The only reason to admit Rice would be too few uncompetitive schools starting with R.
USC & UCLA
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We've seen it in wrestling. The fan interest in PSU Wrestling/Iowa Wrestling vs Hawkeye/Nittany Lion WC is DRASTIC. How will that impact football, which will be little more than fulltime employers? Who knows, but that cash cow might leave the lot and our sport needs to be funding and stashing like crazy imo.
That never occurred to me. A 2nd+ round pick may stay for his senior year cause NIL pays more. Fascinating.
Oregon and UDub both hold their own academically with the Big 10
Problem for Stanford is that nobody cares about Stanford football, including Stanford. Stanford has acknowledged that they are demphasizing sports. The same problem exists for Rice and TCU. Like Stanford in a big TV market, problem is nobody watches them.
When I moved out to Cali in the mid 90s I went to a Stanford-Utah football game. There about 5,000 people in the stadium and most of them were Utah fans.
Clearly if some combination of eyeballs on a televised game is the major criteria, with filled seats in a stadium to a lesser degree, ND is the clear leader of a school to be added, while a BC probably wouldn’t make the cut.
But it would follow that if the super conference business model is to maximize revenue through tv ads and ticket sales aren’t there schools at risk for being subtracted from the conference? Any pencil pusher can do the math that there are bottom line gains to be made not just through addition but by subtraction as well. If accountants are truly running the show, underperforming school may not be allowed to drain the coffers of any super conference (no tv following or sold out stadiums) while significant upgrades to the bottom line are simply a phone call away. Here’s the BIG football attendance records pre and post pandemic (last 2 relevant years)
BIG School | 2019 | 2021
Michigan | 111,459 | 107,712
Penn State | 105,678 | 106,756
Ohio State | 103,383 | 92,869
Nebraska | 89,348 | 86,586
Wisconsin | 76,472 | 70,556
Michigan State | 67,819 | 70,170
Iowa | 65,557 | 66,201
Purdue | 54,021 | 52,536
Indiana | 41,244 | 50,037
Minnesota | 46,190 | 46,804
Rutgers | 30,082 | 46,193
Maryland | 37,812 | 37,767
Illinois | 36,587 | 36,573
Northwestern | 37,736 | 29,186
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The desire for academic cred will keep a lot of Universities out of the BIG. We’ll end up with two mega conferences (SEC & BIG) and a grab bag of leftovers. Good news is that we’re IN! Bad news is that a lot of Universities will dial down overall athletic pursuits and eliminate Olympic sports. Stanford, CAL, ND, Duke, UNC, Virginia and a select few others (Wake, Ga.Tech, Vandy) need to find homes and have the academic chops to enter the BIG.
Here’s hoping this USC/UCLA-Big Ten merger careens off the track, crashes and burns | Jones
The more I think about it, the more I hope this acquisition engineered by the bloodless weasels at FOX Sports derails and explodes. For what it'll do to the Trojan and Bruin athletes through endless travel, and the diminishment of the Pac-12, it deserves a fiery death.
Thought this was a good read.
It would be entertaining watching Notre Dame left standing without a date, wondering what happened?
Don’t click. It’s David Jones.Here’s hoping this USC/UCLA-Big Ten merger careens off the track, crashes and burns | Jones
The more I think about it, the more I hope this acquisition engineered by the bloodless weasels at FOX Sports derails and explodes. For what it'll do to the Trojan and Bruin athletes through endless travel, and the diminishment of the Pac-12, it deserves a fiery death.www.pennlive.com
Thought this was a good read.
if it's jones, i'm sure he'll find some way to blame it all on ps.
Maybe we should be focused closer to home, lol.
Yeah, MSU admin really holds the moral high ground in the B1G wrt to sex scandals….
You sure this isn’t the onion?
It's a screenshot from the Pitt board, which is wacked out to the point of being satire-proof.
“Recent football success”? That’s comical in and of itself
They haven’t been relevant in football since the Punic Wars. To be fair, their 21 championships in 24 years from 190 Bc to 166 BC was pretty amazing. Of course, Carthage was down at the time due to recruiting violations
I was catching up on the reanimated AJ Ferrari thread and saw this gem from @El-Jefe . Anyway, this belongs on this thread.
If USC and UCLA end up in the Big 10, a lot of West coast people are going to be pretty disappointed, myself included. I don’t know how many of you Eastern guys pay a lot of attention to Pac 12 football, but their conference games can be really exciting. Maybe their teams don’t always get the top rankings nationally, but I’ve seen a lot of real nailbiters go down to the last play of the game. It would be a big mistake to break up that kind of competition.
“If”, it’s too late for if. It’s a done deal already.
UCLA Olympic sports faced uncertain future until the Bruins jumped to the Big Ten
UCLA, saddled with $102.8 million in athletic debt, wasn't sure it could keep fielding all sports before the moving from the Pac-12 to the Big Ten.
www.latimes.com
I wonder if they'll add academics at FSU?
Not so sure about Oregon. They have neither a medical school nor an engineering program.
Governor Newsom not being a happy camper isn't going to cause me to lose any sleep
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Doesn't sound like ND is coming
www.cbssports.com
Notre Dame targeting $75 million annual media rights payout in quest to remain independent
Power Five shoulder programming around Notre Dame games will be key to making such a deal happen
www.cbssports.com
It’s been actively discussed in the baseball draft the past couple days. If you are slotted at x dollars for a mlb bonus and then the minor league grind, would you be better going to Vanderbilt for 3-4 years, collect NIL and possibly move up to a higher draft slot. You get to a point where you are playing with house money.
check out the "heart of the game" book - true story of Mike Coolbaugh and his tragic death but it does detail the life of a minor leaguer and the importance of the bonus money when up for 'promotions'
Rice does absolutely nothing for Texas TVs. On any given Saturday, ND has more viewers of CFB than Rice, by many multitudes.
Interesting evaluations
sports.yahoo.com
Big Ten desirability ratings: where each current league member ranks per Sports Illustrated
If Power 5 conferences started from scratch tomorrow, how desirable would the Iowa Hawkeyes and the rest of the current Big Ten programs be?
sports.yahoo.com
41st "all sports" means basketball is over-weighted. By a lot.Interesting evaluations
Big Ten desirability ratings: where each current league member ranks per Sports Illustrated
If Power 5 conferences started from scratch tomorrow, how desirable would the Iowa Hawkeyes and the rest of the current Big Ten programs be?
There is less than zero chance if a conference was offered their choice of Wisconsin or Penn State that they would not pick Penn State. Other than that foolishness the rankings are relatively interesting.Interesting evaluations
Big Ten desirability ratings: where each current league member ranks per Sports Illustrated
If Power 5 conferences started from scratch tomorrow, how desirable would the Iowa Hawkeyes and the rest of the current Big Ten programs be?
