Those rankings must have borrowed Wrestlestat's algorithms for Wisconsin to be ahead of PSU, USC and UCLA.
USC & UCLA
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The funny part of that is that Purdue and Indiana will make about that same amount just by being in the BIG and they won't have to share any of it with their opponent. There must be a belief by the ND decision makers that they will have an easier time remaining "elite relevant" as an independent by avoiding tough conference schedules and playoffs and by setting their own schedule if they are willing to remain status quo.Doesn't sound like ND is coming
Notre Dame targeting $75 million annual media rights payout in quest to remain independent
Power Five shoulder programming around Notre Dame games will be key to making such a deal happenwww.cbssports.com
Why doesn't the Big Ten tell their schedule makers 'no mas' , when it comes to scheduling Notre Dame in any and all sports. Unfortunately, even the Big Ten will bow at the Notre Dame alter of big TV revenue so that they can't use that method to force their hand.
Why do we care if a team joins a conference or not and if they play conference teams? The more rigid the conference schedules are and the more rigid the conference alignments are the less able teams are to mix it up and benefit from up or down years. If the Big 10 was not so schedule crazy with wrestling, we would not have had to go years without seeing Iowa and PSU in a dual, which would have been awesome to see.
Rivalries and revenues can be managed with a little more flexibility and a less centralized approach. IMHO
For one, because Notre Dame is a member of the B1G for men's hockey. Has been that way for a few years now.
I would be all for kicking their asses out and offering someone else a chance to be in the conference solely for hockey like Hopkins is for lacrosse. Let ND rot into irrelevance and then come begging the conference to get in and then force them to make every conceivable concession. Arrogant ****s.
I take it you don't follow men's hockey or have PSU season tickets. That'd be expected on a wrestling board.
I appreciate Notre Dame as a quality in conference competitor much more than many of PSU's non-conference home opponents. I don't know what constitutes ND's arrogance.
I take it you don’t know or have ever talked to a Notre Dame fan at any point in your life.
If we need another hockey school we can invite the University of Denver or Minnesota-Duluth to join and not have to put up with ND’s attempts to extort the conference for preferential scheduling or demands for an oversized share of the conference profits.
You'd be wrong there.
College friend had an older brother who graduated from Notre Dame. Niece's husband graduated from Notre Dame.
There are passionate fans everywhere.
I see nothing wrong with a school trying to leverage its perception of its value during negotiations. The conference leadership would have to see it as win-win.
I could see where fans of existing conference members might suffer damaged egos a bit, should their conference accept such a deal.
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I think the answer is simply remaining elite and of course money. Elite comes down to football bragging rights. Since all the top programs regardless of conference affiliation fill their stadium seats it comes down to television money. Point being BIG was hoping to hit $1.0 billion in annual tv revenue before UCLA and USC. Now recent media projections are for as high as $1.25 billion by simply adding those two. I would imagine adding ND and another top footbal program would realize a similar bump up in revenue. If those assumptions are in the ballpark, the revenues per school jump as follows:
14 @ $1 billion= $71,428,571/yr
16 @ $1.25= $78,125,000/yr
18 @ $1.5= $83,333,333/yr
These extra dollars are critical for the many other unprofitable sports programs.
Of note - of the current 14 schools only 3 offer all 14 mens sports programs (PSU, tOSU & Mich). Of the 14 mens sports only 4 are found at all 14 schools (football, basketball, golf & wrestling). As a side note at the 14 schools all 14 womens sports programs are found at 6 universities.
Since each school is getting an equal share of the forecasted tv revenue, I would think they should all be required to offer the same sports programs. Why should school A have 14 women's sports and school B has 8 and spends less money, yet earns an equal share?
Be careful what you wish for there. Recipe for forced downsizing.
RU remains the scarlet headed step child of the b16
www.nj.com
USC, UCLA will receive full Big Ten revenue share before Rutgers: Here’s why
Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren discussed why USC, UCLA got different treatment than previous expansion teams entering the league.
Some sports make little sense in certain locals. Rowing makes a ton of sense in Madison where the Badgers have had a varsity team for many years. It’s popular and they have ample access to calm water. Penn State has only a club rowing team because anyone who excels at rowing stays down in Philly. The State College area is not blessed with large bodies of water. Point is that there are reasons for selecting what sports are offered at each individual institution. The Big Ten is run by self serving power mongers and should be kept far away from most decision making! USC and/or UCLA will have wrestling if those schools deem it beneficial.
Yeah, more ($$) people care. Pretty easy.RU remains the scarlet headed step child of the b16
USC, UCLA will receive full Big Ten revenue share before Rutgers: Here’s why
Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren discussed why USC, UCLA got different treatment than previous expansion teams entering the league.
UC Santa Barbara crew trains at Lake Cachuma, which is 45 min from campus -- about the same distance as PSU is from the Susquehanna River in Lock Haven.
Also, Bucknell has varsity crew, men's and women's teams.
I have this picture in my mind with Cael as the coxswain and the wrestling team seated by weights on the boat for some offseason conditioning/competition. Unfortunately there are only 8 seats for rowers. So just like wrestling, only 8 scoring rowers. 😉
That one took a little too much effort …
Hey someone else brought up rowing. I just got it back to wrestling, that's all.🙂
It was rumored that Reggie Bush took a pay cut when he got drafted. Now, everything that he got is legal. Last year, Alabama’s starting Qb made a million dollars before ever playing a down of college football.
