to blaming Yurchich. Btw, on defense, I feel the same way and still don't like their tackling technique
Yeah I’m sure he’s holding upGreat questions n good points. Send that in to Coach Franklin for this mornings meeting.
Then what are the coordinators there for? If you have any position where you make decisions, you are accountable whether you have a boss or not.
If Yurcich has O$U’s personnel, he would be a geniusWhile Allar did not have a good game. His OC did not set him up to be successful. Our pass routes are known by the DBs. They are consistently set up inside of our cuts. Announcers harp that the WRs can't get separation, but it isn't all on them because the DBs don't need to play the cut. They already know where the WR is going.
Why no slants inside or outside? Why do almost all pass play not have ANY receivers more than 12 yards deep? Of course there are no chunk plays. He's schemed them out of the plays that he's calling.
Late 3rd quarter should've been a change of pace switch to Pribula.
Oh, and those WR option passes were TERRIBLE calls.
What did you think of their tackling technique on the goal line stand?
If Yurcich has O$U’s personnel, he would be a genius
Not if he were also making those dumba$$ play calls. How many gimmick plays did PSU run yesterday - 3, 4? How many screens - 0?If Yurcich has O$U’s personnel, he would be a genius
You’re going off a lot of assumptions.Some coordinators have a lot more autonomy than others. I don't know how much Franklin gives his, especially on offense. Some coordinators merely implement, which to this outside observer, looks to be the case with Franklin. I still see the same fundamental offense after close to half a dozen coordinators in only 10 years.
As an aside, I am still baffled by the offensive coordinator during the first covid year. He wasn't given a spring to implement his offense, had a grossly truncated summer session, never had a chance to recruit players for his system, etc and yet got let go. I ponder, freely admitting without a shred of proof other than my above observation, whether he tried to make changes and Franklin didn't like that.
Now, let's assume he gives these coordinators significant autonomy. He's still going through a lot of them which is neither good for continuity or recruiting the proper personnel. They all conclude this is the best system? Even after he wanted to make a change and gave the coordinator permission to change things?
At the end of the day Franklin (or any coach) has final say over everything in the program. He's the guy I look to. If there's a problem with personnel, he picked them (in this case a lot of them), and is sticking with them. He sees them every day, way more than me, and knows there strengths/weaknesses. I see the final result that is the team. Blaming coordinators entails a level of detail I don't have access to. That's my philosophy.
You’re going off a lot of assumptions.
And we see Franklin going through a lot of coordinators…if they were just following his orders, why would he get rid of them?I agree, and that's my point. We only see the final results, not the interactions, practices, film study, etc. We see the finality of the head coach's decisions, and that's really the extent of it.
And we see Franklin going through a lot of coordinators…if they were just following his orders, why would he get rid of them?
The offense has changed a lot.I freely admit I would be inclined to reach that same conclusion if the offense had changed. Besides, we already know a few of those changes had nothing to do with success/failure.
I would not want Morehead back.Joe Moorhead's offense wasn't anything special. We did not win the big games then either, at least not because of our offense.
I remember that offense well. It wasn't much different than what we do to this day. The difference was personnel. We had a quarterback that was a lot like Pribula. The "explosive play" was hurling the ball downfield for a jump ball, which we tended to win because we had NFL receivers who were athletic and could beat the secondary of most teams (not named Ohio State).
We had the best running back in our history, who was so often trapped in the backfield as a result of everyone on the field knowing where he would be when he got the football.
Just this morning I saw an Okie St poster elsewhere saying that the PSU game yesterday was an example of why they were glad Yurcich was gone. Posters here ignore all the negative stuff about coaches until they get to PSU and then they suddenly ignore the positives. It ain't all rainbows and unicorns even at their prior jobs.hire yurcich..highly respected, good offenses at Oklahoma state and texas....still open to question here. These guys didn't go from being respected, sought after coaches to also rans in just a few years.
Those Moorhead teams were good because of the jimmies and the joes.
I think Moorhead's play calling was the main reason the 2017 team lostYep. And our one win vs OSU was because of the defense and a special teams play, not a Moorhead play or his players.
And everyone knew WR was the weakness this year. Parker Washington would have been a huge helpThis team always has holes somewhere- right now its receivers. Ohio State always has a stud or two. That's on Franklin.
But Yurcich is a dissapointment. I thought he was some kind of offensive genius. No explosion or even attempt at it with this offense. Cant beat good team like that.
This team always has holes somewhere- right now its receivers. Ohio State always has a stud or two. That's on Franklin.
But Yurcich is a dissapointment. I thought he was some kind of offensive genius. No explosion or even attempt at it with this offense. Cant beat good team like that.
BOB had a walk-on at QB with a roster that was trashed by the sanctions and made the offense look great. And some of you are giving Yurcich a pass with a 5 star-QB and talent all over the place.how many OCs has PSU been through since O'Brien left.. 4, 5?
I don't think anybody would have looked at yurcich and said that's not a good OC hire. just switching coaches all the time is not a solution
So basically you just defined an OC who called plays according to his players strengths, am I correct?Joe Moorhead's offense wasn't anything special. We did not win the big games then either, at least not because of our offense.
I remember that offense well. It wasn't much different than what we do to this day. The difference was personnel. We had a quarterback that was a lot like Pribula. The "explosive play" was hurling the ball downfield for a jump ball, which we tended to win because we had NFL receivers who were athletic and could beat the secondary of most teams (not named Ohio State).
We had the best running back in our history, who was so often trapped in the backfield as a result of everyone on the field knowing where he would be when he got the football.
I agree with this. While we are slightly better at tackling this year, it’s still like watching human bumper cars on defense. We seem to just want to bump into someone and hope they lose their balance or we try to throw them off balance. It’s comical and disturbing to watch. We want to “protect” the players but we obviously don’t want to teach them fundamentally sound tackling thats designed to “protect” them. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Franklin has had close to half a dozen offensive coordinators and the offense hasn't changed in any fundamental way. I just don't see the point to blaming Yurchich. Btw, on defense, I feel the same way and still don't like their tackling technique