Utah starting QB gets benched on Saturday leaves program today
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All kidding aside, if Cliff moves on after this season......a QB like Brewer with a one year expiration date and vast experience might make sense for PSU. It provides a steady hand to take the lead while the staff sorts out and prepares Allar v Pribula etc. All of this of course, only if the coaches are convinced that Roberson cannot fill that role.
Even with all the superlatives, accolades and support from the BWI CAC, I don't see a true freshman starting game one of 2022.
Even with all the superlatives, accolades and support from the BWI CAC, I don't see a true freshman starting game one of 2022.
I'm old enough to recall when free agency "destroyed" baseball. I suppose for some it did. But reality is, most people don't remember or were not born when the reserve clause existed. It will be the wild west for a few years and then things will start to calm down and a new normal will emerge.
I think it's likely he played 4 years at Baylor and didn't get any looks from the NFL so when the Covid bonus year came to fruition he looked at that as another route to get looks. When he got benched that plan was over. I doubt you'll see him play again in college.
Already seeing subtle adjustments like possibly increasing the signing limit to compensate for the Portal traffic.
I predict similar reactions to NIL once its nuances and unintended consequences become known.
Fair take. I do think professional sports has suffered for the free agency to a degree, even though I agree with it. As a fan you lose some of that passion to the team when you can’t identify with so many of the players from year to year. If you’re a Pirates fan and you have a great young player, it’s just a matter of time until he finds his level in another organization. Is he a superstar? OK, he’ll probably end up with the Dodgers or Yankees. I don’t know that there’s necessarily something wrong with it, but it does make a difference.
I agree it’s different, but to say it’s not even remotely close is not exactly accurate. In the end, it’s the same result. Silas Redd was here for two years, should we have cheered for him too?
I don’t think any player that leaves is treasonous and disloyal, I just don’t get cheering for them and hoping they have Heisman worthy seasons. Franklin already gets all the “playing time” at a major university, so I wouldn’t understand him leaving.
The flip side is if a good young player is stuck on a bad team, should they have to stay there forever and never get a chance to compete for bigger things?
Nope, and that’s not what I’m saying. I’m just saying that it changes it for me as a fan. As I said, it’s not necessarily wrong but it does have an effect. For me at least. Baseball’s lack of a salary cap really hurts the game overall to me.
As an Islanders fan I will say that one reason that I live this group (aside from the fact that they’ve gone further in the playoffs in back to back years since the ‘83 and ‘84 seasons) is that the bulk of the group has been together for a long time. Just helps to identify with them more.
I just wish the players that are on a team that’s building and getting better wouldn’t bolt to make $8 million instead of $6 million….I mean, how many more millions do you really need? But if a good player is stuck with a franchise that won’t do what’s necessary to build, they need to get out. I also feel if a franchise isn’t doing what’s necessary to win and/or they aren’t supported by their city, they need to relocate and give another city a shot or the owner needs to sell.
I agree with all this. Baseball is a different thing altogether though because of the imbalance in money teams have to spend. It’s a shame when major league teams either have to hope to hit an absolute sweet spot for a season to make a run at a World Series before reverting back to being a feeder system for the big money teams.
When will these kids realize that transferring isn’t always the answer? He should’ve stayed at Baylor.
You really think Franklin would do that before Pribula and Allar sign on the dotted line? No chance.
I believe Marshall is being sarcastic. He gets frustrated with all the keyboard coaches on the board that think they know better than CJF.
No coach screws up like Franklin.So the Utes’ coach screwed up like Franklin did (twice)?
As you know, I always go to great pains to avoid creating controversy....but
, I detect a certain prevailing attitude that when Allar arrives PSU's troubles are over and he will be given the keys to the kingdom immediately. I have serious doubts that a freshman will be capable, I don't care who he is.....to jump from HS to a top performing QB in the Big Ten immediately. I thought "WE" were big on open competition? Currently Allar is rated the #7 QB by 247......good ole Sean Clifford was #8....should we expect a huge difference?Even if Alllar wins the QB job outright.....are PSU QB troubles over? How long will Pribula and CV stick around to play back up to a freshman?....and Roberson is already starting at another school, by the time that decision becomes public. Perhaps a portal QB, brought in to back up??? LOL
I'd be willing to wager that the coaching staff will be ready to insert a QB with a bit more experience and bring Allar and or Pribula along a bit more slowly than some seem to think.
For those who can actually read, I'm not anti Allar......just don't burden him with unrealistic fanboy fantasies....curb your enthusiasm.
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Imagine his screw ups if he didn't have the BWI CAC to guide him?