The era of collegiate athletics is over for Bball and football players. It won’t be long till they won’t even have to go to class. Which, to me, is why it’s so damn important for sports like wrestling to have a seat at the college sports table. When revenue sports become more and more glorified and sought after by television networks, non revenue sports get cut. I hate to spell gloom and doom, but can anyone possibly think AD’s won’t look at the bottom line and make some “hard choices”.
Most people see NIL as a benefit to the athletes, finally getting paid for their years of indentured servitude, ( heavy sarcasm there) I see it as a threat to the revenue loosing athletes…which is the majority of college athletes. The rich get richer and the poor get cut. USC and UCLA need to add wrestling, if for no other reason than it shows the sport still holds some value.
Perhaps based on the numbers from this recent Samford U study of total football fans (eyeballs on tv and seats in stadium) another program has that honor. In general it passes the smell test but there are more than a few surprises (it may have been conducted by a Duke grad however - see #11, who’s ex went to U Mississippi - see #63)RU remains the scarlet headed step child of the b16
USC, UCLA will receive full Big Ten revenue share before Rutgers: Here’s why
Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren discussed why USC, UCLA got different treatment than previous expansion teams entering the league.
Rank | College | Total fans |
1 | Ohio State University | 6,277,707 |
2 | University of Alabama | 4,136,400 |
3 | Penn State University | 3,970,925 |
4 | University of Notre Dame | 3,510,694 |
5 | University of Texas-Austin | 3,136,464 |
6 | Michigan State | 2,938,450 |
7 | University of Michigan | 2,877,610 |
8 | University of Georgia | 2,835,217 |
9 | Florida State University | 2,751,432 |
10 | UCLA | 2,724,802 |
11 | Duke University | 2,580,744 |
12 | Louisiana State University | 2,309,126 |
13 | University of Florida | 2,136,456 |
14 | Auburn University | 2,030,020 |
15 | Texas A&M University | 1,952,688 |
16 | University of North Carolina | 1,854,868 |
17 | University of Illinois | 1,719,596 |
18 | University of Oklahoma | 1,698,743 |
19 | University of Wisconsin | 1,606,155 |
20 | Arizona State University | 1,541,062 |
21 | University of Southern California | 1,508,953 |
22 | University of Kentucky | 1,501,519 |
23 | Boston College | 1,498,702 |
24 | Georgia Tech | 1,489,509 |
25 | Clemson University | 1,484,940 |
26 | University of Minnesota | 1,374,731 |
27 | University of Tennessee | 1,335,659 |
28 | University of Iowa | 1,295,681 |
29 | University of Nebraska | 1,175,391 |
30 | University of Miami | 1,112,535 |
31 | University of Missouri | 1,101,638 |
32 | University of Arkansas | 1,051,334 |
33 | University of Kansas | 1,046,423 |
34 | University of Oregon | 966,225 |
35 | Stanford University | 946,436 |
36 | Syracuse University | 905,001 |
37 | University of Maryland | 877,659 |
38 | Indiana University | 839,930 |
39 | University of Washington | 835,242 |
40 | West Virginia University | 810,673 |
41 | Baylor University | 809,719 |
42 | Oklahoma State University | 768,419 |
43 | University of Arizona | 767,855 |
44 | University of California-Berkeley | 759,663 |
45 | Kansas State University | 737,036 |
46 | Iowa State University | 710,915 |
47 | Oregon State University | 697,516 |
48 | North Carolina State University | 692,097 |
49 | University of Virginia | 625,450 |
50 | Purdue University | 562,752 |
51 | Rutgers University | 552,811 |
52 | Mississippi State University | 516,335 |
53 | University of Pittsburgh | 495,754 |
54 | University of South Carolina | 429,618 |
55 | Northwestern University | 401,672 |
56 | Virginia Tech | 390,711 |
57 | University of Utah | 368,948 |
58 | Washington State University | 311,262 |
59 | Texas Tech University | 271,168 |
60 | University of Louisville | 270,065 |
61 | University of Colorado | 268,163 |
62 | Texas Christian University | 214,709 |
63 | University of Mississippi | 136,243 |
64 | Vanderbilt University | 128,195 |
65 | Wake Forest University | 120,544 |
Actually, the reason PSU does not have womens rowing is because it was deemed a political hot spot to build the ice arena and not promote womens Ice Hockey. When mens hockey was elevated, Title IX required an equal opportunity addition and Womens Rowing was preferred. Even to the point of building the practice / training rowing pools. Among the four sports considered was also Rugby and ….wait for it….synchronized figure skating.
The latter would have been the sport to have if PSU’s meeting with the NCAA had plans to elevate that sport to varsity status. That would have allowed a sport to both take advantage of the ice sheets in Pegula and have some reasonable paid attendance. It was the first choice. The NCAA did not have plans to do this and attention shifted to rowing.
after much discussion, it was decided the heat would have been too much to build an ice arena and only have one team use it.
I had never heard this! My daughter competed for six years at the national level as a synchro skater. Last I checked, synchro is club level only- I didn’t know it was an NCAA sanctioned sport.
It isn’t. TC met with the NCAA to see if they would or planned to elevate to varsity status. If the NCAA said yes, we would be watching Sync Skating in Pegula today. They said no.
