Boyd will be hard to replace, but there is talent behind Conner. Pitt will have an offensive line loaded with talent and experience. It will be on how quickly Narduzzi can turn around the Pitt defense. If Franklin can't land a couple of high end DT's this year. I could see Pitt running very well against PSU in this game.
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Why, as long as everyone remains civil and talks football instead of attendance and molestation...it's good Pa. Football banter?
You know, I know a great team from New Jersey that really wants to be rivals with a team from Pa... we'll send you their number. You two would make a great couple.
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I love watching the sPitters think that this is THE coach... until he fails, leaves and the next guy is THE guy to do it.
Proof on the field, how about results against a common opponent like Akron?
- Pitt has not had a 10 win regular season since 1981.
- Pitt has a losing record in recent history.
- Only a pitt fan would boast about sporadic NFL success. "We occasionally take on a really talented kid with questionable academics, they leave after two years and do great in the NFL." That's not going to help recruiting. I never understood why you would want to root for a player who didn't even stay for at least 3 years at the school.
See you guys love each other already! I'm a one heck of a match maker.
Yes, that's interesting. How is it that Rutgers produced 37 individual NFL players and yet is so pathetic as a team?
Using this logic...I could say with all the resources, alumni support and money spent on coaches and facilities...PSU is a bigger failure than Pitt....but I won't...lol.
These posts are always the best.....The "WE WOULD" posts that have no basis other than a fan dreaming about what they would hope happens. These 8 months Pitt fans dream up scenarios in which Pitt would Clobber, beat down, throttle, and punish every team they play. Then September comes, they wake up to Akron or Youngstown St being ahead by 2 scores in Heinz Field and they start making plans to miss the following weeks game to go to the water slides at idewild. BUT, they do have a new coach now, so things are different...just like Did you see what he did with Russel Wilson...Paul Chryst...just like pedal to the metal Todd Graham, just like build the wall Wanny.
That's wise because it would be moronic. Actually, my Rutgers question is a fair one. Given the pathetic history of Rutgers football, it would be logical to believe they have few NFL players and yet they have the 18th most of all colleges. I would think that should translate into a top 25 type program, and yet they are annual failures in the fall. It's difficult to understand.
Pitt has been a disappointment for 30yrs. I don't think any Pitt fan would tell you different. The biggest difference between our fanbases is we realize how far our program has fallen. However, every year is a new year(and coach) and we are eternalyl optimistic. PSU fans are always optimistic and bitch amongst each other of their disappointments but never admit their disappointment to outsiders.
Well, our disappointment, such as it is, is on this Board for all to see. Unlike some here, I have no actual malice toward Pitt football. I have a half dozen good friends who are Pitt fans, and my wife is a Pitt grad. Sure, I throw some mild mannered insults Pitt's way, but I try to avoid rancorous posts. Pitt is very good school academically, and your basketball program has certainly been light years ahead of ours. In football, and most other sports, we're better, but we do have more resources and so that should be expected.
Your post makes no sense and speaks on your intelligence level. You know nothing about Penn State. Penn State fans were extremely disappointed at the end of the Paterno era, however there were also 2 11-1 seasons within the past ten years along with top 5 rankings. Even with this, most fans voiced their displeasure with results. The past few years have been given a pass due to sanctions and even with that there were dissatisfied fans. My guess is you have never seen Pitt ranked in the top 5 in your lifetime. Now, go back to your board and pretend that this is the coach that will get you back to the 6 year stretch that Pitt was relevant in the past 65 years.
I honestly hope both programs get back to being top 5 teams so we can continue with friendly banter that has some teeth behind it.
1742 national championships and 2 of the most soul crushing, embarrassing losses in college football history. 3-0 loss in the sun bowl, with DEMIGOD Lesean Mccoy on the team, the same guy getting touted as one of pitt's biggest successes. As well as this past bowl year. The lair board meltdown was palpable. Went from great future to coach is gone, season is gone, recruits left and the (4) season ticket holders claimed they were giving them up.
The hope of Pitt ever returning to being a top 5 team is laughable. I would be more concerned about making it through a year without losing to a MAC or D2 school.
Is PITT doing the right thing? Is PSU doing the right thing? I believe both are right and wrong.
