West Chester back to remote learning for the fall
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Does that mean fall sports for them is a no go as well? Isn't West Chester part of the State University system with schools like Shippensburg, Millersville, Kutztown, Bloomsburg, etc?
i wonder how many students are going to bail with remote learning only. A lot of money to pay for on line classes. And are university's going to start to really furlough and layoff in large numbers now as the economics just don't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
It's all about the loan. And immaturity *sorry*. If any sane person (sans STEM) could monetize that stupid loan, flushing it down the toilet would rank just below giving it to State U. I admit to learning next to nothing in 6 on and off years at PSU. I'm not alone.
The majority of K-12 schools just arent set up for this. Kids are really going to be left behind if that happens.
I don’t drink, not even since my school declared (in June) that all their fall classes would be online.
It's not nonsense. I can speak for my son who thought it was horrible. No interaction with the professors. He's at Susquehanna so he doesn't have the 500 person class. I have not talked to any of his friends or my friends with kids who think the online education is worth the money. I'm sure remote learning works great for those that don't have the time to attend class or someone who is anti-social. Our social skills as a society already suck and with remote work and learning it will only get worse.
You’re anti science, anti education. No wonder you have such ridiculous opinions. Regale us more with your high school equivalency.
who is blaming remote learning. but to pay full tuition to the tune of $25-$50K per semester for some online classes might not make much economic sense for many. Can do the same thing at the local junior or community college for literally pennies on the dollar. part of college is the experience of being in college, sitting in lecture halls, discussions, being with friends, partying, etc...that is all gone. So take a year off, take a gen ed class for a few hundred bucks at a community college where the credit transfers. find a job that makes some money and then go back to school in 2021 when hopefully this has passed and things are normal.
How is that a bad thing?
Everyone is different. However, embracing online learning would be beneficial because you still need to progress and earn credits toward the degree you will need to even land interviews and get the job which is the end goal. Yes, not interacting with other students and professors in person sucks. I do think higher learning needs to adjust their tuition fees for online learning because it is NOT the same as in person learning. Unfortunately, they are going to have to bite the bullet and adjust their fat cat budgets accordingly until things get back to normal or back to close as normal as possible. I do see these institutions having more layoffs unfortunately as it is the reality we are in presently.
Makes me appreciate even more the millions of health care workers, policemen, firemen, military, grocery store employees, and so many other essential personnel who suck it up every day and return to their jobs which makes all of our lives better ... thankfully, they don't have the same attitude as so many of the members of teachers unions.
I'm pro Penn College. Only it should cost less than half of what it costs. They provide fantastic, useful educations - but since PSU took over, the bloat and the costs have sort of ruined it. It isn't about working part time and getting some skills anymore. It's about signing that piece of paper. A kid from Hughesville shouldn't have to pay the same tuition (in the form of a loan) to learn welding as a kid from Grand Rapids pays to go to U of M to go pre-med. Sorry. I'm far from anti-science. If you had me shut down the colleges at PSU one by one, they'd be last on the list.
The professors love the deal they have. Especially tenured ones.
The only way to stop this is for students to bail... which will happen.
In the end a most degrees are mostly about the paper it is printed on.
If your resume says Harvard, you're getting an interview. Does not matter what you learned. (Yes, except in some areas like Engineering)
If it says Shippensburg the degree is mostly to get you past the requirement to have a 4 year degree (which companies are dropping)
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you are entitled to your opinion, and that is about all. but keep telling other people how to parent their kids. what is the saying, better to stay silent and have people think you are a fool then to open your mouth and confirm it. seems apropos for you.
He isn't telling you how to parent your child. He is telling you that if online schooling is such a inconvenience take time off until everything goes back to normal. Continuing complaining about it on a football board isn't doing anything.
My daughter is a para professional for special needs kids at a local high school. The conscientious is that the teachers and kids want to go back. If anyone feels they dont want to go back, they wont be forced.
My kid did remote learning in high school in the spring. It was total bullshit. Kids cheated right and left. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the profs and teachers and my wife is a life long educator. Essential workers have been on the front lines for months.
Like it or not, remote learning is the future- at least for many undergraduate level courses
If anything they deserve a raise for dealing with the way the average student is behaving during the online learning.
I keep reading about parents pulling their hair out trying to get their kids to complete their school work. Teachers have that times 100.
I would immediately transfer. You are losing out on the college experience. You can’t party with your friends, go to football games/events, college bars, house parties, etc. Sounds miserable to me.
They do deserve a raise for in-class work. But parents deserve a tax break if they have to home school again
Spoke with a parent tonight whose son plays football for East Stroudsburg, sounds like they’ve gotten the word they’re not playing.
Put the masks on and get back to the classroom. How many times have we heard “it’s for the kids”. Now it’s time to prove it.
I have a niece who goes to Maryland, she found out she will have one in person class. Her parents decided she is remote learning from home and not paying the room and board. Colleges are going to get nuked on the room and board, many people are not going to pay it and the colleges borrowed money to build them.
@Lyons212 So, question for you? If she has one in person class, but she is going to do remote leaning how is she going to attend that one class? or will she drop it? Does she live close enough to commute in for the one class?
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Financially, if they do not have significant in class offerings, some of these colleges may not survive. For example, why would someone pay room and board to live on campus to sit in their dorm room to take classes and they cannot go in another student's dorm room. Many students are not going to sign up for that, live at home and save 6K to 8K for the semester.
Then their is the other issue, some classes really cannot be done online. You cannot do labs, depending upon the major your classes require hands on instruction. Try something like Physical Therapy.
Same situation here. My daughter will be a senior in high school, in the spring all classes became pass/fail...my daughter and her friends did the work for one class and just traded amongst themselves. Family friend is a middle school math teacher, she had 130 students get the same question wrong with the same answer on one assignment.
There are definitely some teachers who do not want to go back, especially if they can get paid, I think the majority want to go back. The real problem is the school administrators, paranoia and the inability to think outside the box to deliver content. I took a survey from the school system and said, "what never heard of YouTube?" Maybe the problem is they do not want any content out there forever that could be incorrect. My daughter's physics teacher gave a different answer to the same question for two different students. Would love to have that lecture on YouTube.
I believe she has the option to take it remotely too. Worse case drop it, she is a Sophomore, can always add it in the Spring...major specific classes do not start until junior year.
Agree 1000 % ! We live in a Blue Ribbon school district and still remote learning this past Spring was a train wreck..
I think some mediocre private colleges, especially those with a lot of foreign engineering students, are going to have trouble surviving in the remote learning world. Students will seek out less expensive options and foreign students may not be able to return to the USA. Their tuition income will dry up in this remote learning world as there is less to differentiate them from other colleges which may be cheaper. Places like Widener, Lebanon Valley, Juniata, Albright, Lycoming, Rider, etc. may go out of business or merge with others colleges just to stay in business.
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Imo you are correct. Most of my daughters friends are are gap year or online from home most are psu students.
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I agree 100%. I'm 48 been teaching for 25 yrs. Wife is 46 has 23 yrs in. 3 kids two in college and one hs frosh. I'm so ready to go back been "quarantined" with the wife since March! The online deal is a joke for elem and he kids. I'm an ag teacher can't really teach welding, wiring, woodworking, horticultural, building cons, plumbing, or animal science online not to mention the FFA events and activities canceled already for this year. No FFA nat convention in Indy this year.
Time to suck it up buttercups.
Sorry for the rant.
No rant. Our online learning in the spring was not a good experience. I have a son who needs his senior year. He could easily get lost in the mix and needs the structure.
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