Allar’s high school coach is already communicating with Yurcich to get Drew working on skills he needs for their offense. There have been freshmen who’ve stepped right in and done well and anyone we go with (assuming Clifford leaves) will be green, so why not a freshman?As you know, I always go to great pains to avoid creating controversy....but
Even if Alllar wins the QB job outright.....are PSU QB troubles over? How long will Pribula and CV stick around to play back up to a freshman?....and Roberson is already starting at another school, by the time that decision becomes public. Perhaps a portal QB, brought in to back up??? LOL
I'd be willing to wager that the coaching staff will be ready to insert a QB with a bit more experience and bring Allar and or Pribula along a bit more slowly than some seem to think.
For those who can actually read, I'm not anti Allar......just don't burden him with unrealistic fanboy fantasies....curb your enthusiasm.
I just don't believe he'll be ready as a true freshman. I'm not about to dismiss Roberson who will have 3 plus years in the program.
Not saying it's impossible. Just not likely IMO.
The last thing the coaches should do if they think Allar is the future is start someone who has three years plus left to go unless he’s worlds better than Allar.
Compare their ratings instead of their rankings. Not suggesting Allar should start next season but he’s at .9612. Clifford ended up .9223. That would place him 13th in this class of QB’s.
Say what you want....ratings are okay....remember Hack? Check out his ratings. I don't see the unbridled enthusiasm for a freshman QB to come in and take over from day 1 and all PSU's offensive worries are over. I think with coaching and careful exposure to game snaps, Allar looks like a prospect that can give PSU two very good if not great years.
I would be more inclined to believe by next year at this time there will be at least one thread with a heading...."Allar is not the answer." LOL
No one has responded to my other point. If Allar comes in and is named #1 right off the bat....what other QBs are going to stay here?
Roberson-gone immediately
CV- gone asap
Pribula- give me one reason he would stay behind a fellow freshman?
Perhaps my point wasn’t clear. I even said I wasn’t suggesting Allar should start right away. My point was just that the comparison you made between Allar and Clifford isn’t as valid as you made it out to be.
And if Allar is not named QB1, he could leave too. The days of molding QB’s is over, if the good ones don’t play quickly, they’re gone. So if they name Roberson starter, do you think Allar or Pribula will stay? CV will be gone as well.
it was based on their ranking among QBs in their class. You are correct that Allar is 4 one hundredths higher rated than Cliff was. I don't see that as a huge difference.
Perhaps. But if you don't acknowledge that a freshman is more likely to apprentice behind a 4th year player than a 4th year player is to sit behind a freshman....we have nothing to discuss.
Allar and Pribula aren't here yet. Would you be surprised it Pribula looks elsewhere? I would not be.
Okay. Allar is 92 in his class overall. Clifford was 196 in his. He’d be 192 in this class. Both are considered blue chip.
You say 4 one hundredth as though the rating system goes from 0 to 1 — like it’s 4%. But that’s not how it works. It goes from something like .7800 to 1.000. So 4 one hundredth is more like 18%.
Again I’m not arguing Allar should start or even that he’ll be better than Clifford. I’m only saying your comparison of 7th vs 8th wasn’t valid. It wasn’t and you can spin it however you want. But maybe for once you should admit you aren’t always right.
Allar is coming, not sure about what Pribula is going to do. If it looks like Roberson is going to be the guy, I doubt he comes here.
How is it not valid when it is fact? Sean was the 8th rated QB in his class, Drew is currently 7th. Allar is rated higher than Cliff was. I just don't see that as a huge gap.
He's a red shirt junior I believe. My thought would be that his year(if it ever arrives) would be to fill the gap next year. I doubt, unless something unforeseen happens that he would be encouraged to return for year 5. But I can't attend practice, so i don't know what he is capable of.....and I don't know if we will see him get meaningful game snaps unless Cliff gets hurt....and none of us are hoping for that. I'm just speculating that if he is serviceable, he would be the guy to get PSU from Cliff to Allar (unless Allar walks on water and takes the reigns immediately0.
I think both '22 kids are enrolling in January. The length of time they stay, who knows. I'd say they both remain through '23 summer camp at a minimum.
I think it will be tough for either to beat out Roberson next year, but would not be unheard of. Looking at the night and day difference of '20 SC to '21 SC has to make you think "wow, this Yurcich guy can teach."
I just never understood Pribula coming.....I mean I do from the team and coaches perspective....they need a full QB room. But, Allar seems to be MY's guy. I guess with the portal, no decision is final or fatal like it used to be.
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