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Time for Yurcich to go

Joe Moorhead's offense wasn't anything special. We did not win the big games then either, at least not because of our offense.

I remember that offense well. It wasn't much different than what we do to this day. The difference was personnel. We had a quarterback that was a lot like Pribula. The "explosive play" was hurling the ball downfield for a jump ball, which we tended to win because we had NFL receivers who were athletic and could beat the secondary of most teams (not named Ohio State).

We had the best running back in our history, who was so often trapped in the backfield as a result of everyone on the field knowing where he would be when he got the football.

Franklin has had close to half a dozen offensive coordinators and the offense hasn't changed in any fundamental way. I just don't see the point to blaming Yurchich. Btw, on defense, I feel the same way and still don't like their tackling technique
 
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It is not the OC.
Franklin wants his offense run the way he wants it.

Now we are running Franklin's offense wirh a QB who cant run.

Nor going to be successful against a team like Osu.

Instead of shifting to a run game. They go all in with deuces (Allar)
And you know this based on how many team meetings you have attended? How many times did they run an RPO yesterday? How about zero as I recall. I don’t know specifically how involved Franklin is in the play calling but understand he gives Diaz almost complete control of the defense so I would guess he delegates a lot of the offensive control to MY. Whoever was calling the plays yesterday had a really bad day for sure. The OC should put a young QB especially in his 7th start on the road against a strong opponent in a position to succeed not fail. If there were any quick short throws to get Allar settled down I must have missed them. Don’t recall any screen passes either to slow down the OSU rush.
 
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Franklin has had close to half a dozen offensive coordinators and the offense hasn't changed in any fundamental way. I just don't see the point to blaming Yurchich. Btw, on defense, I feel the same way and still don't like their tackling technique
What did you think of their tackling technique on the goal line stand?
 
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Great questions n good points. Send that in to Coach Franklin for this mornings meeting.
Yeah I’m sure he’s holding up
the meeting waiting for it. Reminds me of the old GM who said if you listen to the “experts” in the stands, pretty soon you will be sitting next to them.
 
Then what are the coordinators there for? If you have any position where you make decisions, you are accountable whether you have a boss or not.

Some coordinators have a lot more autonomy than others. I don't know how much Franklin gives his, especially on offense. Some coordinators merely implement, which to this outside observer, looks to be the case with Franklin. I still see the same fundamental offense after close to half a dozen coordinators in only 10 years.

As an aside, I am still baffled by the offensive coordinator during the first covid year. He wasn't given a spring to implement his offense, had a grossly truncated summer session, never had a chance to recruit players for his system, etc and yet got let go. I ponder, freely admitting without a shred of proof other than my above observation, whether he tried to make changes and Franklin didn't like that.

Now, let's assume he gives these coordinators significant autonomy. He's still going through a lot of them which is neither good for continuity or recruiting the proper personnel. They all conclude this is the best system? Even after he wanted to make a change and gave the coordinator permission to change things?

At the end of the day Franklin (or any coach) has final say over everything in the program. He's the guy I look to. If there's a problem with personnel, he picked them (in this case a lot of them), and is sticking with them. He sees them every day, way more than me, and knows there strengths/weaknesses. I see the final result that is the team. Blaming coordinators entails a level of detail I don't have access to. That's my philosophy.
 
While Allar did not have a good game. His OC did not set him up to be successful. Our pass routes are known by the DBs. They are consistently set up inside of our cuts. Announcers harp that the WRs can't get separation, but it isn't all on them because the DBs don't need to play the cut. They already know where the WR is going.

Why no slants inside or outside? Why do almost all pass play not have ANY receivers more than 12 yards deep? Of course there are no chunk plays. He's schemed them out of the plays that he's calling.

Late 3rd quarter should've been a change of pace switch to Pribula.

Oh, and those WR option passes were TERRIBLE calls.
If Yurcich has O$U’s personnel, he would be a genius
 
Some coordinators have a lot more autonomy than others. I don't know how much Franklin gives his, especially on offense. Some coordinators merely implement, which to this outside observer, looks to be the case with Franklin. I still see the same fundamental offense after close to half a dozen coordinators in only 10 years.

As an aside, I am still baffled by the offensive coordinator during the first covid year. He wasn't given a spring to implement his offense, had a grossly truncated summer session, never had a chance to recruit players for his system, etc and yet got let go. I ponder, freely admitting without a shred of proof other than my above observation, whether he tried to make changes and Franklin didn't like that.

Now, let's assume he gives these coordinators significant autonomy. He's still going through a lot of them which is neither good for continuity or recruiting the proper personnel. They all conclude this is the best system? Even after he wanted to make a change and gave the coordinator permission to change things?

At the end of the day Franklin (or any coach) has final say over everything in the program. He's the guy I look to. If there's a problem with personnel, he picked them (in this case a lot of them), and is sticking with them. He sees them every day, way more than me, and knows there strengths/weaknesses. I see the final result that is the team. Blaming coordinators entails a level of detail I don't have access to. That's my philosophy.
You’re going off a lot of assumptions.
 