Look, I did not say the academic issue makes PSU better only different. Quite frankly, everyone can believe what they will but Paterno held these athletes to a higher standard AND he made it VERY VERY clear that they were there to get an education and play football NOT the reverse. PITT, as many Div 1 schools does NOT hold that standard. I do believe they try but it is very difficult. As I said before PITT is an excellent school, every bit as good as Penn State. BUT they do not hold their "student-ATHLETES" to the same standard. Let me give you an example - Duke BB in order to continue to win has now entered the "one and done" sweepstakes. Are they wrong for doing that? Exactly what educational value are those kids getting?
As a fan I want that talent on my team. As an honest person it is an awful example of what the purpose of a University is. Does a McCoy or Fitzgerald even go to college if there is a REAL NFL minor league like baseball?
Again, this mess has been fueled by the $$$$ and the pro-leagues.
Why do you think there is so-much talk about paying these athletes.
PSU is not better only DIFFERENT.
I will respect your beliefs...but I also think you are delusional. PSU is no different than any other school...none.
Alright, this guy has had his fun...I think it's time to ship him on his way. Especially since some of us got preemptive bans from the lair just for having bwi as our home site.
Please tell me what rules I have violated in my posts. I have been respectful in my disagreements?
This will be my last response to you on this topic. They ARE different just as 1 and 2 are different. Yes they are both numbers but different. AND numbers don't lie
On the liar, one is not free to disagree. Be grateful that we're benevolent hosts and don't overstay your welcome
I was banned on the lair for saying I was friends with a former Pitt player. Lol. I can only assume they saw the BWI association and banned me. This was back when I first started posting on these boards and thought it would be fun to interact with other boards. Little did I know this entire community is a cesspool. I'm assuming I am no longer banned there since the board refresh, but I have no reason to even look at that board anymore, let alone want to post on it or talk sense.
I agree, as long as you are not name calling or flaming...you should be welcome at the lair. The Sanders post on the lair now is out of hand and should be removed.
You mean like you beat down Akron- a team our depleted lineup handled rather comfortably? I'll give you this much, it would be a better game than it would have been presanctions, but how is it that PSU is blistering you in recruiting even after our do called death penalty that all Pitt fans swore was the end of football in Happy Valley?
Skeller, hypothetically, if it were possible for Pitt/PSU to cancel their respective Akron/Temple away games AND it would not adversely impact PSU monetarily a AND Pitt agreed to play AT Beaver Stadium THIS YEAR on August 30, there is NO way James would agree to play. NONE!!!
Why? Because he knows the beat down that would take place... ...his "Dominate the state" mantra would morph into "Dominate State"!!!
Forget about the last 30 years... I'm talkin bout right now!!! It would be Blunt Force Trauma!!!!
Why? Because he knows the beat down that would take place... ...his "Dominate the state" mantra would morph into "Dominate State"!!!
Forget about the last 30 years... I'm talkin bout right now!!! It would be Blunt Force Trauma!!!!
Funny, That sounds like what Pitt fans said for the last how many coaching changes you had. You are a stepping stone for coaches. If Narduzzi has any kind of success there he wil be gone to greener pastures quickly. We are not worried about Pitt on the recruiting trail or on the field. Enjoy your talk now because when we do finally get to play you it will not be a very good time for you Pitt fans.
Is that with or without Ray Rice? I did some real quick research, found Rutgers to have 23 per ESPN, never heard of one of them. You must be talking 37 All time!
In all seriousness, Pitt and Rutgers are made for each other.
Oh I'd take a matchup with Pitt in the first month of the season... You guys are terrible in September... Ask YSU, Akron, etc.
All sarcasm aside, you and I can speculate all we want about match ups, but seeing as how this game is happening in 2015, who cares? I'd argue with your point and then Pitt goes out and loses to a MAC or lesser team... Which has happened even when your expectations are highest. Boyd and Connor definitely pose matchup problems for us but I'd hardly say the game isn't winnable for PSU. But don't sit there and tell me you'd lay your house and kids up for collateral on a bet for Pitt in this game. I'd bet at Pitt they're -3 favorite this year, but after you lose Boyd and Connor and our squads a lot about the 16/17 games is up in the air- particulary if Hackenberg is gone for us and whoever you have replacing vojtek isnt settled
Side note- thank you Tom for actually letting some of these guys post and let the exchange go.
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Never heard is McCourty? Sanu? Anthony Davis? Good to see how well informed you are about football. How is your pride and joy Larry Johnson doing? Success with honor, indeed.
