What a crap conference minus Clemson
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The top seven ACC programs are ranked for six position units. pitt has only one unit ranked in the top seven. Their DL unit is ranked sixth out of seven.
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Takes me back, speculate, what would the entire athletic future (all sports not just FB) have been had PSU joined the ACC instead of Big. How would wrestling and WVB been impacted?
As much as many people here hate the b1g and would rather see us in the ACC, the b1g is better for Penn State, both financially and athletically. Many programs would be in a lesser position in the ACC. I’m not sure even lacrosse would be better if we were in the ACC since the b1g is very competitive (and has Johns Hopkins).
Where would we be in hockey if we were in the ACC? Soccer might get a boost. Being in the ACC might force the administration to take basketball seriously, but I doubt it.
Penn State is better off in the b1g. Maybe the relationship will improve with the new commissioner. I’m not holding my breath, but anything is possible.
Honestly, I could have stopped at MONEY.
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Thanks for the reply, certainly agree on the $$$ factor, just annoys me how eagerly others were accepted into the conference.As much as many people here hate the b1g and would rather see us in the ACC, the b1g is better for Penn State, both financially and athletically. Many programs would be in a lesser position in the ACC. I’m not sure even lacrosse would be better if we were in the ACC since the b1g is very competitive (and has Johns Hopkins).
Where would we be in hockey if we were in the ACC? Soccer might get a boost. Being in the ACC might force the administration to take basketball seriously, but I doubt it.
Penn State is better off in the b1g. Maybe the relationship will improve with the new commissioner. I’m not holding my breath, but anything is possible.
Honestly, I could have stopped at MONEY.
Technically Florida St still has a higher ranked 4 year recruiting class average than Clemson next year although Clemson has almost entirely closed that gap. They will pass Florida St's 4 year recruiting class average for the 2020 season.
By the way, Penn St is likely to pass Michigan for the #2 B1G 4 year recruiting class average for the 2020 season. Still a ways to go but a decreasing gap with Ohio St.
By the way, Penn St is likely to pass Michigan for the #2 B1G 4 year recruiting class average for the 2020 season. Still a ways to go but a decreasing gap with Ohio St.
Put Notre Dame officially in the ACC with us and I think the money would be similar. ACC+Notre Dame+Penn St > B1G - Penn St for me.As much as many people here hate the b1g and would rather see us in the ACC, the b1g is better for Penn State, both financially and athletically. Many programs would be in a lesser position in the ACC. I’m not sure even lacrosse would be better if we were in the ACC since the b1g is very competitive (and has Johns Hopkins).
Where would we be in hockey if we were in the ACC? Soccer might get a boost. Being in the ACC might force the administration to take basketball seriously, but I doubt it.
Penn State is better off in the b1g. Maybe the relationship will improve with the new commissioner. I’m not holding my breath, but anything is possible.
Honestly, I could have stopped at MONEY.
Stick to something at which you're not very good as opposed to something in which you are totally clueless.
As a Pitt fan, it sucks not even getting excited for the season. Pitt administrators love Narduzzi because he’s a “great guy.” But the truth is that Narduzzi sucks. His recruiting sucks, his record sucks, his hires suck. Guys, I know you don’t care, but our high ends were HISTORICALLY bad last year. They missed on all their TE recruits AND KEPT Tim Salem, who also sucks.
The ACC is Clemson and everyone else. The worst thing that could happen is if Syracuse knocks them off in miracle fashion, or something fluky.
The ACC is Clemson and everyone else. The worst thing that could happen is if Syracuse knocks them off in miracle fashion, or something fluky.
That would be a major upset and even if it would happen, Clemson would still coast to win the Atlantic Div. and the conference.
That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say Narduzzi is a "great guy". He seems like a total lunatic on the field, and a sleazebag off. Given he was at MSU during the worst scandal in the history of college athletics, I don't know why any school would want him around.
Clemson is susceptible to fluky loses. It's happened 2 of the last 3 years.
I don't know you but I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't want to either. Someone holds a different opinion than you and this is your response? Bad day or are you really that miserable? Either way, I'm no longer interested in your thoughts. Please don't respond to any of my posts in the future.
Wont make a difference if they beat Clemson unless they beat them badly (even that would be a stretch at this point). Cant stand how they continue to get passes when they lose to "lesser" teams. Then you have the obvious PSU losing to OSU in a nail biter in 2016 yet was left out...
