Joe said that he had no idea what you would call it. In fact, Joe knew diddly squat about the incident because he WAS NOT THERE. Did Joe lie? We will never know. My opinion is that Joe did not lie under oath. But, anything that Joe said was his recollection of whatever McQ mumbled to him. And McQ refreshed Joe's mind prior to Joe's GJ appearance. and from 2000/2001 to 2010, MCQ memory and story changed. If you would actually read the testimony, Joe had no idea what really transpired, and his account of the event is worth zero.
Secondly, you always fall back on idiotic statements like you made here. I don't think I have ever read one comment from any poster saying that Joe lied. You might be one of the few that does assert that others call Joe a liar.
Last, you just don't get what people are telling you. "WITH THE BENEFIT OF HiNDSIGHT, I wish i would have done more".
You can't fix stupid.