You’re going off a lot of assumptions.

I agree, and that's my point. We only see the final results, not the interactions, practices, film study, etc. We see the finality of the head coach's decisions, and that's really the extent of it.
 
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I agree, and that's my point. We only see the final results, not the interactions, practices, film study, etc. We see the finality of the head coach's decisions, and that's really the extent of it.
And we see Franklin going through a lot of coordinators…if they were just following his orders, why would he get rid of them?
 
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how many OCs has PSU been through since O'Brien left.. 4, 5?

I don't think anybody would have looked at yurcich and said that's not a good OC hire. just switching coaches all the time is not a solution
 
And we see Franklin going through a lot of coordinators…if they were just following his orders, why would he get rid of them?

I freely admit I would be inclined to reach that same conclusion if the offense had changed. Besides, we already know a few of those changes had nothing to do with success/failure.
 
I freely admit I would be inclined to reach that same conclusion if the offense had changed. Besides, we already know a few of those changes had nothing to do with success/failure.
The offense has changed a lot.
 
Joe Moorhead's offense wasn't anything special. We did not win the big games then either, at least not because of our offense.

I remember that offense well. It wasn't much different than what we do to this day. The difference was personnel. We had a quarterback that was a lot like Pribula. The "explosive play" was hurling the ball downfield for a jump ball, which we tended to win because we had NFL receivers who were athletic and could beat the secondary of most teams (not named Ohio State).

We had the best running back in our history, who was so often trapped in the backfield as a result of everyone on the field knowing where he would be when he got the football.
I would not want Morehead back.
 
hire yurcich..highly respected, good offenses at Oklahoma state and texas....still open to question here. These guys didn't go from being respected, sought after coaches to also rans in just a few years.
Just this morning I saw an Okie St poster elsewhere saying that the PSU game yesterday was an example of why they were glad Yurcich was gone. Posters here ignore all the negative stuff about coaches until they get to PSU and then they suddenly ignore the positives. It ain't all rainbows and unicorns even at their prior jobs.

Funny that Moorhead's name keeps coming up this weekend because he was incredibly frustrating too, fans appear to have forgotten. His mesh point was way too slow, Barkley was constantly hit in the backfield. He refused to play McSorley under center in short yardage and even QB sneak or victory formations. McSorley relied heavily on a good WR corps to make plays on his deep balls. Those Moorhead teams were good because of the jimmies and the joes.
 
This team always has holes somewhere- right now its receivers. Ohio State always has a stud or two. That's on Franklin.

But Yurcich is a dissapointment. I thought he was some kind of offensive genius. No explosion or even attempt at it with this offense. Cant beat good team like that.
 
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This team always has holes somewhere- right now its receivers. Ohio State always has a stud or two. That's on Franklin.

But Yurcich is a dissapointment. I thought he was some kind of offensive genius. No explosion or even attempt at it with this offense. Cant beat good team like that.
And everyone knew WR was the weakness this year. Parker Washington would have been a huge help
 
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This team always has holes somewhere- right now its receivers. Ohio State always has a stud or two. That's on Franklin.

But Yurcich is a dissapointment. I thought he was some kind of offensive genius. No explosion or even attempt at it with this offense. Cant beat good team like that.

And we've had a hole on the OL for what, 10 years and counting?
 
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Shocking, the posters on here don’t like ANOTHER offensive coordinator. When you hate every one, it may be a you problem.
 
how many OCs has PSU been through since O'Brien left.. 4, 5?

I don't think anybody would have looked at yurcich and said that's not a good OC hire. just switching coaches all the time is not a solution
BOB had a walk-on at QB with a roster that was trashed by the sanctions and made the offense look great. And some of you are giving Yurcich a pass with a 5 star-QB and talent all over the place.
 
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Joe Moorhead's offense wasn't anything special. We did not win the big games then either, at least not because of our offense.

I remember that offense well. It wasn't much different than what we do to this day. The difference was personnel. We had a quarterback that was a lot like Pribula. The "explosive play" was hurling the ball downfield for a jump ball, which we tended to win because we had NFL receivers who were athletic and could beat the secondary of most teams (not named Ohio State).

We had the best running back in our history, who was so often trapped in the backfield as a result of everyone on the field knowing where he would be when he got the football.
So basically you just defined an OC who called plays according to his players strengths, am I correct?
 
Franklin has had close to half a dozen offensive coordinators and the offense hasn't changed in any fundamental way. I just don't see the point to blaming Yurchich. Btw, on defense, I feel the same way and still don't like their tackling technique
I agree with this. While we are slightly better at tackling this year, it’s still like watching human bumper cars on defense. We seem to just want to bump into someone and hope they lose their balance or we try to throw them off balance. It’s comical and disturbing to watch. We want to “protect” the players but we obviously don’t want to teach them fundamentally sound tackling thats designed to “protect” them. 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
 
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