It also could be bitterness from living in Clemson territory as well, but can't stand the fans of that team...
Syracuse crushed them two years ago and had them on the ropes in final qtr laat year. I think they knocked Lawrence out of game late but backup threw some beautiful completions. I think one on 4th down that could have ended game as Syracuse would have wound down clock. Instead they scored and won. Tough loss
He does do a lot of community outreach and is great at kissing the right peoples a$$es. In regards to his sideline behavior, I have to agree. He’s out of control on the sideline, and it’s not a good look for Pitt. Listen, he isn’t the biggest issue at Pitt. An athletic department that willingly accepts 5-7, 6-6 teams year in and out, and a stadium that is 90% empty most weeks deserves what it gets.
No. it's been a perfectly good day. You're an idiot and I'll do whatever I want.
Soccer might get a boost if we didn’t have an outhouse, could take a shower, and didn’t hide in a bus during halftime.As much as many people here hate the b1g and would rather see us in the ACC, the b1g is better for Penn State, both financially and athletically. Many programs would be in a lesser position in the ACC. I’m not sure even lacrosse would be better if we were in the ACC since the b1g is very competitive (and has Johns Hopkins).
Where would we be in hockey if we were in the ACC? Soccer might get a boost. Being in the ACC might force the administration to take basketball seriously, but I doubt it.
Penn State is better off in the b1g. Maybe the relationship will improve with the new commissioner. I’m not holding my breath, but anything is possible.
Honestly, I could have stopped at MONEY.
ACC is crap all their teams did was win the National Championships in football and basketball. Really the only 2 college sports than mean anything.
His biggest problem is he can’t recruit worth a lick which also goes back to his personality.
Got to translate all these 4-star recruits into wins on the field. I looked at Clemson's 2020 class. Sick! Five 5-stars. Sick!
Are you sure you are a Pitt fan? I never seen/heard one who actually makes some sense
The original post was about football. Currently in football, the ACC is clemson and a pile of shit. The ACC being good in basketball is nothing new. We all know that. Of course, pitt sucks in basketball too.
Please take this opportunity to remember that pitt is a basketball school.
One great team doesn’t make a conference good (and I’m talking football, everyone knows the ACC is good in basketball). I guess a couple years ago the West Coast Conference was the second best basketball conference in the country because Gonzaga got to the championship game and had they won that game, it would have been the best conference in all of the land.
Is that a home game for xcuse?There will be some growing into positions going on .Esp defensive line for clemsonWho knows maybe they will be ripe for the taking
The last 2 MSU games really hurt. PSU should have won both of those games. It's easy to second guess coaching, but coaching didn't cause the weather delay in 2017. Coaching didn't drop the game ending INT in 2018. But even national championship teams can lose inexplicable games to vastly inferior team. Who was that terrible team, that most people didn't even know still had a FBS team, that Clemson lost to in 2016?
It can't be excused after two times. It's a scarlet letter for Franklin (who I love overall). It's a big ol' shit sandwich that still sticking to my teeth and I'm angry and embarrassed about it.
They deserved to get their asses beat last year. I will DESPISE them forever after the last two years, and for all the fun they had while we were on punishment. They are second-rate, generic, RAPE FACTORY hypocrite trash. They should absolutely not be able to even hold our jockstraps, but if one of them comes on here, I have nothing to say.
The ACC has always been a shit football conference after their top team. Florida State has had a great program, but given their results over the past two years it appears that Clemson has displaced FSU as the ACC's one nationally relevant team. This year the ACC had two--count 'em, two--teams in the final AP Top 25. The SEC had six, if I recall correctly, including four of the top ten, and the Big Ten had 5. Even the Mountain West had more ranked teams (3) than the ACC.
Yes, but the question I answered was the implications of PSU joining the ACC rather than the Big Ten so my hypothetical starting point was 1990, the year PSU joined the Big Ten and not 2001, the last year of SU wrestling. There's a chance that PSU joining the ACC in '90 instead of the Big Ten could have resulted in other eastern football independents like Syracuse abandoning Big East basketball and seeking to join the ACC as well. I don't see any particular advantage beyond proximity for Syracuse in playing Villanova, Georgetown and UConn over playing Maryland, Duke, NC State and UNC.
You're stretching it. For your logic to hold, PSU joining the Big Ten should have caused Syracuse to seek membership in the Big Ten. Didn't happen.
