TMc, with our dominant WRs and TE is good enough that he would excel in any offense. Can only imagine the carnage he would leave in an I or pro set with SB back there, even with our OL!
I think this OL is more suited for a conventional blocking scheme. They aren't athletic enough for the scheme we are running. Square peg round hole.Do you think offensive line power is more or less important to the I or pro-set?
My rational exactly!I think this OL is more suited for a conventional blocking scheme. They aren't athletic enough for the scheme we are running. Square peg round hole.
So you want the defense to have even more guys in the box for our inept OL to deal with?TMc, with our dominant WRs and TE is good enough that he would excel in any offense. Can only imagine the carnage he would leave in an I or pro set with SB back there, even with our OL!
What!So you want the defense to have even more guys in the box for our inept OL to deal with?
The defense allows 100 on occasion.TMc, with our dominant WRs and TE is good enough that he would excel in any offense. Can only imagine the carnage he would leave in an I or pro set with SB back there, even with our OL!
I think this OL is more suited for a conventional blocking scheme. They aren't athletic enough for the scheme we are running. Square peg round hole.
Now i get it. It's the chairs they keep stumbling over.What, they don't run a 4.5 40? Other than Chaz Wright, slowed by his ankle, there is no shortage of OL athleticism in this group of predominantly young OL. How have you missed the musical chairs game that has plagued this unit?
Now i get it. It's the chairs they keep stumbling over.
Doesn't that include OSU and MSU?The objective is to win the game
So you want the defense to have even more guys in the box for our inept OL to deal with?
You can pass. I think it's even legal to pass to a running back. Dbs one on one with our wide receivers and tight end, linebacker on Barkley is a favorable match up.Finally, someone understands the concept. The more guys in the backfield means more defenders in the box. When you don't have to account for the flanked out offensive player, you drop the defender in the box. We are struggling to block the mostly six we see now. Hey, great idea, let's try to block 7 or 8. SMDH.
Barkley is typically covered by a LB now.You can pass. I think it's even legal to pass to a running back. Dbs one on one with our wide receivers and tight end, linebacker on Barkley is a favorable match up.
Thanks for stating the obvious. BTW you don't need a fullback to run a pro set.Barkley is typically covered by a LB now.
Finally, someone understands the concept. The more guys in the backfield means more defenders in the box. When you don't have to account for the flanked out offensive player, you drop the defender in the box. We are struggling to block the mostly six we see now. Hey, great idea, let's try to block 7 or 8. SMDH.
NSFW....so your saying that little" lets pull gesicki in tight" 12 times a game is different?? Jo mo's formations are doing the exact same thing you are railing against and now add 5 second handoffs 7 yards behind the LOS and walla ---awesome plan
the point is we are not spreading out wide enough so might as well go to an I formation anyway
the secondary point is and no one here wants to acknowledge is OSU and MSU dropped their guys down into the box anyway regardless of what we did. Where is the counter to that Jo Mo? Did it ever occur to just run a hurry up so:
a) they dont do that
b) put the defense on its heels even if the play net results zero?
I would rather have a zero net result versus a negative 5 every damn time.
but no we get to the line and spend 10 seconds looking at pictures then turn around and see the defense is in a different alignment then we thought ----oh shit now what ----- I know lets RPO and see what happens... NET RESULT #2 in negative yard plays
Doesn't that include OSU and MSU?
I’m pretty sure the goal of playing football on offense is to score points, right?Thanks for stating the obvious. BTW you don't need a fullback to run a pro set.
Net result is nearly 38 points per game.so your saying that little" lets pull gesicki in tight" 12 times a game is different?? Jo mo's formations are doing the exact same thing you are railing against and now add 5 second handoffs 7 yards behind the LOS and walla ---awesome plan
the point is we are not spreading out wide enough so might as well go to an I formation anyway
the secondary point is and no one here wants to acknowledge is OSU and MSU dropped their guys down into the box anyway regardless of what we did. Where is the counter to that Jo Mo? Did it ever occur to just run a hurry up so:
a) they dont do that
b) put the defense on its heels even if the play net results zero?
I would rather have a zero net result versus a negative 5 every damn time.
but no we get to the line and spend 10 seconds looking at pictures then turn around and see the defense is in a different alignment then we thought ----oh shit now what ----- I know lets RPO and see what happens... NET RESULT #2 in negative yard plays
Obviously!I’m pretty sure the goal of playing football on offense is to score points, right?
So you want the defense to have even more guys in the box for our inept OL to deal with?
We don’t see that. Our OL is getting whipped with 7 guys in the box.Is it possible to have more then 8-9 guys in box like we see?
The objective is to win the game
10-2 = very good year. Means the coaches are doing a good job.
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38ppg and 10-2 is great. We get it. That's not the argument.10-2 = bad year. Means the coaches are doing a good job.
But it is.38ppg and 10-2 is great. We get it. That's not the argument.
I’m pretty sure the goal of playing football on offense is to score points, right?
You are correct. That is not the argument. 10-2 compared to few years ago is outstanding. 10-2 with our expectations is mediocre. Still good, mind you, but with our level talent, the fans were expecting more. Not an unfair assumption on the fans' part38ppg and 10-2 is great. We get it. That's not the argument.
You are correct. That is not the argument. 10-2 compared to few years ago is outstanding. 10-2 with our expectations is mediocre. Still good, mind you, but with our level talent, the fans were expecting more. Not an unfair assumption on the fans' part
10-2 this year meets my expectations going into the season. My gripe is what could've and probably should've been.You are correct. That is not the argument. 10-2 compared to few years ago is outstanding. 10-2 with our expectations is mediocre. Still good, mind you, but with our level talent, the fans were expecting more. Not an unfair assumption on the fans' part
You over estimated the talent. Skill talent is there, trenches are still being built. Franklin is so far ahead of schedule that people think this team is Bama loaded, it's not.
My expectation for this team from the start of thevseason was 10-2 with loss to either OSU, Northwestern or Iowa. Unfortunately, the 2nd loss was within our division. I'm was never a believer that the RPO is an offense that can consistently run the ball as needed in this division and conference to keep us on top. Teams have figured out the achilles heal. The OL is still a work in progress, with no real useable depth beyond six players. Additionally, #88's blocking has been very dissappointing. When Bates went down and with Wright still hobbled, the options were limited. The two most experienced DEs are out and those remaing are either undersized or less experienced. All I would like to see is some 2 back sets and more utilization of outside runs or RBs as slot receivers. Overall, given the injury situation and lack of depth, a 10-2 finish along with a bowl victory (11-2) would be excellent.You are correct. That is not the argument. 10-2 compared to few years ago is outstanding. 10-2 with our expectations is mediocre. Still good, mind you, but with our level talent, the fans were expecting more. Not an unfair assumption on the fans' part
Help is on the way!!!I agree entirely. While I do wonder about the decision to keep Mahon at OG, it seems to me that there is confusion out there within the OL unit. Experience will get this worked out and more depth will eliminate all this shuffling around on the unit.
I'm more concerned about the defense. We need an upgrade on the interior line, and a major upgrade at LB. The D-ends just need to mature and the DB position is the best I've ever seen at PSU.
I understand that fans need to complain but PSU Football is in a pretty good place right now.